WWE Crown Jewel - 2nd November (as it stands) - Spoilers and Discussion

sky88 · 22-10-2018 7:59pm

This would be more intresting with bryan and cena

https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool/status/1054445652011302912?s=19

ThePott · 22-10-2018 9:09pm

sky88 wrote: »

This would be more intresting with bryan and cena

https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool/status/1054445652011302912?s=19

Kayfabe wise this could be handled easily enough as Cena never even technically qualified for the World Cup.

Should be interesting if true though.
At this point it probably would take a mass revolt from talent to fall through and if there's two wrestlers who could do this without facing repurcussions it probably would be Bryan and Cena.

Agent Coulson · 22-10-2018 9:39pm

Cena could say his new Chinese Overlords are blocking him.

CastorTroy · 22-10-2018 11:12pm

Does Bryan have that much sway? With Cena on his side he should be okay, but on his own I don't think he would.

ThePott · 22-10-2018 11:32pm

Idk, I mean he's one of the most beloved wrestlers on their roster. He's married to one of their most marketable stars. I think he definitely has muscle to flex.

I don't think they'd want to risk him going elsewhere or shooting on the company. I know he's under contract so can't technically go anywhere but I don't think WWE would want that independent contracter deal put under a legal microscope if it came to that.

Maybe I'm reaching.

Lord TSC · 23-10-2018 11:57am

I'd say it's more that Bryan doesn't feel he NEEDS WWE in the same way a lot of them do. I feel he'd be as happy in other companies as he is in WWE so probably has more courage to stick two fingers up at them if needed.

ThePott · 23-10-2018 2:57pm

Oh of course I should probably phrase it as such, he doesn't need WWE he's already a star and WWE would do anything to keep him there and happy as he seems like someone who genuinely would be happy to go elsewhere. I think based on that he is in the position to stand up for what he wants or say he doesn't want to do something.

Of note too that Meltzer has said that he has heard similiar things that WWE Creative was told Cena would not be at the show and that the show is less certain than it was a week ago hence why tickets were not on sale on Friday as planned.

Lord TSC · 23-10-2018 4:21pm

Yeah, John Pollock at Post-Wrestling was also saying he's been told that Cena is off the show.

CastorTroy · 23-10-2018 6:35pm

I thought Angle was leaving him out of his video, but then he was there at the end.

And now we get a new Universal Champion

Lord TSC · 23-10-2018 8:57pm

https://twitter.com/robbiebarstool/status/1054808292361453568?s=21

PTH2009 · 23-10-2018 10:58pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/robbiebarstool/status/1054808292361453568?s=21

I'll be pissed off if they move it to the UK as I can't go due to work unless they change the date to suite me ha

PTH2009 · 24-10-2018 11:01am

https://twitter.com/TopRopeTravis/status/1055035518008860672?s=19

If true i Suppose having it in the US makes logistical sense and they can fly out straight after for the Euro tour. Save some guys a lot of hassle too

Lord TSC · 24-10-2018 11:51am

I wonder if they will add a woman's match or two then. Charlotte/Becky and Rousey/Bella rematches?

Also, it means HBK is coming out of retirement for what's basically a B level PPV

Wonder if they'll pull shenanigans and try and save the match for a bigger show?

ThePott · 24-10-2018 12:20pm

I'm gonna assume a lot of the more high profile matches will be bumped to Survivor Series and they'll add some new matches to fill out the card if this is the case.

PTH2009 · 24-10-2018 2:07pm

ThePott wrote: »

I'm gonna assume a lot of the more high profile matches will be bumped to Survivor Series and they'll add some new matches to fill out the card if this is the case.

They need a strong card for ticket sales as the change is such less notice.

Just over a week to sell 20/30000 Tickets

If it's moved to the UK it's possible it might be moved to a different date

We should know today anyway hopefully

CastorTroy · 24-10-2018 2:20pm

I think they should just bite the bullet and cut this completely. I know it's been advertised, but there's now a lot of negativity attached to it

ThePott · 24-10-2018 2:44pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

They need a strong card for ticket sales as the change is such less notice.

Just over a week to sell 20/30000 Tickets

If it's moved to the UK it's possible it might be moved to a different date

We should know today anyway hopefully

True but I don't think they can expect to sell that many tickets with the current card regardless. If this show does go ahead in the US for the same date this show will probably have dirt cheap tickets or lots of papered seats.

Remember that this show at it's current date is nearly two weeks from Survivor Series. They can't feasibly delay it that much.

If tickets do go on Sale Friday and the date stays the same they have one week to move the tickets. It'll probably just become a big house show similar to Starrcade last year. I still reckon they'll hold off on the big matches, your DX vs BOD and maybe even the 'World Cup' for Survivor Series. As there is currently nothing announced for that to move tickets.

Cianan2 · 24-10-2018 7:15pm

Wait a minute!! What's Crown Jewel doing in the impact zone?!

connemara man · 24-10-2018 7:18pm

Cianan2 wrote: »

Wait a minute!! What's Jrown Cewel doing in the impact zone?!

FYP

CastorTroy · 25-10-2018 11:39am

Makes the World Cup even funnier sounding now. All Americans fighting in America

PTH2009 · 25-10-2018 12:51pm

Rumours now it's Sat 3rd Nov in Manchester Arena

Prices for flights are through the roof for that day and the ferry too hollyhead is only half the journey lol.

PTH2009 · 25-10-2018 1:50pm

https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/wwe-confirms-crown-jewel-event-in-saudi-arabia-will-go-on-as-scheduled-on-nov-2/

Loughc · 25-10-2018 2:08pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Rumours now it's Sat 3rd Nov in Manchester Arena

Prices for flights are through the roof for that day and the ferry too hollyhead is only half the journey lol.

The news sites are having a field day sharing fake rumours and exclusives on this. I bet ya Vince didn’t even hesitate on running the show over there. This show is part of a much larger deal, the media will forget about this next month and Vince will go back to raking in the money.

And boy does Vince love money.

Lord TSC · 25-10-2018 2:09pm

From their 3rd quarter investor notes today

http://corporate.wwe.com/news/company-news/2018/10-25-2018

WWE has operated in the Middle East for nearly 20 years and has developed a sizable and dedicated fan base. Considering the heinous crime committed at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, the Company faced a very difficult decision as it relates to its event scheduled for November 2 in Riyadh. Similar to other U.S.-based companies who plan to continue operations in Saudi Arabia, the Company has decided to uphold its contractual obligations to the General Sports Authority and stage the event. Full year 2018 guidance is predicated on the staging of the Riyadh event as scheduled4

So, straight from he horses mouth. Show goes ahead as planned.