Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?

freshpopcorn

There is a family living in a caravan/mobile in a picnic area outside Fermoy. They are due to be evicted Today. They have no where to go and can't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel due to one of the kids ADHD.
If it was allowed would you allow a family similar to this move into your garden/driveway until they got sorted?
Same would go for all families living in a small hotel room. Would you allow them live on your driveway in caravan/mobile home until a social house became available?
Now the family would never be required to enter your house.
I don't know if you'd get paid.
I personally don't think I would feel comfortable doing this.
Sewage would be one of my concerns and you could get landed with any type of family.

Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?


Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?

elperello

Not allowed under Planning Act.

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

There is a family living in a caravan/mobile in a picnic area outside Fermoy. They are due to be evicted Today. They have no where to go and can't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel due to one of the kids ADHD.
If it was allowed would you allow a family similar to this move into your garden/driveway until they got sorted?
Same would go for all families living in a small hotel room. Would you allow them live on your driveway in caravan/mobile home until a social house became available?
Now the family would never be required to enter your house.
I don't know if you'd get paid.
I personally don't think I would feel comfortable doing this.
Sewage would be one of my concerns and you could get landed with any type of family.

Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?


Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?

if i knew them very well, there's a chance i would.

id need to know how come they couldnt possibly meet their own housing need, and they r plans to get that solved.

freshpopcorn

elperello wrote: »

Not allowed under Planning Act.

If it was allowed.
I think I said it in the post.

uncommon_name

It totally depends on the family and their circumstances.
No if they don't deserve it.
Yes if they do deserve it.

elperello

freshpopcorn wrote: »

If it was allowed.
I think I said it in the post.

I thought you were seeking clarification.
Bear in mind that anyone replying saying they would allow the family now know that it is an empty gesture.

uncommon_name

I think you would also have to be allowed to choose who gets to live there. You don't want some scumbag that doesn't care about anyone except herself as your life would be made hell for trying to be nice.

freshpopcorn

uncommon_name wrote: »

I think you would also have to be allowed to choose who gets to live there. You don't want some scumbag that doesn't care about anyone except herself as your life would be made hell for trying to be nice.

I suppose the laws would be similar to those who you can refuse to rent a house to.

uncommon_name

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I suppose the laws would be similar to those who you can refuse to rent a house to.

Yes, they probably would.
Then I think people would find it hard to let random people live on the property which they live on. You never know what kind of person you would get.

freshpopcorn

uncommon_name wrote: »

Yes, they probably would.
Then I think people would find it hard to let random people live on the property which they live on. You never know what kind of person you would get.

Yes, plenty of landlords do various checks and still end up with nightmare tenants.

KungPao

No chance.

_Brian

Nope.
We pay plenty of direct taxes from two wages and then a host of secondary taxes from our already heavily taxed wages. To me we’ve done our part.

Maybe those getting essentially free houses from the government should be compelled to have mobiles or temporary housing put in their gardens.

It is within the governments ability and affordability to solve this crisis, this is a crisis of lack of interest and understanding on their behalf.

Friend said there are rumours that a nationwide rent control being brought in, insearched online and couldn’t find any word.

D3V!L

Not a f*cking chance

Gatling

I know several estates in tallaght where local authorities leases say no caravan or mobile homes allowed to put on the property ,
Doesn't stop hundreds doing It anyway

raze_them_all_

No. I pay a **** ton of money in rent, taxes and everything else. I do my part

bloodless_coup

There was talk of a ship to house the homeless. Not a bad idea, as long as someone cuts the moorings and it floats off into the Atlantic never to be seen again.

Super-Rush

Build trailer parks, problem solved.

No I don't mean halting sites either.

Paddy Cow

_Brian wrote: »

Nope.
We pay plenty of direct taxes from two wages and then a host of secondary taxes from our already heavily taxed wages. To me we’ve done our part.

Maybe those getting essentially free houses from the government should be compelled to have mobiles or temporary housing put in their gardens.

It is within the governments ability and affordability to solve this crisis, this is a crisis of lack of interest and understanding on their behalf.

Friend said there are rumours that a nationwide rent control being brought in, insearched online and couldn’t find any word.

Is a huge part of the problem. When landlords can't up the rent, they simply give the tenants notice they are going to sell. Tenant moves out, landlord hikes up the rent and puts it back on the market. Or they use the property for Air BnB.

ZX7R

They won't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel because there child ADSD

But it's better for the child to be in a caravan???
Statements like this make me wonder about the parents intentions in cases like this..

Wheeliebin30

ZX7R wrote: »

They won't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel because there child ADSD

But it's better for the child to be in a caravan???
Statements like this make me wonder about the parents intentions in cases like this..

