Not without me horses boss. Free housing rejected

removed2

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Vermin , I mean What about the Vermin these animals will bring. You can't have animals living in housing estates

reported for foul language

Vincent Vega

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A picture is worth a thousand words as they say.
Why don't you toddle along and engage with these fine folks?

Do come back and enthral us all with the tales of merriment pink bunny rabbits and rainbows your encounter.

Have done and surely will many times again.

Would ye imagine that!

Getting to know and taking a kind view of people based on who they are as individuals and not holding opinions of them based solely on consensus regarding their collective identity.

Fúckin mindblowing stuff, isn't it?!

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P_1 wrote: »

350k to build a house anywhere is madness. Serious questions need to be asked there. Should cost 120k each to build max

look at the fooking stone at the front wall,
the most expensive machine cut llimestone on the market
wtf
edit; sorry cant post image

whisky_galore

Shame we don't have a taste for horse meat like the French, Italians and others. Wandering horses problem would be solved. It really is nice.

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salmocab wrote: »

Does the 350k include the land? If it does then a clever farmer got top dollar for his land and fair play to him, if it doesn’t then the council need to look at the procurement dept.

if it was my land i'd just give it free to the county council so everyone is happy

edit: i mean the extra 3 acres they need for the horses

hawkelady

removed2 wrote: »

reported for foul language

Are you taking the piss or what? Stick to the thread .. what’s your views on travellers wanting land and stables on top of their free solar paneled 5 and 3 bedroom houses ??

bloodless_coup

removed2 wrote: »

look at the fooking stone at the front wall,
the most expensive machine cut llimestone on the market
wtf
edit; sorry cant post image

80k for the wall apparently.

gctest50

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

So you're saying since we have already wasted €20 million whats €1.7 million more.;)

It's about a billion euros a year - parasites on parasites

The State is currently funding some 220 treatment and rehabilitation community drugs projects via the HSE.

The Department of Health supports a further 100 community drugs prevention projects

tayto lover

removed2 wrote: »

reported for foul language

It's about horses, not hens or ducks.

CinemaGuy45

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Getting to know and taking a kind view of people based on who they are as individuals and not holding opinions of them based solely on consensus regarding their collective identity.

Fúckin mindblowing stuff, isn't it?!

I hold entrenched conclusions on them based on my personal experience spanning many years.

TheValeyard

removed2 wrote: »

if it was my land i'd just give it free to the county council so everyone is happy

edit: i mean the extra 3 acres they need for the horses

gctest50

removed2 wrote: »

look at the fooking stone at the front wall,
the most expensive machine cut llimestone on the market
wtf
edit; sorry cant post image

It's a lovely wall though :P

removed2

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Government contracts one thing.
If the builder is providing quotes like that in a competitive economy his business will be knackered before long.

ha i know it's what stands out to me cos i was a stonewaller during the celtic tiger,
for a customer i woulda done that wall for 16k
for a cc 22k

but this is 80k

doesnt add up

CinemaGuy45

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

removed2

gctest50 wrote: »

It's a lovely wall though :P

the Great Wall of Tipperary

ps i only heard on the radio it cost 80k, no other proof,

For Forks Sake

Drone shot of the site here, there's a load of roadways, footpaths, lighting drainage etc gone into that site (as the council are probably obliged to provide)

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1049361084224815105

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doylefe wrote: »

They had a "vox pop" on Newstalk earlier to get the reactions of locals. While all said the travellers should accept the houses as they are, it was surprising to me how many of the people interviewed were also in social housing or on the housing list.

One woman going on about how they are looking for a new house because thier current free house is beside the road and they don't like it.

What the fook is going on here.

it's like a twilight zone

endacl

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Drone shot of the site here, there's a load of roadways, footpaths, lighting drainage etc gone into that site (as the council are probably obliged to provide)

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1049361084224815105

Plenty of room in those back gardens for them to build their own stables, at their own....


....


...oh...


expense...

endacl

Jaysus. Solar panels. They’re getting free electricity too...

CinemaGuy45

endacl wrote: »

Jaysus. Solar panels. They’re getting free electricity too...

Are you trying to tell us they were paying for it before?

Graces7

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I hold entrenched conclusions on them based on my personal experience spanning many years.

trenches are nasty blind holes.

Graces7

gctest50 wrote: »

Please point out how spending 200 million on methadone is a benefit to society as a whole

If you do not know that you need help

Alrigghtythen

How much would it cost to house the horses?

How can these or their supporters say with a straight face that we should spend the money housing horses before people?


Where do the raise the roof crowd stand on this issue?

Kevin Finnerty

endacl wrote: »

Jaysus. Solar panels. They’re getting free electricity too...

They'd make handy sunbeds down in the parlour.:pac:

wexie

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Drone shot of the site here, there's a load of roadways, footpaths, lighting drainage etc gone into that site (as the council are probably obliged to provide)

It's possible I missed them but I didn't spot any stables across the road on the halting site where they are now....


Where are they keeping the horses....

removed2

doylefe wrote: »

80k for the wall apparently.

thats what i heard aswell on newstalk, i belive from a Tipp county Councillor,
do people even realise the price of stone
hint, it's not a rare metal

Grab All Association

It’s time to organise a protest at Tipperary County Council (formerly Thurles Town Council) offices at Matthew Avenue/Castle Avenue Thurles calling for these houses to be allocated to the most needy of the 900 applicants. Their offices are just up the road from Thurles train station. Nothing will change if we don’t stand up now! We’ll just be squeezed for more and more. It’s not fair that people on disability allowance and low incomes are coming bottom of the list in this country when it comes to social housing. Meanwhile those who choose a lifestyle of living on benefit and/or commit crimes are given what they want at the expense of those who work and pay taxes.

