If you could solve 3 cases..

dubstarr

Lady Spangles wrote: »

There were several reports of a "breakthrough" in Lee's case earlier this summer. Police were interviewing a new witness. I really hope something comes of it and his remains are found. Kevin Hicks is another teenage boy who just vanished without trace, also in the London area. I always wondered if they were connected.

Police know there was a pedo gang working in the area at that time.

gozunda

One I would add is the unsolved case of Barry Sherman and his wife, Honey at their home in Toronto in 2017

A very strange set of circumstances originaly flagged as a murder- suicide

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-apotex-billionaire-murder/

Aska

1 - Fiona Sinnott

2 - Mary Boyle

3 - Sophie Toscan Du Plantier / Fr. Niall Molloy (hard to pick one of those, intrigued by both)

happyoutscan

Amy Mihaljevic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Amy_Mihaljevic

thebull85

Lady Spangles wrote: »

Yes, I'll replace my first choice with Jill Dando. It's staggering that anyone can be shot in broad daylight, middle of the day in central London and the killer go completely undetected. Although, the miscarriage of justice of Barry George can't have helped matters.

Once someone is convicted, do the police then destroy evidence?

I watched this recently and it was very interesting, lots of stuff about the case i wasnt aware of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65y0kPXYeyI

Suckler

Lady Spangles wrote: »

Like a lot of people here, I would have mentioned Suzy Lamplugh. But, isn't it pretty much a given that she was murdered by John Cannan?

I see the Police are digging up John Cannan's mothers (former?) garden

shelly22

Madeline McCann
Trevor Deely
Amy Fitzpatrick

juno10353

Madeline mc cann
Missing Irish girls
Al Hilli Alps murders

goat2

Sophie du Plantier, The lady in West Cork, that was found murdered

Lady Spangles

juno10353 wrote: »

Al Hilli Alps murders

This is another of those cases where you slip right down a rabbit hole. It seems all key people caught up in it could present as legitimate targets for a hit. But (last I heard) the French police were formulating some theory they were victims of a serial killer.

Diemos

penno wrote: »

Shergar and Marie Celeste.

Well Shergar is the typical Irish secret that everyone knows, leg broken during the theft, due to inexperienced handlers.
Killed becasue of said leg.
Buried in Leitrim.

Marie Celeste was because of gallons of leaked rum caused a flash explosion.
-- Can't be proven 100% but experiments showed how the fire would let everything in perfect condition. Crew jumped over board during the chaos and drowned.

KevRossi wrote: »

Abroad

MH370
D.B. Cooper
Dyatlov Pass incident

MH370, sure looks like suicide by the pilot, the movements look intentional and the flyby his home island.

My guess is that D.B. died in the jump, given the cash that kid found in the bank of a stream and the fact that none of the other notes ever turned up.

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

A lot of people mentioning Trevor Deely but there's no evidence I know of that foul play was involved.

The video of the guy following and waiting outside the bank building for him certainly points at foul play.
I really hope that family get answers.

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

A lot of people mentioning Trevor Deely but there's no evidence I know of that foul play was involved.

Flippyfloppy

Lady Spangles wrote: »

This is another of those cases where you slip right down a rabbit hole. It seems all key people caught up in it could present as legitimate targets for a hit. But (last I heard) the French police were formulating some theory they were victims of a serial killer.

Yes, Nordahl Lelandais, he is a suspect in this murder. He is the main suspect in the abduction of a little girl at a wedding party in France.

Diemos

LISK
Zodiac
and from Ireland
Raonaid Murray.

but there are loads of other mysteries.
The recent capture of ONS/EAR shows that cases can still be closed decades later.

I think a DNA campaign in Kerry would resolve the identity of the Kerry baby but I'm not sure if the community actually wants to look behind that curtain.
The Yara Gambirasio case is fascinating for looking for a killer by familial DNA.

missyb01

my choices would be "Jennifer Fergate" found dead in a hotel in 1995 under an assumed identity and nobody matching her description has ever been reported missing or anything. Nobody has ever come forward to say that they knew her

Disappearance of Ben McDaniel

Disappearance/Murder of The Springfield Three

I know the above are all american but still very interesting and baffling cases.

