Got to love the left.

Will I Am Not

I disagree with people who say the left or right are not a hive mind. It would seem to be the case that in general they are. It’s no surprise the usernames popping up here to downplay, defend or distract from the idiocy in this case.

Brian?

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Whenever I see "The left" being described as if it were some sort of organisation of hive-minded individuals, it's often a sound indicator that someone is talking nonsense.

You don’t understand. We get sent a bulletin weekly by the head lefty, otherwise we don’t know what to outraged by every week.

Then twice a year we have a meeting together. There’s about 780 millions of us, so it’s tough getting a room. The agenda for the last few years has been “how to destroy western society by importing Muslim rapists”.

Once we’re all aligned, not one of us can think for ourselves or deviate from the doctrine decided.

KevinCavan

Tell me how wrote: »

I seriously doubt that happened.

Sounds too specific while simultaneously vague.

Tesco Cork City

Gimme A Pound

More concern about it being the Daily Mail and the use of the term "lefties", than the actual incident.

OldMrBrennan83

Archer Fit Sperm wrote: »

More concern about it being the Daily Mail and the use of the term "lefties", than the actual incident.

Shouldn't be. The incident is far more serious and going down the road of mob rule. How many of these loons are going to think they can 'make a difference' now?

Tell me how

KevinCavan wrote:

Tesco Cork City

Sorry. Still not convinced. Not even close to be honest.

BuyersRemorse

Irish people reading the Daily Mail. Did you enjoy Princess Beatrice's lovely wedding?, or how about a tour around Jacob Rees Mogg's house, or maybe a few stories about good old patriotism and how it was better in the old days when people stood for the national anthem?

Christ.

A worldwide shift towards the hard right and still people are blaming a non existent 'Left' for all the world's ills.

bfa1509

I think it's terrible that he's being separated from his family. They should deport them all together.

Cabaal

anewme wrote: »

As a result of their opinionated ignorance, the rapist is still there.

The guy was accompanied by Home Office Security.

If you saw a prison van with criminals heading down to Portlaiise you wouldn't hijack it to set the prisoners free to go home to their families.

No you wouldn't of course, because very clearly you know its likely a serious crime if they are in a prison van.

If on the other hand they decided to transport criminals on the bus eireann bus its not so clear if they are a criminal or not.

One would also question why they transport criminals along with people going on holidays/going to work, very clearly they should review how they are transporting people.

NewbridgeIR

Sonics2k wrote: »

Do adults think using the term 'libtards' or 'the left' as if it were some hive mind think it's witty or funny?

Don't like or use libtard.
But 'the left' is fair enough.

What's your view on adults using the infantile 'men in suits' or 'suits'? Once I hear someone use that term, I switch off.

KevinCavan

Tell me how wrote: »

Sorry. Still not convinced. Not even close to be honest.

I’ll just have to live with you not believing me then

blinding

Deportations should be done by parachute . A Parachute should be offered and if refused so be it .

QuintusFabius

dudara wrote: »

The people on the plane didn’t know, and they weren’t told. Their actions, while daft, were well-intended.

One obvious solution would be for the accompanying officers to be able to share some details of why the deportation is taking place (e.g. serious crime conviction). However, that in itself could cause panic and noise from passengers, so maybe not a good idea.

IMO, it seems that there needs to be a better protocol established for the logistics of deportation.

^^ another lefty making excuses for rape - so long as it's islamic rape, it's perfectly fine.

Tell me how

QuintusFabius wrote:

^^ another lefty making excuses for rape - so long as it's islamic rape, it's perfectly fine.

Yeah it was a leftist who famously said "Grab em by the p*ssy".

blinding

Tell me how wrote: »

Yeah it was a leftist who famously said "Grab em by the p*ssy".

They stopped a Rapist being deported because they are dumb .

Maybe if Lefties weren’t so dumb ya wouldn’t get Trump .

meeeeh

QuintusFabius wrote: »

^^ another lefty making excuses for rape - so long as it's islamic rape, it's perfectly fine.

The mental arithmetic that allowed you to come to that conclusion must be fascinating. Or you could be unable to actually comprehend what you are reading.

Tell me how

blinding wrote:

Maybe if Lefties weren’t so dumb ya wouldn’t get Trump .

These people were trying to be compassionate in what was (and probably will be 90% of the time) a misguided manner.

If people being compassionate is used as an excuse to justify Trump his behavior and morals then the world truly is on a slippery slope.

dark crystal

iebamm2580 wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6273199/Somali-man-deportation-stopped-good-plane-passengers-revealed-gang-rapist.html
Id appreciate if i wasnt called a racist or xenophobe and the actual stupidity of these people on the plane was discussed.

You don't like it when people label you?


Hmmm.

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dark crystal wrote:

You don't like it when people label you?

I think they don't like it that even the leftists here think the people on the plan were wrong in this instance.

They came here for a self-righteous argument.

QuintusFabius

meeeeh wrote: »

The mental arithmetic that allowed you to come to that conclusion must be fascinating. Or you could be unable to actually comprehend what you are reading.

