Dublin third costliest EU capital for tourists after Monaco and Reykjavik

Idbatterim

Well kids, more fantastic news! Now be sure to keep the extra E1.50 a week the "coalition" of snakes will toss back at us peasants in budget 19 and spend it wisely. (€1.50 a week usc € equivalent was given back to workers on €30,000 a year last year) Dont dare question the economy stupid and ask why living standards for many are dropping, when the economy is "booming" If your feeling in any way negative and question things, maybe "go and commit suicide" as Bertie Ahern once so eloquently put it. All is good, dont doubt the governments desire to serve you and look after your best interests...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/travel-site-ranks-europes-capitals-according-to-expense-and-dublin-comes-near-the-top-872978.html

Cina

Having been to Rome, Copenhagen, Paris, and Vienna, I can categorically assure you that Dublin is not more expensive than them. I also find it incredibly difficult to fathom that it could be more expensive than the Nordic capitals too.
It seems like a load of nonsense.

Idbatterim wrote: »

Well kids, more fantastic news! Now be sure to keep the extra E1.50 a week the "coalition" of snakes will toss back at us peasants in budget 19 and spend it wisely. (€1.50 a week usc € equivalent was given back to workers on €30,000 a year last year) Dont dare question the economy stupid and ask why living standards for many are dropping, when the economy is "booming" If your feeling in any way negative and question things, maybe "go and commit suicide" as Bertie Ahern once so eloquently put it. All is good, dont doubt the governments desire to serve you and look after your best interests...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/travel-site-ranks-europes-capitals-according-to-expense-and-dublin-comes-near-the-top-872978.html

Living standards in Ireland have pretty much never been higher. As economies grow, their capital cities become more expensive. It's a way of life and has always been. This is typical "woe is on us" nonsense as is per the norm on boards, moaning about one of the best countries to live in in the world.

TallGlass

Expect a sharp risings in the cost of items with excise on fuel due to increase at end of month with the budget. Its amazing how the energy regulator keeps on giving the go ahead for price increases on energy. Yet it's nearly the most expensive in Europe.

Donald Trump

How is your geography OP?

ednwireland

high wages, high cost of housing, high cost of everything else, all means everything is expensive hence if you go to a country and everything is cheap look at the annual average wages it'll pretty much tell you why, especially eating out and hotels as people are paid at the bottom end.

ive been in poland the last two years on holiday and eating and going out is crazy cheap and food is prepared generally in the premises makes foodie ireland look very poor in comparison (main cities, warsaw and samll towns)

unfortunately dont think theres much going back and the next hike in public sector wages isnt going to allow for tax cuts of any form any time soon

funnily enough fuel was about the same price

mariaalice

These are the richest countries in the world per capita.
Qatar ($124,930) The small Middle Eastern country often ranks as one of the richest countries in the world per capita.
Luxembourg ($109,190) ...
Singapore ($90,530) ...
Brunei ($76,740) ...
Ireland ($72,630) ...
Norway ($70,590) ...
Kuwait ($69,670) ...
United Arab Emirates ($68,250) ..

http://fortune.com/2017/11/17/richest-country-in-the-world/

Cina

mariaalice wrote: »

These are the richest countries in the world per capita.
Qatar ($124,930) The small Middle Eastern country often ranks as one of the richest countries in the world per capita.
Luxembourg ($109,190) ...
Singapore ($90,530) ...
Brunei ($76,740) ...
Ireland ($72,630) ...
Norway ($70,590) ...
Kuwait ($69,670) ...
United Arab Emirates ($68,250) ..

http://fortune.com/2017/11/17/richest-country-in-the-world/

In fairness, GDP per capita is an incredibly misleading stat that shouldn't really be used to measure the average salary in a country, especially somewhere like Ireland where it's massively distorted by the big US companies moving their products through here. The average salary here is closer to €45,000 I believe.

The Bishop Basher

I wish I could find it now but I read a news item yesterday quoting a minister stating how certain changes were only made in light of the recession but now that we’re in full recovery yada yada yada..

Why am I still paying so much tax then?

JohnnyFlash

Below average ranting from the OP.

lawred2

Metrics used

lawred2

It's a travel site for cheapskate backpackers

Cry me a river

rossie1977

Cina wrote: »

Having been to Rome, Copenhagen, Paris, and Vienna, I can categorically assure you that Dublin is not more expensive than them. I also find it incredibly difficult to fathom that it could be more expensive than the Nordic capitals too.
It seems like a load of nonsense.
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I was in Vienna in July and it's cheaper for accommodation, cheaper for grocery shopping and cheaper for public transport than Dublin.

