Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

Headshot

Im delighted she's saying in power

I would of ****ing love to see the look on Jacob Rees-Mogg tonight

Rub it in his face

Topgear on Dave

200 to 117

The party has confidence in the leader.

Water John

117 big enough, margin 83. Over one third, wounded.

Larbre34

Headshot wrote: »

Im delighted she's saying in power

I would of ****ing love to see the look on Jacob Rees-Mogg tonight

Rub it in his face

I'm guessing quite a collection of news organisations will be pursuing him for just that.

EdgeCase

Party is badly split.
I wouldn't really be reading any kind of amazing stability coming from that

Humour Me

He’s on BBC right now!!

Professor Moriarty

Not many of that 117 will vote for her deal though.

tuxy

Water John wrote: »

117 big enough, margin 83. Over one third, wounded.

Large enough to cause more chaos not large enough for her to even consider stepping down.

funkey_monkey

So, is this a good result for her?

For Forks Sake

Larbre34 wrote: »

I'm guessing quite a collection of news organisations will be pursuing him for just that.

He's popped up on BBC1

devnull

Water John wrote: »

117 big enough, margin 83. Over one third.

A massive mandate for Theresa May there*

* based on the definition of a majority of 4% being a clear mandate as based on the ERG saying so about Brexit.

If the ERG come out and say it's not enough, they are a bunch of hypocrites.

Folkstonian

seamus wrote: »

They completely screwed her over. Allowed her to hold an independence referendum, campaigned against her with the Trump card of EU membership, and then turned around and left the EU.

All of Scotland hates the Tories. They have continually treated Scotland as second class citizens and a burden. Sturgeon is merely representing her constituents.

All of Scotland hates the tories - except of course those who voted in 13 Conservative MPs at the last general election.

Shocking result for May in the ballot - one hundred votes against her is catastrophic I think.

I’d expect any other PM to resign. Theresa has a different outlook though, so all bets are off.

Larbre34

Water John wrote: »

117 big enough, margin 83. Over one third, wounded.

Not quite. 63.something. An Irish landslide if you will!

seamus

Water John wrote: »

117 big enough, margin 83. Over one third, wounded.

Wounded, but far from weakened. 63%. That's a strong and decisive victory in anyone's book.

Really only two options left on the table now. Theresa's deal or a General Election.

LuckyLloyd

funkey_monkey wrote: »

So, is this a good result for her?

She won't be going anywhere

tuxy

funkey_monkey wrote: »

So, is this a good result for her?

I think good enough for her to cling on just about. She's an expert at hanging on against the odds.

briany

Well, democracy has spoken. Will the ERG shut up? Will they hell.

Kermit.de.frog

briany wrote: »

Well, democracy has spoken. Will the ERG shut up? Will they hell.

Respect the vote...

murpho999

A result that will keep the Tory in-fighting going on.

Can't see how Brexit will get through.

Mr.Nice Guy

117 against is quite a lot. Was hoping it would be around 100 against at most.

She's not a cooked goose but she's truly a lame duck.

blackcard

Larbre34 wrote: »

Water John wrote: »

117 big enough, margin 83. Over one third, wounded.

Not quite. 63.something. An Irish landslide if you will!

The margin was 83, the percentage was 63%

UsedToWait

devnull wrote: »

What did you see/hear?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/18/the-chilling-undertones-of-andrew-neil-mad-cat-woman-tweet

devnull

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

117 against is quite a lot. Was hoping it would be around 100 against at most.

She's not a cooked goose but she's truly a lame duck.

63% backing her is a clear mandate if you consider that the ERG consider 52% is a clear mandate for Brexit.

EdgeCase

Well, now what we've got past that Tory naval gazing she still has to get this deal through parliament which looks extremely unlikely.

Water John

ERG emboldened. Her miscalculation was the Election. She should swivel to Lb and SNP votes, do a soft Brexit and feck the ERG.

gimli2112

JRM came up with some math that if you discount the MPs on her payroll she lost and it's a terrible result for her.

Akrasia

devnull wrote: »

63% backing her is a clear mandate if you consider that the ERG consider 52% is a clear mandate for Brexit.

Mogg was full of rationalisation just there on the BBC. Some majorities are more legitimate than others it seems.

funkey_monkey

So, now in the intervening time what does she do? Extension of A50 now seems likely. If the WA cannot be altered, what is the point? There is talk of the ports not being ready yet, but can anything politically be done to get this deal through.

Does anyone genuinely think that a second referendum is still on the table?


Also, today, the EU completed a major trade deal with Japan covering 1/3 of global GDP. We have 3 months to swap our cheese for a Lexus

Beechwoodspark

The Moggster in full spin cycle mode just now on bbc.

Mr.Nice Guy

The numbers against are way up on what was expected.

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1072959644925132809

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1072961055419236361