Garda savagely attacked by youths

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Another example of people in Irish society who have no fear or respect for the law of the land. Until scumbags start getting proper sentences these type of instances will happen. Wheter it's a Guard, a rural farmer or innocent person just walking down the street these situations seem to be becoming more common in part due to lack of fear of actual punishment from the courts.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-suffers-severe-facial-injuries-after-savage-teen-assault-37382547.html

Atlantic Dawn

Tazers and body cams badly needed.

Dr Brown

The public should to be armed.

We need a 2nd amendment.

Jimmy.

Six no hopers bred from other no hopers just to get a free council house.

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Jimmy. wrote: »

Six no hopers bred from other no hopers just to get a free council house.

A forever home?

Jimmy.

questionmark? wrote: »

A forever home?

And the trimmings.

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Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Tazers and body cams badly needed.

Body cams especially. They would a least already be caught. Boggles the mind why they aren't already in place for all Guards. Protects both sides.

ah they just need a cuddle and more of my taxes spent on them

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Jimmy. wrote: »

And the trimmings.

80 convictions without a prison sentence and your picture in the local rag?

endacl

Dr Brown wrote: »

We need a 2nd amendment.

Done. In 1941.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1941/ca/2/schedule/enacted/en/html#sched

NasserShammaz

Not to worry judge martin "****#n suspended sentence cockroach Nolan will be along to hand down a severe punishment ie. Run along you little scamp.

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[Deleted User] wrote: »

ah they just need a cuddle and more of my taxes spent on them

Dont forget Paul Murphy and John Connors standing up for them.

Gatling

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Tazers and body cams badly needed.

Not good enough ,

All Garda should be given specialist firearm training and every guard should be issued a 9mm firearm

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NasserShammaz wrote: »

Not to worry judge martin "****#n suspended sentence cockroach Nolan will be along to hand down a severe punishment ie. Run along you little scamp.

Sure he had a hard up bringing don't you have any heart!!!

Doctors room ghost

Time has come to be sending in the army with rubber bullets and blast the scum from the streets.

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Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Time has come to be sending in the army with rubber bullets and blast the scum from the streets.

Very PC with only your rubber bullets

NasserShammaz

Whoever was the last judge to give any of these vermin a suspended sentence should have them released into their homes with their kids and partners and the doors should be sealed shut for a minimum of 2 hours.

LuckyLloyd

questionmark? wrote: »

Another example of people in Irish society who have no fear or respect for the law of the land. Until scumbags start getting proper sentences these type of instances will happen. Wheter it's a Guard, a rural farmer or innocent person just walking down the street these situations seem to be becoming more common in part due to lack of fear of actual punishment from the courts.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-suffers-severe-facial-injuries-after-savage-teen-assault-37382547.html

Any stats to back that assertion up?

Irish Praetorian

Dr Brown wrote: »

The public should to be armed.

We need a 2nd amendment.

Yeah nothing screams good idea like these same 'individuals' being able to arm themselves well - for protection of course...

Doctors room ghost

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Very PC with only your rubber bullets

Rubber bullets as a trial. If it fails I’ll have no issues with swapping up to the old leaded kind.full auto.pull the trigger and keep her pulled.double time on sundays and bank holidays.bonuses added for multiple scum fatalities

listermint

They'll know exactly who these little scrotes are.

Hastle them off the streets everyday see how they get on with their business then.

LuckyLloyd

Gatling wrote: »

Not good enough ,

All Garda should be given specialist firearm training and every guard should be issued a 9mm firearm

Would you have wanted the Gardai to shoot them in this scenario?

Larbre34

I shouldn't worry, all the fellas that attacked the Guard have done is to bring the heat upon themselves, I expect they will all get a free spin in the back of a van over the next few weeks during which they'll wish they hadn't been born.

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

Not good enough ,

All Garda should be given specialist firearm training and every guard should be issued a 9mm firearm

Not without a body cam. The Irish equivalent of a 'black man shot while running away' type policing is not welcome in this state thank you very much.

Doctors room ghost

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Would you have wanted the Gardai to shoot them in this scenario?