Geuze

In central Paris 50cl of beer is often 8.00 or more, so 8.80 or more per pint.

BUT

they have happy hours.

If you know where to go, you can pay 3.50 / 4.00 / 4.50 for 50cl until maybe 10pm.

Rhyme

Depends on how they applied their metrics really. An actual mid-range restaurant would be eye-wateringly expensive in Reykjavik*, in Dublin, not so much.


*source: had my eyes water looking at menus in restaurants in a few different places in Reykjavik. Toddled back to the cruise ship and ate there for free.

Under His Eye

Map is a load of bollox.

I had to declare bankruptcy after a weekend in Oslo.

JeffKenna

I agree OP... Time to burn Dublin to the ground.

ThunbergsAreGo

Under His Eye wrote: »

Map is a load of bollox.

I had to declare bankruptcy after a weekend in Oslo.

Yup anything that puts Dublin ahead of Oslo in price, is flawed

A crazily expensive city

Assetbacked

Putting a Swiss city as cheaper than Dublin is also flawed. Quite simply, one could not enjoy a holiday in the normal way without balking at the price of everything. Even in a basic cafe, for a coffee and sandwich it would cost an arm and a leg.

DEFTLEFTHAND

That map is a guide for backpackers and students.

For people on a shoestring budget.

lawred2

Museums are largely free in Dublin as well unless it's the Storehouse or some stupid Paddywhackery nonsense like the Leprechaun museum.

And to be honest, if you go there with everything else Dublin has to offer, I'm glad to see you fleeced.

Berserker

Under His Eye wrote: »

Map is a load of bollox.

I had to declare bankruptcy after a weekend in Oslo.

Depends what you are spending your money on. If you spent the weekend drinking, it'd cost you a fortune. If you went sightseeing and dining then it'd definitely be cheaper than Dublin. Dublin is disgracefully expensive for tourists. My in-laws who live in Vancouver couldn't get over how expensive the attractions were in Dublin.

rossie1977 wrote: »

I was in Vienna in July and it's cheaper for accommodation, cheaper for grocery shopping and cheaper for public transport than Dublin.

Yep and Copenhagen was cheaper and better value from a tourist's perspective, according to my in-laws.

Assetbacked wrote: »

Putting a Swiss city as cheaper than Dublin is also flawed. Quite simply, one could not enjoy a holiday in the normal way without balking at the price of everything. Even in a basic cafe, for a coffee and sandwich it would cost an arm and a leg.

Nope, I go to Basel & Zurich for work. For €15 I'll get a really good meal (main & non-alcoholic drink) on a street cafe. Last Friday I paid that for a p1ss poor attempt at a philly cheese steak & Coke near the IFSC.

buried

Went through the city centre last week on a bus to the airport, all I could see was bewildered auld tourists with a "what in the fook am I paying such outlandish prices such as my 300 euro a night hotel bedroom for this wollix". And they right. Dublin would want to wind it's neck in. Just because the likes of Google and Facebook got their european tax dodge HQ up the docks doesnt automatically make the town Paris or some $hit. Cop on.

lawred2

buried wrote: »

Went through the city centre last week on a bus to the airport, all I could see was bewildered auld tourists with a "what in the fook am I paying such outlandish prices such as my 300 euro a night hotel bedroom for this wollix". And they right. Dublin would want to wind it's neck in. Just because the likes of Google and Facebook got their european tax dodge HQ up the docks doesnt automatically make the town Paris or some $hit. Cop on.

you saw all that from the window of your bus?

impressive

lawred2

Berserker wrote: »

Depends what you are spending your money on. If you spent the weekend drinking, it'd cost you a fortune. If you went sightseeing and dining then it'd definitely be cheaper than Dublin. Dublin is disgracefully expensive for tourists. My in-laws who live in Vancouver couldn't get over how expensive the attractions were in Dublin.



Yep and Copenhagen was cheaper and better value from a tourist's perspective, according to my in-laws.



Nope, I go to Basel & Zurich for work. For €15 I'll get a really good meal (main & non-alcoholic drink) on a street cafe. Last Friday I paid that for a p1ss poor attempt at a philly cheese steak & Coke near the IFSC.

I could easily find quite a few places in Dublin City Centre where I could eat a decent main for €15.