Trevor Deely and Philip Cairns.
Conor and Shelia Dwyer

gozunda

Diemos wrote: »

LISK
Zodiac
and from Ireland
Raonaid Murray.

but there are loads of other mysteries.
The recent capture of ONS/EAR shows that cases can still be closed decades later.

I think a DNA campaign in Kerry would resolve the identity of the Kerry baby but I'm not sure if the community actually wants to look behind that curtain.
The Yara Gambirasio case is fascinating for looking for a killer by familial DNA.

Already

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Suckler

Irish ones -
Philip Cairns
Trevor Deely

It's difficult to single out the disappearance/murder (both?) of some of these cases - Annie McCarrick / Ciara Breen / Raonid Murray / Fiona Sinnott / Jojo Dullard / Deirdre Jacob / Sophie Toscan Du Plantier

There's a few Irish ones that need the final piece in the puzzle to "solve".... i.e put the cuffs on the blatantly guilty but just out of reach:
Fiona Pender / Sandra Collins / Mary Boyle / Father Niall Molloy / Paul Quinn / Anthony Campbell

Madeleine McCann - Just so that thread can be closed.

Foreign one's that intrigued me:
Dyatlov Pass
Gary Mathias
Elisa Lam

jr86

The main one for me would be JonBenet Ramsey

There's been a good few mentions of murder cases in the thread but in many instances it could be just something as simple as someone we've never heard of before or since committing a straightforward murder and that's it (e.g. the Du Plantier case). There are just so much depths to the JBR case however

If it was a member of the family, how did the (undoubtedly accidental) killing take place and how exactly did the cover-up process work? Who concocted all of the staging of the murder, how long before 911 was called, are all the family members actually even aware of the whole story, how have they lived with this all since? (particularly a 9 year old through his teenage years into adulthood, if he was aware of such a dark secret).

If it was an intruder, how did they gain entry, what was their motive, why did they use a pen and paper from the house itself and why did they draft such a long and pointless ransom note?

pc7

On JonBenet there was a show where they built the inside of the basement etc. and pretty much said it was the brother, it was Jim Clementi (former FBI agent) and Laura (UK officer), can't think of her surname, they do a podcast together too. I'll try google the show later it was well done

jr86

Its up on YouTube alright, its a very long watch however.

I haven't watched it in a while now, but a little bit too long is spent on analysing the in-distinctive comments from when the phone was not properly hung up after the 911 call. There's simply no way of knowing for sure what was said no matter how much doctoring is done. There's not a whole lot of ground-breaking stuff in it overall, that isn't covered by much shorter documentaries/reports out there

Interestingly, though, it was the first time the 911 operator was actually publicly interviewed as far as I'm aware

t1h9mgqsxopj0r

"foxyladyxx wrote: »

Tina Satchwell .. Just give me a lie detector kit .....

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Trevor Dealy.
Amy Fitzpatrick (<mod snip>discussing Irish case</mod snip>)
Fiona Pender

goat2

jr86 wrote: »

The main one for me would be JonBenet Ramsey

There's been a good few mentions of murder cases in the thread but in many instances it could be just something as simple as someone we've never heard of before or since committing a straightforward murder and that's it (e.g. the Du Plantier case). There are just so much depths to the JBR case however

If it was a member of the family, how did the (undoubtedly accidental) killing take place and how exactly did the cover-up process work? Who concocted all of the staging of the murder, how long before 911 was called, are all the family members actually even aware of the whole story, how have they lived with this all since? (particularly a 9 year old through his teenage years into adulthood, if he was aware of such a dark secret).

If it was an intruder, how did they gain entry, what was their motive, why did they use a pen and paper from the house itself and why did they draft such a long and pointless ransom note?