MonkieSocks

At least the driveways will be spotless

Working class heroes

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Are you trying to tell us they were paying for it before?

Have you info to prove otherwise? If so post it please. If not stop posting ****e.

AllForIt

endacl wrote: »

Let it go. Grace’s reality is not really anything like ‘reality’ reality. And when she’s asked a simple question that contradicts her position, such as that one, she’ll suddenly have to go to bed because she’s tired. Or make some jam. Or walk the bees...

I was just about to log off boards after reading this thread cause I can't take it anymore but then I read this one last post and I'm right as rain again. Walk the Bees! Hahahahaha!.

Beechwoodspark

removed2 wrote: »

1.7 million
the wall at the front cost 80,000 grand
heard that on the radio
how is that value for money
is it built out of italian marble
this fiasco is bringing heat on the tipp coco

Jasus you'd wonder how long that wall will be in place if it's made from Italian marble

NasserShammaz

removed2 wrote: »

reported for foul language

:rolleyes: ;)I was talking about the rats

endacl

AllForIt wrote: »

I was just about to log off boards after reading this thread cause I can't take it anymore but then I read this one last post and I'm right as rain again. Walk the Bees! Hahahahaha!.

Those buzzy little fcukers won’t walk themselves, y’know!

Alrigghtythen

If they can't afford to house themselves shouldn't they cut back on discretionary spending? Like horses?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

gctest50 wrote: »

Please point out how spending 200 million on methadone is a benefit to society as a whole

If you have to ask about the point of rehabilitation, then you have something new to learn

Educate yourself regarding the clinics and the benefits. It's not a miracle solution, but the alternative is much worse.

hawkelady

MonkieSocks wrote: »

At least the driveways will be spotless

It’ll last longer too seeing as the disgruntled tenants didn’t do the tarring themselves !
Are the gutters clean , I wonder

removed2

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Drone shot of the site here, there's a load of roadways, footpaths, lighting drainage etc gone into that site (as the council are probably obliged to provide)

wow
there are tens of free acres there for the horses
so back to the mexican standoff

gctest50

Plenty space in that field for building a few stables like the Council promised



https://goo.gl/maps/SbYKjqcgDz22

CinemaGuy45

Working class heroes wrote: »

Have you info to prove otherwise? If so post it please. If not stop posting ****e.

If they are hard necked enough to reject free houses worth €1.7 million because they do not have stables for their illegal horses then yes I very much doubt they pay for very much.

By the way, I am working class and your not my hero.:D

endacl

gctest50 wrote: »

Plenty space in that field for building a few stables like the Council promised



https://goo.gl/maps/SbYKjqcgDz22

‘Like the man who wants free stables said the Council promised’, surely?

Working class heroes

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

If they are hard necked enough to reject free houses worth €1.7 million because they do not have stables for their illegal horses then yes I very much doubt they pay for very much.

By the way, I am working class and your not my hero.:D

So you can’t prove it, gotcha.

Alrigghtythen

wexie wrote: »

It's possible I missed them but I didn't spot any stables across the road on the halting site where they are now....


Where are they keeping the horses....

https://maps.google.com/?q=52.652181,-7.836501


You can see a stable on this

Fr_Dougal

gctest50 wrote: »

Plenty space in that field for building a few stables like the Council promised



https://goo.gl/maps/SbYKjqcgDz22

Council didn’t promise anything. They’re trying to pull a fast one.

CinemaGuy45

Working class heroes wrote: »

So you can’t prove it, gotcha.

I can't prove Bigfoot or the Lochness monster don't exist either but I think Paddy Power might put better odds on them.

removed2

Graces7 wrote: »

trenches are nasty blind holes.

your pissing into the wind mate but i agree with you

Working class heroes

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I can't prove Bigfoot or the Lochness monster don't exist either but I think Paddy Power might put better odds on them.

Stop digging.

Gimme A Pound

Working class heroes wrote: »

I might as well keep to the spirit of the thread.
The middle class people of this country are all w4nkers, all of them, no exceptions.
Am I doing it right?

Oh zzzzzz. Those who won't hear a word said against travellers are middle-class folk from nice quiet areas without any problems.
It's working-class people who have to put up with the problems on their doorstep caused by many travellers, who are among their biggest critics. And understandably so.

If a person is critical of the problems and entitlements, it doesn't mean they think every single traveller without exception is a scumbag.

wexie

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

https://maps.google.com/?q=52.652181,-7.836501


You can see a stable on this

Okay so they have a stable(s), what's stopping them from disassembling it/them and bringing it across the road themselves?

Plenty of room there, I've seen travelers keep horses on a lot less land than that and on land a lot less suitable for it.

CinemaGuy45

Working class heroes wrote: »

Stop digging.

Back on topic, I agree.

800 other people on the housing list for that council.

Do you think they are justified rejecting purpose-built free houses because there are no stables for their illegal animals?

removed2

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

How much would it cost to house the horses?

How can these or their supporters say with a straight face that we should spend the money housing horses before people?


Where do the raise the roof crowd stand on this issue?

cost rundown

3 acre of land (as per demand)
9k times 3= 27k
top of the range stables built from italian marble and oak 10k

a bargain at 39,999