Most definitely. If they physically assault an officer in the states it would be pop pop pop.only a statistic.one less good for nothing scummer around

NasserShammaz

Larbre34 wrote: »

I shouldn't worry, all the fellas that attacked the Guard have done is to bring the heat upon themselves, I expect they will all get a free spin in the back of a van over the next few weeks during which they'll wish they hadn't been born.

Sniper rifle 1000 rounds immunity from prosecution and a action man please Santa

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LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Any stats to back that assertion up?

Why don't you have a little look through this amazing search tool called Google see if you find anything recently about scumbag behaviour.

I'll help you out with the first one https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/crime-rate-increases-significantly-over-past-year-1.3443096%3fmode=amp

jon1981

Worrying, if they'll do this to a garda, ill feel sorry for any unfortunate civilian that happens "look at them funny".

Jimmy.

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Worrying, if they'll do this to a garda, ill feel sorry for any unfortunate civilian that happens "look at them funny".

They don’t know any different, their iq is so low that you have to dig for it.

Danzy

If that isn't treated as a direct assault on the country and the writ of law then it is a clear encouragement to others.

It is way more serious than the drug dealing or if they robbed a bank.

NasserShammaz

If only we repealed the 8th 20yrs ago, should abortion be more readily available my arse it should be bloody mandatory for large swathes of society

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Danzy wrote: »

If that isn't treated as a direct assault on the country and the writ of law then it is a clear encouragement to others.

It is way more serious than the drug dealing or if they robbed a bank.

Very true. An assault on a Guard is an assault on the authority of the State which in turn is all of us.

Danzy

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Would you have wanted the Gardai to shoot them in this scenario?

In this case it would have been justified and by that I mean shoot till they are down and stay down.

The rule of law either exists or it doesn't.

I'm no great fan of the Guards, the force is shocking in its incompetence and corruption but there is either law or not.

Kermit.de.frog

While in the city on Dame Street today I witnessed a fist fight between 3 guys in the open, broad daylight. Not a garda to be seen.


(bit embarrassed because tourists were looking at this spectacle as well)


If we refuse to have what I would regard as a proper police force up to normal western standards - and the fact we subsidise scumbags to the extent we do - what do we expect?

There is no real punishment.

BTW I regard this story as an attempted murder.

LuckyLloyd

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Why don't you have a little look through this amazing search tool called Google see if you find anything recently about scumbag behaviour.

I'll help you out with the first one https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/crime-rate-increases-significantly-over-past-year-1.3443096%3fmode=amp

From your article:

The Central Statistics Office (CSO) has also cautioned that it is releasing the figures for last year “under reservation”. That warning is unprecedented.

Twelve months ago the CSO stopped publishing any new crime data because problems emerged with the homicide figures.

It has now agreed to recommence publication but with the warning that it is not satisfied with how crime is being recorded on the Garda’s computerised Pulse database. It is from Pulse that the CSO gets raw crime data for compiling into the State’s official quarterly and annual crime statistics.

Senior CSO statistician Olive Loughnane said while her agency had agreed to begin publishing crime data again, it was not satisfied with the raw data it has been given by the Garda.

“Pulse data is now subject to a number of separate ongoing quality reviews and does not currently meet the CSO’s standards for completeness and accuracy,” she said.

Whether crime rises or falls, the hysteria about us going to hell in a hand cart seldom abates.

Gatling

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Would you have wanted the Gardai to shoot them in this scenario?

In self defense yes

LuckyLloyd

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Most definitely. If they physically assault an officer in the states it would be pop pop pop.only a statistic.one less good for nothing scummer around

How's that working out for cops in the States?

Danzy wrote: »

In this case it would have been justified and by that I mean shoot till they are down and stay down.

The rule of law either exists or it doesn't.

I'm no great fan of the Guards, the force is shocking in its incompetence and corruption but there is either law or not.

So if a Gardai is being physically assaulted the appropriate reaction is to shoot to kill? And we'd trust the current Garda force to make that call?

Franz Von Peppercorn

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

From your article:



Whether crime rises or falls, the hysteria about us going to hell in a hand cart seldom abates.

The CSO thinks that crime is under reported by the gardai.

Anyway a black policeman was attacked by whites. Where’s the ideology of white privilege when you need it.

If this cop was armed and shot back I don’t think anybody would be too upset.