Little Jon Benet Ramsey used to be taking part in junior beauty pageants and was always dressed in provocative clothing, I have watched some of those shows and the little girls done up like adults, it was terrible and is still today how mothers can do that to their daughters,
instead of giving them a child hood, it was all about winning and too young for that kind of a world, kids should be let develop naturally and be kids,
Could have been some one that took a unhealthy liking to her, as she was too much on the public stage as are others her age

t1h9mgqsxopj0r

goat2 wrote: »

Little Jon Benet Ramsey used to be taking part in junior beauty pageants and was always dressed in provocative clothing, I have watched some of those shows and the little girls done up like adults, it was terrible and is still today how mothers can do that to their daughters,
instead of giving them a child hood, it was all about winning and too young for that kind of a world, kids should be let develop naturally and be kids,
Could have been some one that took a unhealthy liking to her, as she was too much on the public stage as are others her age

There have been documents made that point towards the brother which the parents covered up

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1. Isabella Stewart Gardner heist ($10m reward!!)

2. Teresa Halbach

3. Maddie McCann

pc7

After listening to the podcast on casefile the other week it would be the Beaumont Children in Australia, their poor parents are still alive. I'd love if they could get some peace before they go.

yourdeadwright

NATLOR wrote: »

Philip Cairns
Raonaid Murray
Madeline Macann

Raonaid Murray will never be solved ,
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Or then again could be nonsense,

Jimbob1977

The Yuba City Boys

Five men (with various mental conditions) leave an American Football match in California.

Somehow they end up on a freezing mountain road that's nowhere near their town. Their car is found in good working order and fuelled up. Its tyres were under a few inches of snow, but investigators said it was easy for 5 men to clear it.

One of them starves and/or freezes to death in a log cabin that contained loads of food and fuel. The other men's remains are scattered around the mountain road.

Other than that.... JFK and Madeleine McCann

gozunda

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

The Yuba City Boys

Five men (with various mental conditions) leave an American Football match in California.

Somehow they end up on a freezing mountain road that's nowhere near their town. Their car is found in good working order and fuelled up. Its tyres were under a few inches of snow, but investigators said it was easy for 5 men to clear it.

One of them starves and/or freezes to death in a log cabin that contained loads of food and fuel. The other men's remains are scattered around the mountain road.

Other than that.... JFK and Madeleine McCann

I was thinking of those Yubba murders which occurred in 1978 . A very strange strange story tbh.

Also within roughly the same geographic area - the Keddie murders.

An unsolved 1981 American quadruple homicide that occurred in Keddie, a rundown rural resort town in the Sierra Nevada of northern California.

The murders occurred in a cabin community in a mountain area and included a mother, a number of her children and one of the children's friend. Other children who were asleep survived. One of the murdered children remained a missing person until 1984 when a skull and several other bones were recovered many miles from the murder scene.

Multiple leads and suspects were examined in the intervening years, though no charges were filed. In 2004, the cabin in which the murders occurred was demolished.

8-10

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Raonaid Murray will never be solved ,
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Or then again could be nonsense,

Actually that one would be on my list too, I knew her father at the time. Horrific thing to happen and very mysterious circumstances

chicorytip

The disappearance of Alpho O' Reilly in 1996. He was the former head of design in RTE who vanished without trace.

tommythecat

chicorytip wrote: »

The disappearance of Alpho O' Reilly in 1996. He was the former head of design in RTE who vanished without trace.

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Boom_Bap

No discussion of Irish cases please

tommythecat

Boom_Bap wrote: »

No discussion of Irish cases please

Eek! Sorry!! Should I delete my post?

Boom_Bap

tommythecat wrote: »

Eek! Sorry!! Should I delete my post?

no need, I've edited it

Minnie Snuggles

The three cases I would like to see solved are
Natalie Holloway, missing in Aruba.
Madeline McCann
JonBonet Ramsey.

Minnie Snuggles

I want to add another one, what exactly happened to Caylee Anthony.

Suckler

Minnie Snuggles wrote: »

I want to add another one, what exactly happened to Caylee Anthony.