OK so I will break it down.
Let's imagine it was a white skinhead - a real nasty piece of **** that was being deported for the exact same crime.
People on the plane of course don't know this but we can be 100% sure they wouldn't intervene on this case - but lets say they do! - would that poster have said "Oh they did it in the best intent" ? - No, it would be a case of ... wow how these people on the plane must be such scum defending a rapist ...
However, when the perp has brown skin the opinion is - he can't have done anything wrong and if he did ... insert some excuse here to dismiss it - this is called bigotry of low expectations.

The people on that plane were BIGOTS.
That poster is a BIGOT!

Feel free to lambast me here, I won't be checking this thread again.
As Joe Rogan would say - "POST ... and DROP"

batgoat

QuintusFabius wrote: »

^^ another lefty making excuses for rape - so long as it's islamic rape, it's perfectly fine.

No they're not, that's a pretty dishonest misrepresentation of what they said or your comprehension skills are terrible.

engiweirdo

Am firmly of the opinion that most do-gooders are closet wrong-uns in any case. Be very wary of anyone who must constantly be visibly seen doing "good" things.

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QuintusFabius wrote:

Feel free to lambast me here, I won't be checking this thread again. As Joe Rogan would say - "POST ... and DROP"

Ha ha. Brilliant.
Can't debate so will shout and leave.
But the left are the hysterical ones.

Thanks QuintusFabius, you're proving the perception of your kind once again.

Guy:Incognito

RandomName2 wrote: »

Deportation is already a pretty expensive process without bringing chartered flights for individual passengers into the mix, which would be the only alternative.

How big of a cannon would be needed to reach half way round the world? We should set up a European fund to build one.

No need for any plane tickets or accompanying stuff then.

iebamm2580

dark crystal wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6273199/Somali-man-deportation-stopped-good-plane-passengers-revealed-gang-rapist.html
Id appreciate if i wasnt called a racist or xenophobe and the actual stupidity of these people on the plane was discussed.

You don't like it when people label you?


Hmmm.

Exactly but i love to label others. Hope you are having a lovely day and my labeling of people doesn't offend you too much. Anyway must go i have some people down the street to label.

gw80

Tell me how wrote: »

Ha ha. Brilliant.
Can't debate so will shout and leave.
But the left are the hysterical ones.

Thanks QuintusFabius, you're proving the perception of your kind once again.

He,s bang on though,
If the guy was white, not a word would have been said.

Odhinn

iebamm2580 wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6273199/Somali-man-deportation-stopped-good-plane-passengers-revealed-gang-rapist.html
Id appreciate if i wasnt called a racist or xenophobe and the actual stupidity of these people on the plane was discussed.

They were acting on false information, as stated in the article, so you've really no basis for calling them on "stupidity".

engiweirdo

Odhinn wrote: »

They were acting on false information, as stated in the article, so you've really no basis for calling them on "stupidity".

Stupid is as stupid does. At the very least you'd have exhausted all appeals procedures to be deported if not committed a heinous crime. Those people were/are very much stupid.

JohnMc1

Tell me how wrote: »

These people were trying to be compassionate in what was (and probably will be 90% of the time) a misguided manner.

If people being compassionate is used as an excuse to justify Trump his behavior and morals then the world truly is on a slippery slope.

This isn't compassion. This is worthless virtue signalling. This is why the Left is losing so much ground in recent years. They put worthless feelings over everything else.

Guy:Incognito

Odhinn wrote: »

They were acting on false information, as stated in the article, so you've really no basis for calling them on "stupidity".

What information were they acting on? Seems to be no information from what I can see.

Either way, regardless of the reason for the Deportation, it's none of their business and they should stay out of it.

What sort of an idiot thinks that a couple of minutes sitting near someone being deported puts them in a position where they know more than the country deporting the person?

Odhinn

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What information were they acting on? Seems to be no information from what I can see.

Either way, regardless of the reason for the Deportation, it's none of their business and they should stay out of it.

What sort of an idiot thinks that a couple of minutes sitting near someone being deported puts them in a position where they know more than the country deporting the person?

You might familiarise yourself with the windrush scandal before continuing on your tirade.

Gimme A Pound

BuyersRemorse wrote: »

A worldwide shift towards the hard right and still people are blaming a non existent 'Left' for all the world's ills.

Ah now, non existent?

riffmongous

blinding wrote: »

They stopped a Rapist being deported because they are dumb .

Maybe if Lefties weren’t so dumb ya wouldn’t get Trump .

Yes you are correct, the lefties should know better than to think the righties can be trusted with voting with an ounce of sense or reason

Arrival

dudara wrote: »

The people on the plane didn’t know, and they weren’t told. Their actions, while daft, were well-intended.

One obvious solution would be for the accompanying officers to be able to share some details of why the deportation is taking place (e.g. serious crime conviction). However, that in itself could cause panic and noise from passengers, so maybe not a good idea.

IMO, it seems that there needs to be a better protocol established for the logistics of deportation.

