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Best defensive boxers of all time

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    #32
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,135 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Well, when Roy’s reflexes slowed and he aged we all know what happened. He took a sh1tload of shots, and several knocked him out...his D (when trapped and stationary) consisted of standing straight up with a high guard and hoping not to get tagged clean. And we know it did not work all that well. Look at the fights. And it’s not like he was a shell of a fighter. He was still very good in some of these fights.

    Exact same for Ali...only Ali had a rock solid beard.

    Reflexes and speed are parts of defense...nobody said otherwise.

    When I think of great defenders neither Ali or Jones figure..not saying they could not defend. They absolutely could.

    Oh, and by reflexes I don’t think anyone means just reflexes. It’s reflexes related to professional boxers...not reflexes all on its own, that one could apply to any person.


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    #33
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,639 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Another vote for Toney here.

    It's one thing to retreat to the ropes and cover up, it's another to let punches slide by you by a whisker and still be ready to throw a sweet left hand counter.

    Incredible judgement of distance and speed, and an ability to never be quite where his opponent wanted him to be.


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    #34
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,042 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    megadodge wrote: »
    Some of the usual nonsense being spouted here in order to make one particular overrated, fat, loudmouth from the 1990s be considered the best ever in at least one aspect of boxing!

    I can't believe you're talking about James Toney in this way :p


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    #35
    The Dagestani Eagle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭The Dagestani Eagle


    willie pep


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    #36
    megadodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,357 ✭✭✭megadodge


    The Dagestani Eagle wrote: »
    willie pep


    But, but, but.... Willie Pep was perpetual motion! He never stayed in one spot, constantly moving on his brilliant feet - and as we all know, that's not 'real' defense! :rolleyes:


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