I'd say her mother (I use that word loosely) is the only one to know the detail...

huiwe878778

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Raonaid Murray will never be solved ,
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Or then again could be nonsense,

Watch the documentary 'Rainy in Glenageary'

Lady Spangles

I'm just watching a BBC doc about Jill Dando (marking the 20th anniversary of her murder). It amazes me that this case was never solved, given the circumstances. Someone shot dead in broad daylight, on her own doorstep, in the middle of a residential street in London. The police scapegoating the local weirdo didn't help, of course. Had they not done that, they could have solved this case. Now I don't think they ever will.

chicorytip

Lady Spangles wrote:

I'm just watching a BBC doc about Jill Dando (marking the 20th anniversary of her murder). It amazes me that this case was never solved, given the circumstances. Someone shot dead in broad daylight, on her own doorstep, in the middle of a residential street in London. The police scapegoating the local weirdo didn't help, of course. Had they not done that, they could have solved this case. Now I don't think they ever will.

I think they got the right man, Barry George. All the evidence points to his guilt and his appeal was upheld on the most flimsy of grounds - that the gunpowder residue discovered in his coat pocket may not have been there as a result of him recently having used a firearm. He was acquitted on that basis. In the twenty years since - despite all the crackpot conspiracy theories surrounding the case - not one shred of hard evidence has been unearthed to link any other individual or group to the killing. George, by the way, is now living in Cork City.

chicorytip

huiwe878778 wrote:

Watch the documentary 'Rainy in Glenageary'

I did, last night. The makers seem to believe they know the real culprit - dropping heavy hints as to what his current address and occupation are - based on information gleaned from an interview with a retired detective who worked on the case and an anonymous online tip off. Make of that what you will.This individual was regarded as the chief suspect in the early days of the investigation but no charges were ever brought against (him).

dubstarr

huiwe878778 wrote: »

Watch the documentary 'Rainy in Glenageary'

I tried but the woman doing the voiceover is doing my head in.Shes very dreary

8-10

chicorytip wrote: »

The makers seem to believe they know the real culprit - dropping heavy hints as to what his current address and occupation are

What hints did they give?

chicorytip

8-10 wrote:

What hints did they give?

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Hoboo

dubstarr wrote: »

I tried but the woman doing the voiceover is doing my head in.Shes very dreary

Sounds like she's reading a junior cert students essay, it's bloody awful.

8-10

chicorytip wrote: »

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Wow that's very interesting. I know that area very well and hadn't heard that bit, I'll watch the documentary

chicorytip

Hoboo wrote:

Sounds like she's reading a junior cert students essay, it's bloody awful.

The accompanying soundtrack seems inappropriate also - a kind of upbeat, happy sounding guitar music - considering the gloomy subject matter.

xalot

For me it's William Tyrell, probably because he reminds me of my own son.

I'm not sure if they'll ever find out what happened to him, due to no evidence and the fact that he was in foster care meant that they were very limited in what information could be released to the public.

I'd like to believe his real parents are hiding him somewhere but unfortunately I dont think that's the case.

Diemos

I liked it (Rainy in Glenageary), thought it would work better as a podcast as opposed to someone crushing as many photos as they can into an app to alter them and then pass it off as a movie. I thought the narrator did a good job.

huiwe878778

chicorytip wrote: »

I did, last night. The makers seem to believe they know the real culprit - dropping heavy hints as to what his current address and occupation are - based on information gleaned from an interview with a retired detective who worked on the case and an anonymous online tip off. Make of that what you will.This individual was regarded as the chief suspect in the early days of the investigation but no charges were ever brought against (him).

No, I don't remember the documentary making any reference to that suspect's current address - but it definitely gave me the impression two of the suspects knew each other, which wasn't something I had considered before.

Also, didn't it say at the beginning of the film that friends of the victim were also sources?

tommythecat

I watched this doc and I must have missed something in it. What is at the end of the road she goes to at the end. Who lived there?