Kermit.de.frog

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Whether crime rises or falls, the hysteria about us going to hell in a hand cart seldom abates.

Do gooders become less do goody when they are the victims of random scumbags.

Your mindset would be altered quick fast if/when you get beaten to within an inch of your life. Happens ALL THE TIME in Dublin.

If you don't believe that please share with us the impressive structural arrangements of the bubble you appear to inhabit.

Gatling

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

So if a Gardai is being physically assaulted the appropriate reaction is to shoot to kill? And we'd trust the current Garda force to make that call?

So who would get to make the call ,

Hang in there lads hold off with the beating till I ring my super,then ombudsman,the union rep and likely independent legal counsel to see if I can defend myself from assault .

Danzy

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

How's that working out for cops in the States?



So if a Gardai is being physically assaulted the appropriate reaction is to shoot to kill? And we'd trust the current Garda force to make that call?

As I said earlier I have little faith in the force but in this circumstance it would have been appropriate.

For me when it is non political it changes it. Others will obviously disagree on that.

The ****s that did this care for nothing.

Grayson

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Would you have wanted the Gardai to shoot them in this scenario?

To be fair his name is gatling so you'd imagine a preference for is firearms. when your name is gatling, everything is a target

Danzy

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Do gooders become less do goody when they are the victims of random scumbags.

Your mindset would be altered quick fast if/when you get beaten to within an inch of your life. Happens ALL THE TIME in Dublin.

If you don't believe that please share with us the impressive structural arrangements of the bubble you appear to inhabit.

The Progressive tend to live on the nice side of the tracks.

It is one of the key reasons the left today is in freefall across much if Europe. It is becoming a niche middle class movement, has become.

A different topic though.

Grayson

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

While in the city on Dame Street today I witnessed a fist fight between 3 guys in the open, broad daylight. Not a garda to be seen.


(bit embarrassed because tourists were looking at this spectacle as well)


If we refuse to have what I would regard as a proper police force up to normal western standards - and the fact we subsidise scumbags to the extent we do - what do we expect?

There is no real punishment.

BTW I regard this story as an attempted murder.

We have a police force that's up to western standards.
gardai aren't like some sort of magic genies, there is such a thing a response time. You can't expect to have them show up magically. Did you call them and wait to see how long they take to turn up?

Also most gardai don't want firearms. If they have them they'll need them. When cops don't have guns most criminals don't need them either. that's why we have so few firearms offences.

Grayson

Danzy wrote: »

I'm no great fan of the Guards, the force is shocking in its incompetence and corruption but there is either law or not.

So you think they're incompetent and corrupt and your solution is to give them guns.

Kermit.de.frog

Grayson wrote: »

We have a police force that's up to western standards.

#deluded

Did you giggle while writing that??

NasserShammaz

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Would you have wanted the Gardai to shoot them in this scenario?

I'd do it on a jobbridge and wouldn't miss a wink. The only possible use for such animals would be organ harvesting, some parts could be used to improve the quality of life for real people, the rest I would incinerate not use as swine food as it would contaminate the food chain and make difficult to sell

LeBash

It would be nice for an articulate person to write a nice letter to show the whole nations concern about the crime and lack of punishment, post it somewhere and a campaign to get everyone to send it to local TDs and the minister for justice.

I live in the north inner city and while I've never been in any trouble I have seen plenty of assault, intimidation, stealing and more. I've had my home burgled twice and my car damaged 3 times. I don't even have the worst stories from the area.

I do have a pain in the bollox getting up, going to work and coming home to pissed or drugged up slackers hanging around area who get nicer holidays than me every year.

Gatling

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair his name is gatling so you'd imagine a preference for is firearms. when your name is gatling, everything is a target

Lol quick off the mark .

Gatling

Grayson wrote: »

When cops don't have guns most criminals don't need them either. that's why we have so few firearms offences.

neither of these statements are true ,

Danzy

Grayson wrote: »

So you think they're incompetent and corrupt and your solution is to give them guns.

I did not say they should all have guns, whether they are either good or bad. Why you felt the need to think that is all an issue for you.

Armed police forces should be avoided. In this case though it would have been appropriate to have killed the attackers. The next person may not be so lucky with these attackers.

The attackers didn't care that the force needs systemic reform or that 30 years ago they would be recruits.