Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Brendan Bendar

sbsquarepants wrote: »

A socialist who brings his florist to Australia with him!

Last socialist I heard of doing something like that was Elton John!

Or am I mixing up socialist and pianist again:D

Well.... maybe he brought his friend Davey Furnish with him to ‘look after the stalks’, no harm there, but there is a major difference- Elton was paying out of his own resources.

Doubt if little Mickeleen was, nah J Q Taxpayer got stiffed for that jolly, one would suppose?

The Bishop Basher

Jackman25 wrote: »

If he does nothing else, Peter Casey is certainly pissing off some 33-carat knobs.
As you say - The "we in the media" comment as you say, says it all.

Quite a few veils appear to be slipping..

If Casey has done nothing else, he's certainly promoted open debate on a couple of topics that have been off limits up to now and he's shown the media and the establishment of this country up for the cosy little cartel that they are.

I get the feeling there's no going back from this. The stable door has been opened and it can't be shut again.

About time..

tayto lover

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'd agree. If he had dropped out at the weekend, I believe he still would have attracted a sizeable vote - just as a push back against the Dail-Rte-IT circle by having the audacity to call out traveller behaviour as he sees it.

There are a group here that think Casey is going to win, but they are going to be very let down on Saturday. Him polling well should be the most they can hope for, and that's far from guaranteed.

I'd say very few think he'll win but he did say what people were thinking and he will do well for that fact alone.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

Morning Ireland’s It Says In The Papers slot said it all. “When all the shyting is over”.

Heard it Mary, was on the ‘pan’ at the time as it turned out.

Got a sudden ‘surge’ and ‘released’ with the laughing

Poor girl made a hash of it but managed to continue, fair play to her.

sbsquarepants

Rennaws wrote: »

Quite a few veils appear to be slipping..

If Casey has done nothing else, he's certainly promoted open debate on a couple of topics that have been off limits up to now and he's shown the media and the establishment of this country up for the cosy little cartel that they are.

I get the feeling there's no going back from this. The stable door has been opened and it can't be shut again.

About time..

Long overdue, but I wouldn't be as optimistic as you about it actually happening. There's nothing independent about the Irish media, it's very much guided opinions rather than fact. RTE is an embarrassment for anything bar sports, and they've even started to slip on that!

VinLieger

weldoninhio wrote: »

He stated clearly last night, that he doesn't run his twitter account.

It's verified therefore anything posted to it can be assumed is supported by him.

gmisk

weldoninhio wrote: »

He stated clearly last night, that he doesn't run his twitter account.

I thought he was all about technology?
Did he not pay for the creation of the ad?
Did he not repeat that 10k figure for dog grooming (which is BS) at one of the debates?
Come on now...

tayto lover

The auld debates are pure drivel but I love the bit of slating and mind speak.
Are there any more planned?

Edward M

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I see the 'I cannot debate the current issue let's get SF into the argument' crew have arrived. Welcome Brendy - sleep well?

That's a funny one too, a SF candidate who isn't using her party logo in her campaign literature, why is that?

ohnonotgmail

Edward M wrote: »

That's a funny one too, a SF candidate who isn't using her party logo in her campaign literature, why is that?

I love that she was pulled up on her "i only take home the average industrial wage" crap

MrMusician18

Edward M wrote: »

That's a funny one too, a SF candidate who isn't using her party logo in her campaign literature, why is that?

Is it the same one that's on the average industrial wage of €70k?

weldoninhio

sbsquarepants wrote: »

He's getting my vote and that's exactly why.

I don't think he'll win, I hope he'll get enough votes for a few other politicians to sit up and take note that enough is enough when it comes to pandering to these parasites.

I'm not saying we should gas them, just that they should be treated exactly the same as I am!

The fact that they are up in arms at such a suggestion (when any other "oppressed" group in the world would be jumping for joy at the suggestion) just shows they know full well how society bends over backwards to accommodate their shy "culture".

That's racist nowadays apparently.

Fann Linn

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Is it the same one that's on the average industrial wage of €70k?

The very one, who gets the messy stuff outa way like taxes, insurance etc etc and is still on the minimum wage.

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I see the 'I cannot debate the current issue let's get SF into the argument' crew have arrived. Welcome Brendy - sleep well?

Never mentioned SF Francie, just comparing your M.O. and the conflicting oxymorons which seem to arise in both examples given.

Hope that’s all right with yourself.

sbsquarepants

weldoninhio wrote: »

That's racist nowadays apparently.

It is according Pavee Point anyway.......but then again what isn't!

Benzino

weldoninhio wrote: »

He stated clearly last night, that he doesn't run his twitter account.

So are you saying he doesn't support the video posted on his official Twitter account?

weldoninhio

Benzino wrote: »

So are you saying he doesn't support the video posted on his official Twitter account?

I haven't mentioned the video so i've said nothing about his support or lack of support of it.

I don't know if he supports it, i've no psychic ability to mindmeld with Peter and assess his thoughts (on this video or anything else), he may have told him media team to do whatever they thought was best for the campaign. Unfortunately he was never asked about it last night.

Floppybits

weldoninhio wrote: »

That's racist nowadays apparently.

Ah sure isn't everything racist nowadays, sneeze the wrong way or fart the wrong way and you can be called a racist.

The fact is that as a society we need to have an open and honest discussion around alot of things in this country and the traveler situation is one of them. The way I see things is if that there has to be give and take on both sides but from what I can see and this is my opinion, there seems to be a lot more taking from one side than that side are giving.

