Star Wars: The Mandalorian [** Spoilers **] [Disney+] (US Pace)

Stop moaning ffs

€32???? Thats mad.

I was hoping they’d get the sphero company to make him like the bb8 droid. Just have him walking around the room looking around. Could be easily done

Agent Coulson

Tony EH wrote: »

If I promise my wife a Christmas baby, do you think she'll be upset if I walk through the door with a plush Yoda.

A near 7 month wait for the release on the 30th of May 2020 and when they all sell out on the first day you it might be quicker to have a real baby.

Venom

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

€32???? Thats mad.

I was hoping they’d get the sphero company to make him like the bb8 droid. Just have him walking around the room looking around. Could be easily done

That's not even taking into account the inflated price these will be due to high demand. If you look on Amazon UK for the Mandalorian Pop Vinyl figures, the price is 3-4 times the cost of other Pop's in the same series such as IG11, Cara and the alien dude Nolte played.

Stop moaning ffs

Venom wrote: »

That's not even taking into account the inflated price these will be due to high demand. If you look on Amazon UK for the Mandalorian Pop Vinyl figures, the price is 3-4 times the cost of other Pop's in the same series such as IG11, Cara and the alien dude Nolte played.

But I thought they’d dropped the ball?

Sure I saw that a few posts back

Venom

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

But I thought they’d dropped the ball?

Sure I saw that a few posts back

They dropped the ball with regard to Baby Yoda merch which would of make them an absolute killing this Christmas. The fact those products are going to be months away until they get released, creates a risk people will have moved onto the next fad by then.

Agent Coulson

Venom wrote: »

They dropped the ball with regard to Baby Yoda merch which would of make them an absolute killing this Christmas. The fact those products are going to be months away until they get released, creates a risk people will have moved onto the next fad by then.

Very surprised Disney didn't have Baby Yoda ready to go.

On the other hand if they had Baby Yoda being made in advance the surprise would have leaked out months ago so I guess they chose the surprise over the quick dollar.

Stop moaning ffs

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Very surprised Disney didn't have Baby Yoda ready to go.

On the other hand if they had Baby Yoda being made in advance the surprise would have leaked out months ago so I guess they chose the surprise over the quick dollar.

I explained this to that poster just above. He’s chosen to ignore it because it outlines he’s not one idea what he’s talking about.

Venom

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Very surprised Disney didn't have Baby Yoda ready to go.

On the other hand if they had Baby Yoda being made in advance the surprise would have leaked out months ago so I guess they chose the surprise over the quick dollar.

I totally get the possibility of holding merch back to avoid leaks and spoil the reveal but were talking about Disney here who are such an entertainment juggernaut I just don't believe they couldn't have found some way to do it in-house. And lets be honest the way marketing works these days, 90% of leaks are just another way of getting products to the attention of consumers.

Agent Coulson

Venom wrote: »

I totally get the possibility of holding merch back to avoid leaks and spoil the reveal but were talking about Disney here who are such an entertainment juggernaut I just don't believe they couldn't have found some way to do it in-house. And lets be honest the way marketing works these days, 90% of leaks are just another way of getting products to the attention of consumers.

That is a very fair point.

Stop moaning ffs

Venom wrote: »

I totally get the possibility of holding merch back to avoid leaks and spoil the reveal but were talking about Disney here who are such an entertainment juggernaut I just don't believe they couldn't have found some way to do it in-house. And lets be honest the way marketing works these days, 90% of leaks are just another way of getting products to the attention of consumers.

‘In house’

Majority if not all of Disney products are made in China / Far East.

Majority of the pirating of products also comes cones same.
They held it to stop leaks. This isn’t hard to grasp.
How is this hard to grasp?

It’s a new streaming service currently only available in four countries in the whole world.

You haven’t the first clue mate

Venom

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

‘In house’

Majority if not all of Disney products are made in China / Far East.

Majority of the pirating of products also comes cones same.
They held it to stop leaks. This isn’t hard to grasp.
How is this hard to grasp?

It’s a new streaming service currently only available in four countries in the whole world.

