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Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

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    #8342
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 36,340 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    theguzman wrote: »
    The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

    :rolleyes:

    Terms like "bullying" are so inappropriate, but we live in an era of emotional language I suppose. The right words are "leverage", "negotiation", "incentives".


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    #8343
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭briany


    UK trying to exit the EU is like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer got his arm stuck in the vending machine, and it turned out that he was really just holding on to the soda can the whole time.


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    #8344
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,395 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Bercow giving the Govn't a bollocking. He basically demands the Govn't put the motion to postpone the vote to the House.


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    #8345
    Tropheus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    theguzman wrote: »
    The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

    Trade is a numbers game. The UK has little or no leverage here.


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    #8346
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,306 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    UsBus wrote: »
    Having listened to her speech, (complete rambling) it really looks like she is going through the motions to buy time.. I really think she doesn't care now, she just wants to get Brexit through, get to March 29th and take off into the sunset... it's cringing what they are at now...
    Honestly I expect her to contest any leadership contest even after March 29th; the claim will be to "Make sure UK comes out best possible", "Not abandoning duty in UKs darkest hour" etc. The scary part is she's likely to have a good chance of winning as well seeing who her opponents are...


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    #8347
    2ygb4cmqetsjhx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭2ygb4cmqetsjhx


    1€ = 0,91£ just now after the speech and still going down. Theresa May shouldn't talk.


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    #8348
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Who's the guy on Ken Clarke's right side. Looks like the kind of guy who possibly still owns slaves.


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    #8349
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Bercow now suggesting that there should be a vote on delaying the vote.

    Gotta laugh really at how silly this is becoming.


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    #8350
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 45,594 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Sensible contribution from Ken Clarke, saying it's folly that the British could have a unilateral right to end the open border, which is why a backstop is necessary.


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    #8351
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    devnull wrote: »
    Bercow now suggesting that there should be a vote on delaying the vote.

    Gotta laugh really at how silly this is becoming.

    TBF Bercow is probably the best speaker they have had in years so they should listen to him.


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    #8352
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Getting worse by the minute


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    #8353
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 19,065 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Sensible contribution from Ken Clarke, saying it's folly that the British could have a unilateral right to end the open border, which is why a backstop is necessary.

    Imagine if he'd been leader instead of Howard...


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    #8354
    UsBus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Jayde Incalculable Firearm wrote: »
    1€ = 0,91£ just now after the speech and still going down. Theresa May shouldn't talk.

    Just seen this now alright....Wondering if I should order some sterling this eve...


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    #8355
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I wish they'd stop with this right honourable bull****.


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    #8356
    Rjd2
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Imagine if he'd been leader instead of Howard...

    Didn't he lose to IDM also? Looking back that was a huge miss for them, although to be fair Clarke iirc did run a pretty shoddy campaign.


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    #8357
    Shelga
    Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”


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    #8358
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,395 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Bercow is embarrassing the Govn't into having a vote.


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    #8359
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Imagine even the Ulster Farmers on the orange hills of East Antrim,
    will be starting to look through investment brochures of lucrative, stable, cattle farming
    way over in Argentina, before this charade is played out.


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    #8360
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,374 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Shelga wrote: »
    Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”

    just parlour games to a lot of these lads


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    #8361
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    May has given a strong hint there that she wants to effectively cut N. Ireland adrift


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    #8362
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Shelga wrote: »
    Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”

    The Attorney General was far worse.


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    #8363
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 45,594 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Interesting response from May there to Iain Duncan Smith. Said renegotiating the WA would result in new things on the table, including an NI-specific customs arrangement.

    Is it possible May will now seek to offload the DUP altogether by looking to renegotiate to the original backstop that was proposed last December?


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    #8364
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Interesting response from May there to Iain Duncan Smith. Said renegotiating the WA would result in new things on the table, including an NI-specific customs arrangement.

    Is it possible May will now seek to offload the DUP altogether by looking to renegotiate to the original backstop that was proposed last December?

    As usual, the obvious is being missed by the Tories. Renegotiation isn't a one way street.


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    #8365
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 19,065 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    May has given a sting hint there that she wants to effectively cut N. Ireland adrift

    How so?


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    #8366
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Suppose this comedy act from the Torys is good for the EU, it will delay the Italians from leaving, by at least a couple of years.


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    #8367
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Tony Connelly has an interesting take on it.

    https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1072158171534450688


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    #8368
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Going back to the public would lead to a lack of faith in the government?

    Hah, bit too late for that PM :D


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    #8369
    Rjd2
    Registered Users Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Water John wrote: »
    Bercow is embarrassing the Govn't into having a vote.

    A lot of bad blood between him and the front bench so obviously going to have some fun with this. He and Leadsom absolutely loath each other.
    The ERG, SNP, Labour and 2nd vote people are reveling in this craziness.


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    #8370
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    How so?

    I am speaking in terms of the hard border down the Irish sea

    she gave a strong hint that she might be prepared to make that concession, tell the DUP to F off and hope to find support from another source


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    #8371
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    Dear lord..... Dennis Skinner HATES the EU..........


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