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Not without me horses boss. Free housing rejected

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    What do you mean? Was that a typo?

    I said don't let your user name fool you.

    You don't work?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    We're ****ing losers in this country


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I said don't let your user name fool you.

    You don't work?

    I do, yes.
    You don't run?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Were you 18?
    The two traveller kids were repeating 3rd class.*













    * I know. I’m going to hell. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Were you 18?

    Third class, 8 going on 9.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Third class, 8 going on 9.

    You’re going to hell too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Third class, 8 going on 9.

    Ah, now I get it. Last year was it?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    I do, yes.
    You don't run?

    I run when not flying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    endacl wrote: »
    The two traveller kids were repeating 3rd class.*












    * I know. I’m going to hell. :([/QUOTE
    Oh, I got it:)

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Cina wrote: »
    3Vv2G6v.png

    It's called the 3Arena now.

    But I take your point.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    endacl wrote: »
    You’re going to hell too!

    :D had to go through that year to get to secondary school and university.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I run when not flying.

    Ok. I run when not been a hero.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Ah, now I get it. Last year was it?

    Initially I was 18. Now I'm 10. Funny you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Jaysus they don't know they are born.

    Back in the day the Dubs were well able to keep their horses up in their flats



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Initially I was 18. Now I'm 10. Funny you are.

    Thanks horse.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Ok. I run when not been a hero.

    At least you work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    KrustyUCC wrote: »

    "They were to be built with a half-acre behind each house, with two stables," said Philip McCarthy, one of the residents at Cabragh Bridge.

    "They (Tipperary County Council) changed it to a group project, like a mini-housing estate. The agreement was two stables and a half-an-acre for the horses, but they never came up with that."

    But have it your way as you are intent on twisting everything to blame the travellers.. gets rather monotonous..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    cake and eat it!give nothing and expect everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Funny you are.

    Read that in a Yoda voice. Now I think you run like Yoda.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    YFlyer wrote: »
    At least you work.

    True enough.
    BTW I much prefer when you post in the AR forum, much more enlightened you are.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Graces7 wrote: »
    "They were to be built with a half-acre behind each house, with two stables," said Philip McCarthy, one of the residents at Cabragh Bridge.

    "They (Tipperary County Council) changed it to a group project, like a mini-housing estate. The agreement was two stables and a half-an-acre for the horses, but they never came up with that."

    But have it your way as you are intent on twisting everything to blame the travellers.. gets rather monotonous..

    Well, that’d be hearsay from somebody who wants everything for nothing, wouldn’t it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Graces7 wrote: »
    "They were to be built with a half-acre behind each house, with two stables," said Philip McCarthy, one of the residents at Cabragh Bridge.

    "They (Tipperary County Council) changed it to a group project, like a mini-housing estate. The agreement was two stables and a half-an-acre for the horses, but they never came up with that."

    But have it your way as you are intent on twisting everything to blame the travellers.. gets rather monotonous..

    The council dispute that was the 'agreement'

    Half an acre behind each house is a huge amount of land for the council to give away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    endacl wrote: »
    Read that in a Yoda voice. Now I think you run like Yoda.

    Or like that guy on Goodfellows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    Graces7 wrote: »
    "They were to be built with a half-acre behind each house, with two stables," said Philip McCarthy, one of the residents at Cabragh Bridge.

    "They (Tipperary County Council) changed it to a group project, like a mini-housing estate. The agreement was two stables and a half-an-acre for the horses, but they never came up with that."

    But have it your way as you are intent on twisting everything to blame the travellers.. gets rather monotonous..

    Oh god, who to believe? The council, or a traveller? Which of those two is more likely to lie, I wonder?

    I'd answer but the mod will probably delete my post for "insults" again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,236 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Sorry, that free house isn't good enough boss!

    Ridiculous. Why is crap like that tolerated? Should I stop paying my mortgage?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Graces7 wrote: »
    "They were to be built with a half-acre behind each house, with two stables," said Philip McCarthy, one of the residents at Cabragh Bridge.

    "They (Tipperary County Council) changed it to a group project, like a mini-housing estate. The agreement was two stables and a half-an-acre for the horses, but they never came up with that."

