Top ten places that suck.

Franz Von Peppercorn

murpho999 wrote: »

In no particular order:

Trinity College
Book of Kells
Christchurch Cathedral
Dublin Castle
Phoenix Park
GPO
St Patrick's Cathedral
The National Gallery
The National Library
Chester Beatty Library
National Botanic Gardens
Marsh's Library
Kimainham Jail
Richmond Barracks
Collin's Barracks National Museurm
The Little Museum of Dublin



There's tons of stuff to see and do in Dublin.

And you haven’t left the inner city yet, and visited howth, Dalkey etc. Or taken a bay cruise. Or kite surfed on bull island. Or visited newgrange.

Frankly city tours aren’t always about a city. I met a group of young American tourists in their twenties in howth last year who on a 4 day trip from London (where two of them worked) were having a great time in Dublin, including howth itself, the Wicklow mountains, the city centre ... and the day trip to the game of thrones sets.

Only one full day in the centre then and the latter is in a different country of course but it’s a 2 hour ish bus trip. Like going to Vegas and visiting the canyon. Every night was spent in Dublin.

endacl

Kneemos watches Top Ten list videos on YouTube.

He comes out of this thread worse than Dublin.

wakka12

He didnt say Dublin sucked, he said it was fun and beautiful and historic but just not worth the insane prices, which I agree with

Dublin has a lot going for it but the prices are crazy, theres so many other great places in europe to visit for so much more affordable prices, I dont get how dublin has such a booming tourist industry

tonycascarino

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

We find it way too easy to bash our own places. There are much much more worse places to visit in Europe never mind the world.

Dublin is grand to visit but crap to live in.

MikeyTaylor

tonycascarino wrote: »

Dublin is grand to visit but crap to live in.

Totally agree!

wakka12

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Couldnt call any of those fantastic, amazing, or great.
Compared to other cities (there must be dozens of cities even just in Europe that are easily more interesting), Dublin has little to recommend it. I would never suggest to foreigners to visit it, and even when some work colleagues from abroad are here and looking for advice on what to see around Dublin, its a bit embarrassing how there is so little for them to see or do.
Having said that, its not a bad city to live in, but for tourism, I would rate it right down there with the likes of Birmingham or Stuttgart.

I think you dont know anything about Dublin tbh if you think that. Did you take advantage of the any of the many hundreds of fascinating places around the city open this weekend for open house? And yes theres plenty more interesting cities across europe but think about how many cities in the americas and asia that are completely soulless concrete jungles, thats what most poeples lives are like, so dublin is an interesting city by world standards, maybe just average in west european context, which is a high standard

Arghus

I've only been to five locations in my life.

They were all fairly nice.

wakka12

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

I regularly meet my German girlfriend in Dublin for a weekend or a few days and have had very enjoyable weekends. For me coming from Clare the price of drink in the tourist areas is a joke but I’m fairly used to it having been to the likes of Oslo and Paris which are pretty much double what you pay in Dublin.

Plenty to do and see in Dublin.
Bike ride around Phoenix Park
Glasnevin cemetery and botanical gardens
Epic immigration museum
Kilmainom Gaol
Little museum of Dublin.

We find it way too easy to bash our own places. There are much much more worse places to visit in Europe never mind the world.

Theres a lot of underrated gems around Dublin, I just got to visit Mckee barracks yesterday on a guided tour, a huge perfectly preserved barracks complex dating from late 19th C, and probably most people in Dublin never even heard of it, just one example, but dublin has many other really interesting buildings and historic sites that are not well known at all

Its by phoenix park

Dublin has a fascinating history, and much of it still survives today

Franz Von Peppercorn

tonycascarino wrote: »

Dublin is grand to visit but crap to live in.

That’s closer to the truth.

namloc1980

O'Connell Street is a complete kip. And DCC with their weird intolerance of tall buildings has made a complete low rise mess of the docklands renewal with row after row of glass 4-6 storey glass boxes with literally 1 or 2 exceptions. It's the strange vibe on the street that puts me off Dublin the most. Probably all the scrotes and junkies hanging around.

wakka12

Nearly every building in the docks is 8-10 stories, usually with two setbacks so its not that obvious
Theres zero buildings under 4 stories in the entire docks other than some of the preserved old buildings
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3457532,-6.2380676,3a,75y,211.9h,104.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smeNBwRZ0l7WPSlK4WCacsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Cienciano

DareGod wrote: »

I was surprised that the reason behind Dublin sucking wasn't that it's filthy, dark, and wet with streets filled with drug addicts, homeless people and beggars. Being expensive is the least of it's turn-offs.

And it's still that easy to get a load of likes from culchies. Just mention "Dublin" and "junkies" in the same sentence, I think they're bots at this stage

Faith+1

namloc1980 wrote: »

O'Connell Street is a complete kip. And DCC with their weird intolerance of tall buildings has made a complete low rise mess of the docklands renewal with row after row of glass 4-6 storey glass boxes with literally 1 or 2 exceptions. It's the strange vibe on the street that puts me off Dublin the most. Probably all the scrotes and junkies hanging around.