Just because you didn't manage to do so doesn't mean a whole lot

Annasopra

Monaco and Reykjavik are not in the EU

pickarooney

I brought someone to Ireland for the first time to weeks ago. She was interested in going to visit Dublin and asked what was worth seeing. I genuinely couldn't think of one thing, and I lived there for 8 years.

lawred2

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Monaco and Reykjavik are not in the EU

I don't think the article claimed that they were. That might just have been the OP.

buried

lawred2 wrote: »

you saw all that from the window of your bus?

impressive

Yeah. Plenty of it to go around too. Look out for it yourself. You cant miss it. Wasn't exactly impressive though, more depressing, because that's how the tourists looked. And who can blame em?

Berserker

lawred2 wrote: »

I could easily find quite a few places in Dublin City Centre where I could eat a decent main for €15.

Just because you didn't manage to do so doesn't mean a whole lot

Worked in the city centre for years and I was constantly underwhelmed. Give me a few examples.

Agent Smith

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Monaco and Reykjavik are not in the EU

Berserker

pickarooney wrote: »

I brought someone to Ireland for the first time to weeks ago. She was interested in going to visit Dublin and asked what was worth seeing. I genuinely couldn't think of one thing, and I lived there for 8 years.

There are plenty of touristy things to do in terms of history & culture but the cost is the problem. A tour of the leprechaun museum will set you back €20 per person, which is ridiculous. That's a good example of the cost of things. Some of the museums are free.

humberklog

Berserker wrote: »

There are plenty of touristy things to do in terms of history & culture but the cost is the problem. A tour of the leprechaun museum will set you back €20 per person, which is ridiculous. That's a good example of the cost of things. Some of the museums are free.

Oh come off it FFS, using the Leprechaun Museum as a good example for the costs of things in the city?

buried

Yeah this is the thing, I used to love going to Dublin, go to gigs, shows, but in the last couple of years the prices of everything, especially hotel rooms is just absolutely ridiculous. Dublin is just a big town. That's it. 300 quid a night hotel rooms in a Irish summer for a big town? Cop on because nobody is going to be buying it real soon. And where that going to leave the situation? F**ked, that's where. I've stopped going, stopped going to things I actually want to see. You think tourists who are just curious to see the town are going to think different?

BeerWolf

Dublin Airport; €7 for a pathetic roll with feck all filling at the "Upper Crust" in arrivals.

Fleecing tourists from the get-go.

Franz Von Peppercorn

pickarooney wrote: »

I brought someone to Ireland for the first time to weeks ago. She was interested in going to visit Dublin and asked what was worth seeing. I genuinely couldn't think of one thing, and I lived there for 8 years.

To weeks ago what?

Of course there’s lots to see in Dublin. Hence the high prices. We do need more hotels though.

Franz Von Peppercorn

buried wrote: »

Yeah this is the thing, I used to love going to Dublin, go to gigs, shows, but in the last couple of years the prices of everything, especially hotel rooms is just absolutely ridiculous. Dublin is just a big town. That's it. 300 quid a night hotel rooms in a Irish summer for a big town? Cop on because nobody is going to be buying it real soon. And where that going to leave the situation? F**ked, that's where. I've stopped going, stopped going to things I actually want to see. You think tourists who are just curious to see the town are going to think different?

And yet they are paying. If they weren’t they wouldn’t be and the prices would be lower.

Not defending the prices though - we need about ten new hotels.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Berserker wrote: »

Worked in the city centre for years and I was constantly underwhelmed. Give me a few examples.

Pretty much any lunch in Dublin is < 15.

lawred2

Berserker wrote: »

Worked in the city centre for years and I was constantly underwhelmed. Give me a few examples.

What a pointless exercise that would be..

murpho999

BeerWolf wrote: »

Dublin Airport; €7 for a pathetic roll with feck all filling at the "Upper Crust" in arrivals.

Fleecing tourists from the get-go.

Why are you comparing prices based on an airport? Every airport in the world rips people off.

Dublin is expensive for somethings but cheaper than others,.

Public transport is definitely cheaper here than most North European countries.
Clothing is also keenly priced.

Food and drink could be argued but was in Holland recently, which was always cheaper than here and it's gone way expensive. A pint of beer there is more expensive than here.

Nordic countries are also way more expensive than here.

OscarMIlde

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Berserker wrote: »

Worked in the city centre for years and I was constantly underwhelmed. Give me a few examples.

Pretty much any lunch in Dublin is < 15.

Express lunch in Saba is 13:95 for two courses. Lovely food, decent portions and great service.

buried

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

And yet they are paying. If they weren’t they wouldn’t be and the prices would be lower.

Not defending the prices though - we need about ten new hotels.