ADHD is the new gluten intolerant.

Trendy.

freshpopcorn

ZX7R wrote: »

They won't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel because there child ADSD

But it's better for the child to be in a caravan???
Statements like this make me wonder about the parents intentions in cases like this..

I think in a hotel they'd annoy other guests!

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Nope

Cookie_Monster

Not a ****ing chance.

Also how have they nowhere to go, they have a caravan don't they?

freshpopcorn

This is the story I am refereeing to!
Te family in question have a decent size mobile home!



https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/we-have-nowhere-to-go--time-ticking-for-family-handed-eviction-notice-from-caravan-873015.html

GreeBo

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think in a hotel they'd annoy other guests!

Have you been to many hotels that have a no ADHD policy?

ZX7R

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think in a hotel they'd annoy other guests!

Most hotels have sound proofing in walls etc

In a lot of these cases ,I find they use the poor child as leaverage a gain's to a means

dxhound2005

There must be thousands of vacant houses in Cork. Use one of them.

homerjay2005

elperello wrote: »

Not allowed under Planning Act.

eh? i know a family who are currently living in such circumstances. its not illegal at all to the best of my knowledge.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

ADHD is the new gluten intolerant.

Trendy.

One of the founders Dr Kevin Connor wrote that vast amounts of children are being misdiagnosed with the condition. It has become a racket for pharmaceutical companies. Can you imganie making coin through drugging boisterous kids.

Worringly another founder of the diagnosis Dr Leon Eiseberg began stating that it's a fictitious disease' shortly before his death in 2009..

dxhound2005

homerjay2005 wrote: »

eh? i know a family who are currently living in such circumstances. its not illegal at all to the best of my knowledge.

Not illegal to store a caravan on a site. But planning permission is needed for it to be used as a living space, and to be connected to services.

ZX7R

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

ADHD is the new gluten intolerant.

Trendy.

To be fair ADHD diagnosis is less than 1% in children aged 4years to 12years
Would believe more easy to get diagnosed as an adult.
Definitely gets thrown around too easy this days.

decky1

what a great question,---with all those out shouting 'help the homeless they need homes , would they take a person into their home to keep them off the street? iI think not, maybe a few do care but when it would come to the pinch i can't see them doing it, we have 2 very large Priest's houses in our town [sorry i don't know how many priests are in the town] but for sure no more than 2 per house why would they not give up some rooms to the homeless and do God's will to help the poor, No sir they're not having any of it.

Donald Trump

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Sewage would be one of my concerns and you could get landed with any type of family.

I have it on good authority that one solution is to shite in da bucket






Or, it's newer version, and if you happen to have one handy, shite in the bus

elperello

homerjay2005 wrote: »

eh? i know a family who are currently living in such circumstances. its not illegal at all to the best of my knowledge.

Useful article here -

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/if-i-buy-a-plot-of-land-do-i-need-planning-permission-for-a-caravan-1.3507296

Ah, nooooo.

yes I would have a homeless family live on my property, on the understanding that the occupants would have no addiction problems and have had no criminal record. If a family were in genuine need of a place to stay and they were decent people, then I would be happy to have them stay on my property until such a time that they found something more suitable.

There would be a couple of conditions.

They would have to be garda vetted.

No pets.

Separate utility bills.

raze_them_all_

Deleted User wrote: »

yes I would have a homeless family live on my property, on the understanding that the occupants would have no addiction problems and have had no criminal record. If a family were in genuine need of a place to stay and they were decent people, then I would be happy to have them stay on my property until such a time that they found something more suitable.

There would be a couple of conditions.

They would have to be garda vetted.

No pets.

Separate utility bills.

So if someone has a criminal record from 25 years ago **** em. But a person homeless 2 days can get a spot. A bit judgemental no

raze_them_all_

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

So if someone has a criminal record from 25 years ago **** em. But a person homeless 2 days can get a spot. A bit judgemental no

Yeah, it seems they can get a spot if they meet his requirements (which I agree with). His property, his rules.

DEFTLEFTHAND

decky1 wrote: »

what a great question,---with all those out shouting 'help the homeless they need homes , would they take a person into their home to keep them off the street? iI think not, maybe a few do care but when it would come to the pinch i can't see them doing it, we have 2 very large Priest's houses in our town [sorry i don't know how many priests are in the town] but for sure no more than 2 per house why would they not give up some rooms to the homeless and do God's will to help the poor, No sir they're not having any of it.

You could set an eg and offer a room or even a coach to a homeless person, this could start a movement in the town. Priests and all could become involved.

Graces7

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think in a hotel they'd annoy other guests!