+1 Always feel on edge walking around in Dublin especially when it gets dark.

blanch152

wakka12 wrote: »

Nearly every building in the docks is 8-10 stories, usually with two setbacks so its not that obvious
Theres zero buildings under 4 stories in the entire docks other than some of the preserved old buildings
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3457532,-6.2380676,3a,75y,211.9h,104.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smeNBwRZ0l7WPSlK4WCacsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They should all be at least double their current height. No reason why not.

namloc1980

wakka12 wrote: »

Nearly every building in the docks is 8-10 stories, usually with two setbacks so its not that obvious
Theres zero buildings under 4 stories in the entire docks other than some of the preserved old buildings
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3457532,-6.2380676,3a,75y,211.9h,104.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smeNBwRZ0l7WPSlK4WCacsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Setbacks are another stupid architectural feature very common in Ireland

fancy pigeon

wakka12 wrote: »

Theres a lot of underrated gems around Dublin, I just got to visit Mckee barracks yesterday on a guided tour....

Have you tried Cathal Brugha barracks yet?

bonzodog2

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

In no particular order...

1) New Ross, Co. Wexford
2) Ballingeary, Co. Cork
3) Kilrush, Co. Clare
4) All of West Dublin
5) Tipperary Town
6) Courtown, Co. Wexford
7) Ballyhea, Co. Cork
8) Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
9) Castleisland, Co. Kerry
10) Roscrea, Co. Tipperary

Were you expecting something in particular from Ballyhea and were disappointed?

facehugger99

Dublin is a grand place to live when you're young but once you start a family, it's terrible.

I'd hate to be raising my kids in a 3-bed semi with a tiny garden and a long drive to get anywhere nice.

judestynes

The only thing Dublin had going for it was it's character and thats been sold to the highest bidder so it's got absolutely fxxk all going for it now. Only surprised it's not higher up the list.

kneemos

wakka12 wrote: »

Nearly every building in the docks is 8-10 stories, usually with two setbacks so its not that obvious
Theres zero buildings under 4 stories in the entire docks other than some of the preserved old buildings
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3457532,-6.2380676,3a,75y,211.9h,104.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smeNBwRZ0l7WPSlK4WCacsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They all look 4_6 stories. Dunno what your seeing

wakka12

kneemos wrote: »

They all look 4_6 stories. Dunno what your seeing

What it looks is irrelevant, they look shorter than they are because the buildings are wide and have setbacks, go and count the floors and tell me how many 4 story buildings you see, there are none, most new buildings are 7-10 stories at least

Could easily support much taller buildings along the waterfront but saying everything in docks is 4 story boxes is stupid hyperbole

kneemos

wakka12 wrote: »

What it looks is irrelevant, they look shorter than they are because the buildings are wide, go and count the floors and tell me how many 4 story buildings you see, there are none

There's literally loads. A ground floor and four floors in top.

wakka12

fancy pigeon wrote: »

Have you tried Cathal Brugha barracks yet?

Yep saw that the year before for open house . Its not as interesting as Mckee barracks historically or architecturally though

Church on Tuesday

Patww79 wrote: »

It is. Can't go a few yards without some filthy scobe hassling you for a hostel or some other ****e. It's a poisonous kip.

You'll get that in Eyre Square in Galway too.

This is really not just a Dublin problem.

grindle

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

You'll get that in Eyre Square in Galway too.

This is really not just a Dublin problem.

I don't think anyone's saying junkies only exist in Dublin, it's about quantity, concentration in an area and persistence - Dublin junkies seem a bit more desperate, more likely to plead and walk alongside you.

People defending Dublin like it's the same as anywhere else probably live in the suburbs and don't spend a lot of time in the city - reminds me of a conversation with my parents where they thought Limerick was graaaaand through the 90s and 00s - of course they thought it was lovely, they rarely left the comfort of their home!
Having lived in the city I got to see first-hand how scummy, violent and quasi-lawless it was at times.

murpho999

facehugger99 wrote: »

Dublin is a grand place to live when you're young but once you start a family, it's terrible.

I'd hate to be raising my kids in a 3-bed semi with a tiny garden and a long drive to get anywhere nice.

Instead of hopping on a Dart and going to Howth, Malahide, Dublin Bay, Bray, Greystones, Dalkey etc..

I'd hate to live in the countryside, people have to drive everywhere and it seems to make them bigoted, bitter and ill-informed.

Healy Rae Syndrome.

happyoutscan

murpho999 wrote: »

I'd hate to live in the countryside, people have to drive everywhere and it seems to make them bigoted, bitter and ill-informed.

Healy Rae Syndrome.

Quite a pathetic offering.

murpho999

happyoutscan wrote: »

Quite a pathetic offering.

Not really, an awful lot of exaggerated untruths have been posted here.

Church on Tuesday

grindle wrote: »

I don't think anyone's saying junkies only exist in Dublin, it's about quantity, concentration in an area and persistence - Dublin junkies seem a bit more desperate, more likely to plead and walk alongside you.

