2019 PDC World Darts Championship (inc. schedule of play in OP)

bassy

Healio wrote: »

If he gets in, let alone his fellow pro's, I'll be on strike as well.

i bet you he will because its hes swansong last year and ever popular with the fans lol

Ultimate Seduction

Barney's a certainty to be in it, probably why he announced his retirement so far out. Most likely instead of Whitlock

Mvg
Cross
Wright
Ando
Price
Smith
Suljovic
Gurney
Wade
Barney

Thats probably it. Wade won 2 TV tournaments so will most likely be in .

Degag

SlickRic wrote: »

This is it.

Nobody beats MVG's best.

Nobody.

People can talk about peak Taylor all they like. Yes, he had the mind games. Yes, he'd pull every trick possible.

But he doesn't beat a 109 average at over 60% on doubles over 6 sets.

While i cant really disagree with you cause what i saw from MVG last night is up there with the best darts i've ever seen i think it's slightly unfair on Taylor. He never had the same level of oposition for the majority of his career that MVG currently has so never really had to raise it to the standards MVG has had to.


But - he was certainly capable of huge averages back in the day - in the 2001 World Final he averaged 107 and i think i remember reading somewhere was 87.5% on doubles.

Degag

Healio wrote: »

Current Top 10 http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/Rankings.aspx:

Rank Player Country Prize
1 Michael van Gerwen Netherlands +£1,203,500
2 Rob Cross England £785,750
3 Peter Wright Scotland £677,500
4 Gary Anderson Scotland +£580,000
5 Daryl Gurney Northern Ireland £539,250
6 Michael Smith England +£405,500
7 Gerwyn Price Wales £404,750
8 Mensur Suljovic Austria £389,750
9 Simon Whitlock Australia £350,750
10 James Wade England £341,000


Uh-oh!!!

Smith would go No. 2 in the world if he wins so by my reckoning.


My reckoning being that the above includes his winnings up to the semi-final stage - - i.e. 100k and the extra 400k would put him ahead of Cross.

Will I Am Not

Degag wrote: »

Smith would go No. 2 in the world if he wins so by my reckoning.


My reckoning being that the above includes his winnings up to the semi-final stage - - i.e. 100k and the extra 400k would put him ahead of Cross.

The prize money doesn’t stack?

Ultimate Seduction

Degag wrote: »

Smith would go No. 2 in the world if he wins so by my reckoning.


My reckoning being that the above includes his winnings up to the semi-final stage - - i.e. 100k and the extra 400k would put him ahead of Cross.

Hell also lose whatever he won at 2017 world champs ? Cross the only player not defending money as he didn't play in 2017

Degag

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Hell also lose whatever he won at 2017 world champs ? Cross the only player not defending money as he didn't play in 2017

Oh perhaps. I presumed that the 2017 money was already removed.

Ultimate Seduction

Degag wrote: »

Oh perhaps. I presumed that the 2017 money was already removed.

Its not removed yet but you're right, smith would go 2 if he wins. Here's a good chart of what the rankings will look like . few different scenario's as its from 2 days ago.

Degag

Degag wrote: »

While i cant really disagree with you cause what i saw from MVG last night is up there with the best darts i've ever seen i think it's slightly unfair on Taylor. He never had the same level of oposition for the majority of his career that MVG currently has so never really had to raise it to the standards MVG has had to.

But - he was certainly capable of huge averages back in the day - in the 2001 World Final he averaged 107 and i think i remember reading somewhere was 87.5% on doubles.

He’ll have to win a lot more, and for many years to come, to match Taylor’s achievements.

It’s possible that MvG has more talent, but it’s a bit like saying Rodgers is a more talented quarterback than Brady. Brady is the GOAT for many not just because of his talent, which he undoubtedly has, but in addition factors like his relentless strive for success, his focus, his longetivity etc.

ArmaniJeanss

This tournament being over 4x the money of other tournaments really skews the rankings.
Aspinall's semi-final place here gives him more points than someone who gets to the semi-finals of The Matchplay, Grand Prix, Grand Slam and UK Open.