You haven’t the first clue mate

Disney are a $130 billion company, they could easily contract out to a non China based company to get select merch made in time for the show with NDA's in place if they were so worried about leaks. What part of "I totally get the possibility of holding merch back to avoid leaks and spoil the reveal" don't you comprehend? I'm just saying it could have been done if they really wanted to, even at a higher cost to the consumer which we both know would have been paid. Disney+ only being available in four countries is irrelevant due to things such as computers, the internet and torrent sites which I'm pretty sure at least one person working in Disney knows about, so not expecting Baby Yoda to be a kinda big deal would be rather clueless of them.

Standman

Not particularly a fan of Star Wars. Thought this was just another cynical cash grab and was prepared to hate it. I really like it, pleasantly surprised.

Foxtrol

Venom wrote: »

Disney are a $130 billion company, they could easily contract out to a non China based company to get select merch made in time for the show with NDA's in place if they were so worried about leaks. What part of "I totally get the possibility of holding merch back to avoid leaks and spoil the reveal" don't you comprehend? I'm just saying it could have been done if they really wanted to, even at a higher cost to the consumer which we both know would have been paid. Disney+ only being available in four countries is irrelevant due to things such as computers, the internet and torrent sites which I'm pretty sure at least one person working in Disney knows about, so not expecting Baby Yoda to be a kinda big deal would be rather clueless of them.

Yes, if they really really really wanted to they 'could' have paid Jon Favreau enough to make Baby Yoda merch at home in his basement to avoid leaks.

This is the same sort of argument that was being made that Disney were clueless for releasing Disney+ in limited countries initially, as they 'could' have waited until logistics and licenses were ready in all markets. Disney+ then in only one day got 25% more registered users than expectations were for them to have by the end of 2019 and their stock price has rocketed.

The fact that they 'could' have taken the risk that no leak would happen from whatever large scale toy manufacturer they chose does not mean not making the toys was an oversight or them dropping the ball. It was clearly a calculated decision to limit the risk that the biggest twist and likely viral content of their tent-pole original series for their new platform would be ruined. The risk simply wasn't worth it for them and given that Baby Yoda will likely survive into season 2 they'll likely still get plenty of merch sales.

Stop moaning ffs

Brilliant

https://twitter.com/pedropascal1/status/1201936789579022336?s=21

Wibbs

leggo wrote: »

I’m going to ignore the meme attempting to dunk on me and derail the topic for enjoying a widely enjoyed movie, because it probably came from a place of insecurity and I’ll leave that to yourself to deal with.

Ah man...:D. When anyone comes back with the insecurity guff it's always good for an obvious laugh.

I’m not saying you’re wrong and ‘should’ enjoy TLJ. I’m just saying that the sticks you’re using to beat it with were specifically crafted to do so. This is the problem when fans take ownership of something that, ultimately, isn’t theirs and the word ‘should’ starts to come into discussions. It’s not an honest critique of the material, it’s fundamentally flawed because the critique has no interest in weighing up the merits of what they were trying to achieve and instead weighing it up against how fans wanted it to be.

Afraid not. 1) I was a "fan" of Star Wars when I was a kid. 2) I grew up. 3) That is not to say I don't enjoy it any more, I do, but am not nearly so invested in the wider franchise as actual fans generally are(which is 100% fair enough) and who tend to give it both more positive and more negative energy depending on their expectations(and extremely divisively at the moment. That's a current thing in general though) . That's more what I mean about standalone. In the sense of not being particularly invested one way or the other. On that basis I found it a very weak film with pretty obvious failings throughout. The odd tone shifts, the space chase, the largely pointless subplot in space casino and so forth. On the other hand I thought the production design fantastic and the hyperspace bombing run a wow moment, but story and plotting? Nope.

The Mandalorian I'm liking. Regardless of the backstory. Though obviously baby Yoda hits in the Awww feels. But he would even if this was a new universe. It hits pretty much all the points of an "old fashioned" story, a space western and all that. It's well paced and plotted and the characters are understandable in their actions and consequences of same. I found Rogue One good and actually, for all the brickbats it received I enjoyed the Solo flic too. The main events? From the cynical near plot point by plot point flashily dressed up copy of the first one that was TFA to the awkward mess that was TLJ not nearly so much.

I would predict that the better films and TV and stories will come from the wider story universe rather than the main event and that looks to have played out already(though I've not watched them I gather the various animated series were well received and well made?). I suspect because less of both fan and studio expectation and influence will give their producers much more of a carte blanche to just tell half decent, even good stories. The Mandalorian a good example.