    But have it your way as you are intent on twisting everything to blame the travellers.. gets rather monotonous..

    You do realise you are defending social housing coming with half an acre and stables, don't you ???


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Cina wrote: »
    Oh god, who to believe? The council, or a traveller? Which of those two is more likely to lie, I wonder?

    I'd answer but the mod will probably delete my post for "insults" again.

    You should do a quick google on the goings on at Wicklow CC:)

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    You do realise you are defending social housing coming with half an acre and stables, don't you ???
    Let it go. Grace’s reality is not really anything like ‘reality’ reality. And when she’s asked a simple question that contradicts her position, such as that one, she’ll suddenly have to go to bed because she’s tired. Or make some jam. Or walk the bees...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    "It's a load a' shy so t'is, I asked fer a ten bed so each of da childer could have half a room, and a stable for the horse spread over two.. no ... three ... four acres? I dunno.. whatever acres a football pitch is like. Da Missus has no room fer anythin' in there either now cause they did nae give me da' Pennies storage closet! So I told 'em ta go do one til we get wha' we asked for, robbin' b*stards!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Graces7 wrote: »
    "They were to be built with a half-acre behind each house, with two stables," said Philip McCarthy, one of the residents at Cabragh Bridge.

    "They (Tipperary County Council) changed it to a group project, like a mini-housing estate. The agreement was two stables and a half-an-acre for the horses, but they never came up with that."

    But have it your way as you are intent on twisting everything to blame the travellers.. gets rather monotonous..


    Its a he said she said situation council say they are supplying what they said they would the residents don't, nobody here knows the actual truth from the article.

    But regardless of that argument do you honestly think it is right that the taxes we all pay are put towards funding what is essentially an expensive hobby for some people who do not work.

    I have no problem them going on the housing list like anyone else and potentially getting accommodation sorted through that. But why should anyone have council houses built with excessive land and facilities just because they want it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    You do realise you are defending social housing coming with half an acre and stables, don't you ???

    Or criticising a local authority for providing (free) social housing , without a 1/2 acre and stables....

    You'd have to despair for this country and the b0110x we entertain from freeloaders and their enablers and advocates.

    If those horses arent registered, then they have no horses. Thetefore no horse "entitlement". Fcuk off.
    Housing crisis my hoop. Its a tack, sladdlery and stable crisis we have.


    Id love a big fcuking massive dog in my mortgaged to the hilt house, I'm paying for. I grew up with dogs, always had a dog... Its almost cultural.
    But my house is too small for a big dog so we have a cnut of a cat. C'est la vie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Id love a big fcuking massive dog in my mortgaged to the hilt house, I'm paying for. I grew up with dogs, always had a dog... Its almost cultural.
    But my house is too small for a big dog so we have a cnut of a cat. C'est la vie

    Cats are such kunts alright. *sympathises*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 498 ✭✭zapitastas


    You do realise you are defending social housing coming with half an acre and stables, don't you ???

    Brings new meaning to the term council estate: edging toward the old landed estate, complete with summer residence and walled garden


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    zapitastas wrote: »
    Brings new meaning to the term council estate: edging toward the old landed estate, complete with summer residence and walled garden

    Pray silence for His Excellency the Baronet John "I'll Fight Ye and Every Bastard Man of Ye" McDonough......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    So the next person on the list will accept the house.If he prefers to live
    an a caravan with a house outside , thats up to him.
    Whether his children be happy to stay there is another matter .
    I don,t think the council will allow a tenant to keep horses or any large animal in the back garden .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    It absolutely sickens my stomach to see people who don't contribute anything to the economy/country get rewarded with a property I could never afford,kitted out with all mod cons don't forget, these houses have solar panels on the roof also..

    Be it travellers or non,

    I'm working for 25 years,mid income,one kid,no horses,12 yr old car, I could maybe afford a house half of what these houses are.

    Every day this sheet sickens my stomach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Maybe because they have children who need decent accommodation. Your "them" includes women and children.

    This isn't lifeboats on the titanic. The women are just as capable of getting a job.

    Or not as in the case of certain groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    This isn't lifeboats on the titanic. The women are just as capable of getting a job.

    Or not as in the case of certain groups.