Or, get this, people could sit there and shut the **** up and mind their own business and allow the officers to carry out their jobs in peace

Guy:Incognito

Odhinn wrote: »

You might familiarise yourself with the windrush scandal before continuing on your tirade.

And you might familiarise yourself with legitimate routes to air your issues.

How many of the Windrush generation are likely to be getting deported to Turkey? Or are all Brown people the same to you?

Does the Windrush scandal now mean that every Deportation is wrong?

It really doesn't matter what was going on. If you're sitting on a plane and get the urge to start some sort of social justice campaign, dont. Sit down, shut up and go on your holiday, letting everyone else do the same. Spend your 2 weeks in Turkey tapping away on your laptop telling everyone how great you are if you want but don't interfere with anyone else.

If you can't be bothered to find out proper information about something before diving in, it can't be that close to your heart in the first place.

Tell me how

gw80 wrote:

He,s bang on though, If the guy was white, not a word would have been said.

How do you know?

JohnMc1 wrote:

This isn't compassion. This is worthless virtue signalling. This is why the Left is losing so much ground in recent years. They put worthless feelings over everything else.

I believe that some think that everything others do for someone else is virtue signalling just because they cannot understand/comprehend what it is to be selfless.

Arrival wrote:

Or, get this, people could sit there and shut the **** up and mind their own business and allow the officers to carry out their jobs in peace

And in cases where officers are breaking the law (which was absolutely not the case in this instance) who should call them out on it?

Just because someone has a badge doesn't make them a noble hero, irrespective of what Fox says.

biko

I doubt these libtards had moved a muscle if the deportee were Polish or Australian (aka white).

WinnyThePoo

biko wrote: »

I doubt these libtards had moved a muscle if the deportee were Polish or Australian (aka white).

Why is skin colour so important to you?

Whats with the dull term 'libtard', do you not realise it more reflects on you then whoever your trying to smear.

JohnMc1

riffmongous wrote: »

Yes you are correct, the lefties should know better than to think the righties can be trusted with voting with an ounce of sense or reason

LOL. You're side believes:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female]
2) "We'll make Socialism work this time."
3)Feelings trump facts
4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

You are not the side of sense and reason so drop the smug, condescending attitude.

Tell me how

JohnMc1 wrote:

LOL. You're side believes:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female] 2) "We'll make Socialism work this time." 3)Feelings trump facts 4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

And we're on to the merry go round. Some leftists think that, but they are the minority.

Most are pragmatic, while, being compassionate and open to the evolution of societies.

biko

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Why is skin colour so important to you?

Whats with the dull term 'libtard', do you not realise it more reflects on you then whoever your trying to smear.

I'm making the point that skin colour is more important to the left.
I can elaborate if you don't understand.

Nm I'll do now.
Not a single person on the flight knew why this criminal was on the plane. But they could see a black man being deported.
Have you ever heard of passengers protesting a white person being deported?

riffmongous

JohnMc1 wrote: »

LOL. You're side believes:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female]
2) "We'll make Socialism work this time."
3)Feelings trump facts
4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

You are not the side of sense and reason so drop the smug, condescending attitude.

Wow the snowflakes on the right here really can't take it can they, you can't say anything to upset the little darlings

biko

Tell me how wrote: »

And we're on to the merry go round. Some leftists think that, but they are the minority.

What makes you think they are a minority?

Facts?

Or a feeling?

JohnMc1

riffmongous wrote: »

Wow the snowflakes on the right here really can't take it can they, you can't say anything to upset the little darlings

Or you just got caught writing garbage and now can't defend them with the facts and reason you claim to possess.

Tell me how

biko wrote:

What makes you think they are a minority?

Because I've never heard anyone but the extreme left state any of the points you have mentioned. And the extreme left are a small portion of society.

I've seen the odd one on news, Twitter and I know they exist but they are not the norm.

BattleCorp

Tell me how

JohnMc1 wrote:

Or you just got caught writing garbage and now can't defend them with the facts and reason you claim to possess.

Can you provide some facts to support your claims please that these are common motivations of those on the left.

JohnMc1 wrote:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female] 2) "We'll make Socialism work this time." 3)Feelings trump facts 4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

Brian?

biko wrote: »

I'm making the point that skin colour is more important to the left.
I can elaborate if you don't understand.

It doesn't. We decided at the last meeting that we only discriminate based on religion now. We're throwing in behind the Muslims. Bonus points for rapyness

riffmongous

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Or you just got caught writing garbage and now can't defend them with the facts and reason you claim to possess.

Here, the original post I quoted was blaming 'the left' for Trump, the blame for Trump lies strictly with the retards who like him and vote for him. I don't care about any of the issues you posted, that's not my Left, so you'll need to go reconsult your leftie outrage list

JohnMc1

riffmongous wrote: »

Here, the original post I quoted was blaming 'the left' for Trump, the blame for Trump lies strictly with the retards who like him and vote for him. I don't care about any of the issues you posted, that's not my Left, so you'll need to go reconsult your leftie outrage list

Whatever you say snowflake. Btw. Don't lecture anyone on making broad generalizations when you do the exact same thing.