Wibbs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Brilliant

https://twitter.com/pedropascal1/status/1201936789579022336?s=21

:D

1800_Ladladlad

Wibbs wrote: »

:D

Look at your mans thread on twitter there's a few funny ones added

Stop moaning ffs

Some clarification for the eternally confused

https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1202686864852803584?s=21

pixelburp

I love how the conversation has just steered straight into merchandise. It's like with any Star Wars discussion, it's never that far away; lurking in the bushes, waiting for ones nostalgic moment of weakness, then WHAM! FunkoPop landfill as far as the eye can see.



So has there been any kind of rumblings about further live-action TV shows? I'd love to see something more ensemble based, more characters with more arcs to explore. You could do a class warfare show so easily on Coruscant, just requires the will.

Wibbs

pixelburp wrote: »

I love how the conversation has just steered straight into merchandise. It's like with any Star Wars discussion, it's never that far away; lurking in the bushes, waiting for ones nostalgic moment of weakness, then WHAM! FunkoPop landfill as far as the eye can see.

True enough P, though in financial terms and in industry outlook Star Wars completely changed the rules around merchandise. It even changed the game around financing as Lucas' merch money co funded the first two sequels. I'm old enough to remember Jaws and the impact it had and like me and every kid I knew had the shark posters and rubber sharks made in Hong Kong, none of which went into Spielberg's or the studio's pocket. It hadn't occurred to anyone really that there was both money and extra fan tie ins and loyalty that could be harnessed through selling toys and merchandise. That the studios left that to Lucas tells us how blind to it they were and how clever and far thinking Lucas was at the time.

Though they were all caught out by the sheer scale of it. For all the talk of the baby yoda not being out yet, back in 77 the rush for the toys that christmas was so crazy the toy companies had to give out vouchers as IOU's for toys yet to be made. Mad. What's madder is that I wanted a Star Wars poster and they had some cool ones in Easons in Dublin, but I'd spent my pocket money on lego and comics. A friend's dad who worked in a cinema(I think the Savoy) gave me one of the actual cinema posters and I was all grateful, but because it wasn't a "real poster" like you'd get in Easons and wasn't so cool looking to me then, I folded it up and shoved it in a drawer. Yup. Then posters of bands and tennis playing lassies scratching their bums took over, so it remained there. Though I have it framed on the wall now.

The only other toys I got were a die cast Falcon and Han Solo's blaster, though TBH I liked that because it was based on my favourite pistol. Took two D batteries IIRC to make the pew pew sounds.

Agent Coulson

Ming-Na gets younger and younger looking she defies aging at 56.

pixelburp

Ming-Na Wen is an alien, or a Highlander; it's the only explanation for being 56 and still looking amazing. I'm 39 and already feel like I've aged horribly in the last year

Varik

EP5

Disappointing that Wen might be 1 and done, also makes me less sure we'll see Carano again.

I don't get the need for a plastic little yoda statue but sure each to their own

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't get the need for a plastic little yoda statue but sure each to their own

Oh I'd be the same P, but selling the merchandise and toys is a huge part of the financial side of the franchise and all such franchises. Like I said earlier Star Wars invented that.

Bandana boy

I was buying my 7 year old Nephews xmas presents during the week , and he is a big star wars fan.

He has not seen mandalorian yet and I thought a baby yoda would be a cool gift and was very surprised there is just none out there .

it being Disney I can not believe it was an over sight but rather keeping the twist in the show under wraps.
I applaud that , not often we can say Disney put the quality of the viewers experience ahead of merchandising opportunities.

Bandana boy

Bandana boy wrote: »

I was buying my 7 year old Nephews xmas presents during the week , and he is a big star wars fan.

He has not seen mandalorian yet and I thought a baby yoda would be a cool gift and was very surprised there is just none out there .

it being Disney I can not believe it was an over sight but rather keeping the twist in the show under wraps.
I applaud that , not often we can say Disney put the quality of the viewers experience ahead of merchandising opportunities.

By out there, you mean in bricks and mortar shops?

Agent Coulson

Even more surprising since they are waiting till May to sell Baby Yoda they chose the end of May as the release day and not May 4th which is Star Wars Day.

The powers that be have gotten quicker at uploading this week

Bandana boy

Deleted User wrote: »

By out there, you mean in bricks and mortar shops?

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