People defending Dublin like it's the same as anywhere else probably live in the suburbs and don't spend a lot of time in the city - reminds me of a conversation with my parents where they thought Limerick was graaaaand through the 90s and 00s - of course they thought it was lovely, they rarely left the comfort of their home!
Having lived in the city I got to see first-hand how scummy, violent and quasi-lawless it was at times.

Well you can expect to see messed up stuff in large urban areas. Cities, big and small, tend to be something of a melting pot for all kinds of social strata.

I lived in Galway for years and saw some seriously dodgy things happen on the street and surrounds, often during the day time. And that's just Galway. Same when I lived in Manchester.

If you don't want to see junkies and violence don't live in or near a city, if you do wish to live, study and work in a city, have some common sense, avoid the obvious dodge areas and 99.9 percent of the time you will be grand.

Some people go on here like Dublin is like New York was in the 70s and 80s.

Hurrache

Dublin is great in fairness.

corner of hells

grindle wrote: »

I don't think anyone's saying junkies only exist in Dublin, it's about quantity, concentration in an area and persistence - Dublin junkies seem a bit more desperate, more likely to plead and walk alongside you.

People defending Dublin like it's the same as anywhere else probably live in the suburbs and don't spend a lot of time in the city - reminds me of a conversation with my parents where they thought Limerick was graaaaand through the 90s and 00s - of course they thought it was lovely, they rarely left the comfort of their home!
Having lived in the city I got to see first-hand how scummy, violent and quasi-lawless it was at times.

So Dublin "junkies" are more specialised ?
Compared to say London "junkies" or Limerick ones ?

corner of hells

Hurrache wrote: »

Dublin is great in fairness.

Dublin rocks , I fcukin love it.

wakka12

grindle wrote: »

I don't think anyone's saying junkies only exist in Dublin, it's about quantity, concentration in an area and persistence - Dublin junkies seem a bit more desperate, more likely to plead and walk alongside you.

People defending Dublin like it's the same as anywhere else probably live in the suburbs and don't spend a lot of time in the city - reminds me of a conversation with my parents where they thought Limerick was graaaaand through the 90s and 00s - of course they thought it was lovely, they rarely left the comfort of their home!
Having lived in the city I got to see first-hand how scummy, violent and quasi-lawless it was at times.

Is that so? Ive never had junkies come up and shout in my face in Dublin or swipe my phone out out of my hand like I did in vancouver, or prositutes in dublin come up and shove ther hands downs your pants like in barcelona,or gypsies and annoying salespeople constantly pester at you for money and trying to scam you like in paris or london, dublin is tame compared to a lot of europe, never mind the world which is mostly a ****hole

and I really really really think anyone who thinks dublin is a ****hole with regards anti social behaviour has seen extremely little of the world outside of a few western tourist and upperclass areas

Dublin does have many problems such as transport, expense, housing and homelessness(though its a different kind of homelessness to most places) and theres actual statistics to prove that, but dublin is not unsafe at all, its a safe city by world standards, youre just wrong if you think its a dangeous and anti social place

Franz Von Peppercorn

grindle wrote: »

I don't think anyone's saying junkies only exist in Dublin, it's about quantity, concentration in an area and persistence - Dublin junkies seem a bit more desperate, more likely to plead and walk alongside you.

People defending Dublin like it's the same as anywhere else probably live in the suburbs and don't spend a lot of time in the city - reminds me of a conversation with my parents where they thought Limerick was graaaaand through the 90s and 00s - of course they thought it was lovely, they rarely left the comfort of their home!
Having lived in the city I got to see first-hand how scummy, violent and quasi-lawless it was at times.

I work in the north inner city and it’s fine. There’s a few Junkies on Talbot St who shout at clouds.

Franz Von Peppercorn

murpho999 wrote: »

Instead of hopping on a Dart and going to Howth, Malahide, Dublin Bay, Bray, Greystones, Dalkey etc..

I'd hate to live in the countryside, people have to drive everywhere and it seems to make them bigoted, bitter and ill-informed.

Healy Rae Syndrome.

Easier if you are close to the dart. The problem in Dublin is always traffic. We should have four underground lines at this stage.

snotboogie

facehugger99 wrote: »

Dublin is a grand place to live when you're young but once you start a family, it's terrible.

I'd hate to be raising my kids in a 3-bed semi with a tiny garden and a long drive to get anywhere nice.

I would much rather raise children and grow old near schools, universities, hospitals, public transportation and within walking distance of shops, sports facilities and cafe's. The McMansion lifestyle seems good when children are babies but when you spend half your life ferrying them around to schools and activities on top of your commute, followed by shelling out massive accommodation fee's for them to go to college in a city, followed by yourself needing to drive half the country to get to a decent hospital to being completely isolated as you become less mobile in your old age it’s not as sweet

fleet_admiral

Patww79 wrote: »

Arkla, Co.Wickla.

Well, laaad