They won't be paying for much longer Franz. I bought a ticket to a gig I really wanted to see in Dublin last July, tried book one room for two nights cheapest I could get was 320 for both nights. In Dublin. Where I've being going all my life and the town is still the same way it was when I could get a room for 80 quid. A few new cobblestones on O'Connell street isn't going to cut the reason for the ridiculous price hike. These tourists getting gouged are just going to tell their friends and then you'll see nobody coming at all.

Loves_lorries

lawred2 wrote: »

Metrics used

Moscow should be far higher up expensive list.

murpho999

Berserker wrote: »

Depends what you are spending your money on. If you spent the weekend drinking, it'd cost you a fortune. If you went sightseeing and dining then it'd definitely be cheaper than Dublin. Dublin is disgracefully expensive for tourists. My in-laws who live in Vancouver couldn't get over how expensive the attractions were in Dublin.

Most museums and art galleries are free.

Vancouver is not exactly cheap either.

Yep and Copenhagen was cheaper and better value from a tourist's perspective, according to my in-laws.

Any real evidence rather than in law annecdotes?


Nope, I go to Basel & Zurich for work. For €15 I'll get a really good meal (main & non-alcoholic drink) on a street cafe. Last Friday I paid that for a p1ss poor attempt at a philly cheese steak & Coke near the IFSC.[/QUOTE]

You can plenty of good meals for around €15 in Dublin, just go looking around.

IFSC is not exactly a good comparison to whatever a "street cafe" is.

Idbatterim

food here I find quite reasonable. Transport is expensive and crap. Taxis expensive. Drink expensive. Accommodation a joke. Art galleries and museums free in generally...

Idbatterim

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Monaco and Reykjavik are not in the EU

right, so Dublin according to the article, is then the most expensive eu capital.

It's obviously the hotel prices that are affecting it most.

But mid range restaurant food probably also. Very expensive to eat anything fancier than a Bunsen burger in Dublin in the evening and the quality is lacking. Very poor price value ratio.

Also wish we had Ubers here. Taxis too expensive.

Idbatterim

buried wrote: »

They won't be paying for much longer Franz. I bought a ticket to a gig I really wanted to see in Dublin last July, tried book one room for two nights cheapest I could get was 320 for both nights. In Dublin. Where I've being going all my life and the town is still the same way it was when I could get a room for 80 quid. A few new cobblestones on O'Connell street isn't going to cut the reason for the ridiculous price hike. These tourists getting gouged are just going to tell their friends and then you'll see nobody coming at all.

at least with the new spoons on abbey street and not long after camden street, there will be two centrally located boozers that will offer drink at reasonable prices. I was in the dun laoire one the other day and they were selling a glass of wine for E1.95!

Franz Von Peppercorn

buried wrote: »

They won't be paying for much longer Franz. I bought a ticket to a gig I really wanted to see in Dublin last July, tried book one room for two nights cheapest I could get was 320 for both nights. In Dublin. Where I've being going all my life and the town is still the same way it was when I could get a room for 80 quid. A few new cobblestones on O'Connell street isn't going to cut the reason for the ridiculous price hike. These tourists getting gouged are just going to tell their friends and then you'll see nobody coming at all.

An anecdote is not a statistic. The prices are high because demand is high and supply is low. Prices will fall though but because of supply.

buried

glasso wrote: »

It's obviously the hotel prices that are affecting it most.

But mid range restaurant food probably also. Very expensive to eat anything fancier than a Bunsen burger in Dublin in the evening and the quality is lacking. Very poor price value ratio.

Also wish we had Ubers here. Taxis too expensive.

I actually never minded the taxi prices. I'd tip those guys over the odds because they are actual people trying to survive day to day. The hotel prices really yank my f**king underpants up my arse. The same building I stayed in last year, a building that's been there for countless years is 200+% more expensive this year?? That's a scam. Nothing else.

rossie1977

Rhyme wrote: »

Depends on how they applied their metrics really. An actual mid-range restaurant would be eye-wateringly expensive in Reykjavik*, in Dublin, not so much.


*source: had my eyes water looking at menus in restaurants in a few different places in Reykjavik. Toddled back to the cruise ship and ate there for free.

Yes it is insanely expensive. Travel blogger Gabriel Morris went around looking at prices of food in the city. Even fast food is ridiculous

buried

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

An anecdote is not a statistic. The prices are high because demand is high and supply is low. Prices will fall though but because of supply.

Prices will fall because nobody will go. I'm proof of it. Probably better off, at least I can go to gigs and shows I've paid for before getting fleeced to sleep in a bed beside a river and nothing else.