    Exactly, lumping women in with children in this day and age is ridiculously sexist and demeaning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Ah Travellers. Its the 99% that give the 1% a bad name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    EVERY SINGLE THREAD without exception, that is about a specific Traveller or group of Travellers descends into an all out hatefest, straight up generalisations and rarely if ever anything other than across the board discrimination.

    Not saying it's right but what do you say to the fact that the vast, vast majority on here have had nothing but negative dealings with Travellers? Nearly everyone has a bad opinion of them or a bad experience when they've come across them. Why is that? Are they all wrong?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭uncommon_name


    This is a disgrace, they were offered a house, they declined it.
    Put them straight to the bottom of the list and make them wait a few years again. Bet they wont decline the house the next time they are offered one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭Stephen Gawking


    I am so sick of the whinging of the 'entitled' classes & their PBP apologists in this joke of a country! The only thing these phukkers contribute to the country is litter, crime stats & a never ending cycle of inbred welfare rats. They are nothing short of parasites.
    And to think that they've been given ethnic status! We really do deserve what we get in this country when we continually vote in the same idiot politicians who granted them said status. Just what did they do to deserve such properties? How much tax, PRSI & USC do they pay? Absolute welfare rats! People dying on the streets with more undoubtedly to follow & money is wasted on these leeches. No wonder the country is in the state it's in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    Sickening for anybody who has to slave to afford to buy a house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Not saying it's right but what do you say to the fact that the vast, vast majority on here have had nothing but negative dealings with Travellers? Nearly everyone has a bad opinion of them or a bad experience when they've come across them. Why is that? Are they all wrong?[/QUOT

    I would question your *vast, vast majority on here* is that this thread, or boards in general, what type of numbers or percentage ? Also, going by some of the moronic posts in this thread, i would question the validity of the complaints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I would question your *vast, vast majority on here* is that this thread, or boards in general, what type of numbers or percentage ? Also, going by some of the moronic posts in this thread, i would question the validity of the complaints.

    You'd be wrong. If you asked 100 people on Boards or in real life about their experiences with Travellers or their opinions on Travellers, you'd get mostly negative responses. At least 80%, if not more. Their reputation didn't just conjure itself up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    tringle wrote: »
    I'm quite local to this and know some of the individuals. Negotiations begun maybe 8 years ago and the horses and land where always part of the deal, much more so than the size of the houses or other facilities. The council.always knew this, I can't understand why they didn't follow through, I thought that had been agreed at the beginning.

    Tipperary County Council has categorically denied that any agreement was made to provide accommodation for horses at six new homes they built for members of the Travelling community https://t.co/LTo3Rq2F8N


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Omackeral wrote: »
    You'd be wrong. If you asked 100 people on Boards or in real life about their experiences with Travellers or their opinions on Travellers, you'd get mostly negative responses. At least 80%, if not more. Their reputation didn't just conjure itself up.
    I must say I’ve had quite a few positive experiences with several travellers I know. That said, if you met them, you wouldn’t know they were travellers. They have jobs, pay for stuff etc.

    Their culture isn’t a collection of behaviours. I’ve had less positive experiences with others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    what do they actually do with their live stock :confused: i sort of get amish like in US but this is hills have eyes more like scenario.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    I am so sick of the whinging of the 'entitled' classes & their PBP apologists in this joke of a country! The only thing these phukkers contribute to the country is litter, crime stats & a never ending cycle of inbred welfare rats. They are nothing short of parasites.
    And to think that they've been given ethnic status! We really do deserve what we get in this country when we continually vote in the same idiot politicians who granted them said status. Just what did they do to deserve such properties? How much tax, PRSI & USC do they pay? Absolute welfare rats! People dying on the streets with more undoubtedly to follow & money is wasted on these leeches. No wonder the country is in the state it's in.

    Sure why not round them up and put them in a ghetto, make them wear a star to separate them, maybe even gas them after awhile.
    You do realize the nonsense you are spouting is akin to Goebbels, but hey, they are only travellers so it's ok on Boards right ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    You want land and stables pay for it yourself. Otherwise stfu and take what you are given and have a bit of appreciation and humility. Sick of travellers and their constant victimhood. We do enough for them as it is, they should be forced to take responsibility for their own lives.


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