They really should 'weight' each tournament like other sports to do rather than just adding up the money.

dave699

MVG is been pushed harder than Taylor ever was. Its made him a better player than Taylor but is also why he will not win as much as Taylor did.
Never really liked Taylor but he was some man to stay on top for so long. These young lads don't care about playing the likes of mvg. Most people were beat before the game with taylor

Ultimate Seduction

Its harder hit those ridiculous averages when your not under any pressure to do so. Taylor could keep it going leg on leg too. Mvg has busts of 5 or 6 legs . Can't stand Taylor but theres no denying what he did. It'd be like mvg averaging 120 most games now

marklazarcovic

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Its harder hit those ridiculous averages when your not under any pressure to do so. Taylor could keep it going leg on leg too. Mvg has busts of 5 or 6 legs . Can't stand Taylor but theres no denying what he did. It'd be like mvg averaging 120 most games now

I'd imagine it's the opposite,easier to hit them when your relaxed under little pressure,like practice

munster87

The highest averages usually seem to be hit when both players are playing well, pushing each other on basically.

PTH2009

my league picks

top 4
1 MVG
2 Rob Cross
3 Peter Wright
4 Gary Anderson

5 Daryl Gurney
6 Gerwyn Price
7 Michael Smith
8 RVB
9 James Wade
10 Dave Chisnall

dave699

Hope wade misses out

bassy

dave699 wrote: »

Hope wade misses out

me to,but i bet he will be in.

PTH2009

bassy wrote: »

me to,but i bet he will be in.

Winning a title prob unofficially gets u in

He's marketable 'the darts baddie' etc

Went to it Dublin night the last few years giving it a rest this year

Healio

marklazarcovic wrote: »

I'd imagine it's the opposite,easier to hit them when your relaxed under little pressure,like practice

I remarked in the pub three sets in of MVG v Joyce, that MVG looked phyiscally bored, he knew he'd get through it with 16/17/18 dart legs.

For him to turn it around the next night and smoke Anderson; that is unbelieveable; playing devil's advocate, Taylor never had to do that.

marklazarcovic

How many 110+ averages have we seen him put in just because he knows he's gonna win and wants the high average ,works both ways really

Ultimate Seduction

Having looked it up, you're probably right.

Taylors record average is 118 in a 10 nil whooping of Painter. Van Gerwens highest is 123 in a 7-1 whooping of Smith.

Averages are funny, Taylor lost 6-0 to Darren Webster even though he averaged 110.

For any casual fans who only really see the world championship, have a watch of this. Both averaging 116 after 20 legs. The best game I've ever seen scoring wise

https://youtu.be/BB8GrKtZwaE

Only other one I can think of where both had huge average was mvg v barney at the worlds a few years ago barney had highest ever losing average.

PTH2009

Its a wonder how many of the guys who done so well (Searle, Humphries, Aspinall, Joyce) and others will do in the 219/20 championship with how deadly the new format is ??

Luck of the draw is the big one as we've seen with Dolan this year

marklazarcovic

Said it before but I'll say again,peak aidy Lewis is as good as mvg/Ando/Taylor , such a shame he's fallen so far away..still young enough to come back.

peteeeed

First final since 1983 where both players are under 30

marklazarcovic

Think Smith is older too

Gotya

It's going to be a cracking final tonight, with both players over the 100 average. Both missing very little, until they are tied 4-4 a piece.

Both will then miss a few doubles and I can see Smith winning it, 7-5 with a ton out, finishing on the bull.

Liamalone

What time is kick off tonight?

Happy4all

Liamalone wrote: »

What time is kick off tonight?

8.15 pm

dulux99

Really hoping for a good game. I'm a casual fan at best but it's been a very forgettable tournament.

Loafing Oaf

Gotya wrote: »

It's going to be a cracking final tonight, with both players over the 100 average. Both missing very little, until they are tied 4-4 a piece.

Both will then miss a few doubles and I can see Smith winning it, 7-5 with a ton out, finishing on the bull.

But surely if MVG is in his semi-final form Smith won't be able to live with him?