Also if I wanted to up sticks and join the traveler community, can I do that? Would I be accepted?

blanch152

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'd agree. If he had dropped out at the weekend, I believe he still would have attracted a sizeable vote - just as a push back against the Dail-Rte-IT circle by having the audacity to call out traveller behaviour as he sees it.

There are a group here that think Casey is going to win, but they are going to be very let down on Saturday. Him polling well should be the most they can hope for, and that's far from guaranteed.

I haven't seen any serious poster suggest that Casey is going to win.


He was on 2% before his comments, it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

Floppybits

blanch152 wrote: »

He was on 2% before his comments, it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

What percentage of the vote that Casey gets is probably the only thing that is interesting in this election?

blanch152

Floppybits wrote: »

What percentage of the vote that Casey gets is probably the only thing that is interesting in this election?

I agree, and the likes of Renua should be watching that space carefully. If he gets up to 10%, then there is a clear gap for a political party to move into.

Benzino

weldoninhio wrote: »

I haven't mentioned the video so i've said nothing about his support or lack of support of it.

I don't know if he supports it, i've no psychic ability to mindmeld with Peter and assess his thoughts (on this video or anything else), he may have told him media team to do whatever they thought was best for the campaign. Unfortunately he was never asked about it last night.

You quoted my post about the video I never mentioned he ran his Twitter account, don't know why your are bringing that up so.

By the way, of course he supports it, it's on his official, verified Twitter account. Plus somebody had to pay for it. Unless of course he has no knowledge or control over what his team posts, which would be more concerning.

jjmcclure

The most unelectable of them all is Liadh Ní Riada. My god what a po-faced self righteous pain in the arse.

LuckyLloyd

The Presidential position doesn't matter until it does. At a time of constitutional crisis it could be absolutely vital that we have in place a level headed person of complete integrity who understands the constitution and is willing and able to take all of the advice available to him.

That makes Freeman or Ni Riada the best candidates in all honesty. Michael D has come across as a liar, let's be blunt about it. Well spoken and with a great grasp of the constitution no doubt, but he hasn't come across as a man of integrity throughout this process. Casey is onto something but I'd wonder about his bona fides when it came to the crunch. The dragon collective are shysters.

I don't really want to vote for any of them so I don't know. MDH will probably sail in and that will be that, but this campaign has certainly sullied his legacy.

tom1ie

Lara Green Nun wrote: »

Finally

http://www.thejournal.ie/presidential-election-2-4302454-Oct2018/

31% for mr Casey.
If he ends up with anywhere near that vote it would be a great success. Hopefully he’ll go into mainstream politics and put himself up for election. With a bit of fine tuning he’d easily get himself elected. We just need to get a few more like him elected and then the people who actually work in this country might start to see a reasonable return on their tax in the form of proper services and value for money.
Not the current mess of throwing money at people who don’t appreciate it, but actually laugh in your face while they grab their CASH.

Wanderer78

tom1ie wrote:

31% for mr Casey. If he ends up with anywhere near that vote it would be a great success. Hopefully he’ll go into mainstream politics and put himself up for election. With a bit of fine tuning he’d easily get himself elected. We just need to get a few more like him elected and then the people who actually work in this country might start to see a reasonable return on their tax in the form of proper services and value for money. Not the current mess of throwing money at people who don’t appreciate it, but actually laugh in your face while they grab their CASH.

Haven't heard him critise the financial and corporate sectors, but you could be right!

ohnonotgmail

He certainly seems very good at kicking down. Not that he actually offers any solutions mind. That would involve actual effort.

tom1ie

tom1ie wrote: »

31% for mr Casey.
If he ends up with anywhere near that vote it would be a great success. Hopefully he’ll go into mainstream politics and put himself up for election. With a bit of fine tuning he’d easily get himself elected. We just need to get a few more like him elected and then the people who actually work in this country might start to see a reasonable return on their tax in the form of proper services and value for money.
Not the current mess of throwing money at people who don’t appreciate it, but actually laugh in your face while they grab their CASH.

You can tell by the cesspit comments at the bottom that the Journal is heavily skewed towards Casey

tom1ie

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Haven't heard him critise the financial and corporate sectors, but you could be right!

It remains to be seen if he will. That’s a much more delicate subject, with regards to multi-nationals, they employ 10’s of 1000’s who pay tax, the company’s pay a certain amount of tax anyway, probably not enough.
The low hanging fruit with this regard would be the fact the banks haven’t paid any tax since the crash even though they are back to making obscene amounts of profit.
But anyway I digress, he’s called out sections of our population that have been abusing the system for too long. The media, politicians and our pc brigade, like francie, didn’t want to acknowledge this and just bury their heads in the sand, but peter has called them out on it.

McMurphy

Can someone clear up a bit of a mind fcuk that has me all confussed here.

If travellers are encouraged to intermarry other travellers, and marrying settled folk is generally discouraged, is that discriminatory or a racist or bigoted trait?

If us Irish, who are generally white Caucasian folk, frowned upon our sons and daughters marrying from outside our own fellow Irish people gene pool, would that be seen as racist or bigoted?

If a person comes out as being homosexual and is disowned or ostracized within their own communities, is that considered bigotry?

If peter casey says every Irish person in the state should be defined as an Irish citizen first and foremost, treated equally, and granting one a special status a nonsense racist or bigoted?


I would go so far as to say, it's the racist/bigoted people who are screaming racist accusations the loudest.