Yes, the poster above was very quick to blame the family :eek:

Graces7

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You could set an eg and offer a room or even a coach to a homeless person, this could start a movement in the town. Priests and all could become involved.

easier to put all the priests in one house and let homeless folk use the other... but then empty church houses etc could house all the homeless but it does not happen that way sadly

average_runner

Graces7 wrote: »

easier to put all the priests in one house and let homeless folk use the other... but then empty church houses etc could house all the homeless but it does not happen that way sadly

So now we are saying people cant live in a house on their own?

I would have no interest in housing anyone I do not have facilities for. If I had a septic tank that they could somehow link their housing solution into and I had water supplies that were compatible with linking up to them - I might consider it. But I have no way to offer them such facilities at this time - so I would not consider it.

I do however have a small spare house on my land and have been known to house people in need in it on occasion. Most notably a brother and sister orphan duo where the sister was postponing college to work to make ends meet to help the brother finish the leaving and get into college. Not having to pay rent and some facilities made a significant difference to their lives. And lovely people they were too. Friends for life now I think.

So certainly open to helping the homeless and people in similar need - but not in a throw the doors open and let anyone in any situation just land in and hope for the best.

garv123

ZX7R wrote: »

They won't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel because there child ADSD

But it's better for the child to be in a caravan???
Statements like this make me wonder about the parents intentions in cases like this..

Every child has ADHD (self diagnosed by lazy parents) these days, or else some other form of emotional difficulty.

Mountainsandh

ZX7R wrote: »

They won't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel because there child ADSD

But it's better for the child to be in a caravan???
Statements like this make me wonder about the parents intentions in cases like this..

This.
The excuses for not taking on what is on offer are many and varied. In my area 4 spanking new houses built for purpose (as part of a bigger estate close to the town centre) were refused by families "on the list" for whatever fanciful reasons.
Cut the BS.

OP no I wouldn't. Like others, I feel I am contributing well into the pot to help these people out. There has to be a semblance of fairness here; they are not entitled to my property, and I don't have to suffer the inconvenience.

If there had been an earthquake or a hurricane, and all other accommodation was unavailable, then I would consider it on a very temporary basis.

edit : oh, and reading the article it concludes with a quote from Cllr McCarthy saying

I will help them if they do the right thing. John is a nice lad that deserves to be looked after.

I'm a really nice lady, and I deserve to be looked after too, but I ain't getting nothin' .

fxotoole

freshpopcorn wrote: »

There is a family living in a caravan/mobile in a picnic area outside Fermoy. They are due to be evicted Today. They have no where to go and can't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel due to one of the kids ADHD.
If it was allowed would you allow a family similar to this move into your garden/driveway until they got sorted?
Same would go for all families living in a small hotel room. Would you allow them live on your driveway in caravan/mobile home until a social house became available?
Now the family would never be required to enter your house.
I don't know if you'd get paid.
I personally don't think I would feel comfortable doing this.
Sewage would be one of my concerns and you could get landed with any type of family.

Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?


Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?

No. Force the Catholic Church to allow homeless sleep in the abundance of properties that they are sitting on.

PlaneSpeeking

Not in a million f**king years.

Graces7

average_runner wrote: »

So now we are saying people cant live in a house on their own?

no one said that!

iamwhoiam

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/former-irish-soldier-homeless-living-13362599

if this girl asked me I would consider it .


She said: “I’ve never tried to live off the country and would love to work seven days a week if I could.

“I do horticultural work when it is available but I am taxed and I can’t afford to rent a home so I feel trapped.

PlaneSpeeking

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/former-irish-soldier-homeless-living-13362599

if this girl asked me I would consider it .

Another charming poster girl.

"Because I'm taxed I can't afford a home".

So the "free everything now" crowd are angling for no taxes on the rare as hen's teeth occasions they work ????

Perfect.

Fr_Dougal

freshpopcorn wrote: »

There is a family living in a caravan/mobile in a picnic area outside Fermoy. They are due to be evicted Today. They have no where to go and can't accept emergency accommodation in a hotel due to one of the kids ADHD.
If it was allowed would you allow a family similar to this move into your garden/driveway until they got sorted?
Same would go for all families living in a small hotel room. Would you allow them live on your driveway in caravan/mobile home until a social house became available?
Now the family would never be required to enter your house.
I don't know if you'd get paid.
I personally don't think I would feel comfortable doing this.
Sewage would be one of my concerns and you could get landed with any type of family.

Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?


Would you allow a homeless family live in a mobile home/caravan on your property?

I wouldn’t allow that family, because the husband is a scumbag with a list of convictions as long as your arm. Others, if they were in genuine need, I’d consider it.