Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Plumbthedepths

Brendan Bendar wrote:

Sure.

Somehow I think you'll be sorry for engaging.

anthonyjmaher

I know a lot of people who are on here are delighted that Casey got 20% but I'm genuinely more disappointed that so many people who voted for Higgins. Higgins is the epitomie of everything that is wrong with this country. Preaches socialism to the masses while at the same time himself becoming a millionaire from a life of living off the public purse.

dav3

Well, as the sockpuppets and astroturfers drag themselves out of bed with tears streaming down their faces. It's important to remember that for those of you living in Ireland, the majority of people you talk to and interact with today voted for Michael D Higgins. 8 out of 10 people didn't vote for Casey.

The silent majority wins again.

Plumbthedepths

Must say very impressed with P.C.s vote 1 to just over 20 per cent in a few weeks. Also amused at how many people in this country who have no clue what racism is, what bigotry means . Like funny every time a poster who claimed Casey was racist disappeared when asked to explain how Casey was racist. Anyway the most telling is i didn't read one post where a voter for Casey claimed he would win. The vote is a protest against the bs in this country. Example the guy sitting on his backside at home on the rock and roll gets an extra 5 euro. On average most workers gained less than a fiver. Screwed up Casey was right to call out the SW bs.
Well done MDH, hopefully you'll get to serve the whole term.

Deiselurker

Peter Casey's increase in vote shows how out of touch the political establishment and liberal media are with many people's views. You can see the frustration on here and social media over traveller crime, Margaret Cash and the Thurles homes being left empty at a time of a housing crisis. He was the only politician who dared to speak out. He was criticised and even called a racist for it by another candidate who finished well behind him but ended up doing better after all this.

mugsymugsy

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

Can someone give me a summary of Casey's policies?

It's the presidency they don't make policies. They shake hands / drink tea / have garden parties and cut ribbons to open places.

nice_guy80

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

bubblypop wrote: »

Why

Because that would have put a proper focus on travelers. More resources would have been pumped into keeping them in education etc.

There used to be special traveller teachers employed in schools
A lot of their time was devoted to visiting families to figure out why the kids weren't in school

nice_guy80

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

qwerty ui op wrote: »

I'm only pointing out the truth.

It not just me who thinks this, it's Casey and his team around him.

How do you honestly think this played out?

-poll numbers came in

- Casey sees he's polling last

-He gets angry probably ripps into members of his campaign team," Im not a efing loser ... I'm be damed, if I'm gonna be beaten by the other dragons..." his type are all that kinda ego stuff.

- member of his campaign team or someone close to casey comes up with a bright idea which is

-"what about all the racist and bigots, their always looking for someone to vote for look at Trump. You need to say something that you can defend yet is a clear dogwhistle to the racist"

- Casey;"best idea I've heard all day tell me more about these racist people... who should we attack..."

But he was asked in an interview about his views on the houses and stables situation.

He didn’t bring it up and replied in a shocked kind of way.

It doesn’t look pre planned but he was shocked by the reaction and ran with it.

This
It was an off the cuff remark about their separate ethnic status.
Is nobody allowed have an opinion on something now?
Nobody has ever explained how they are ethnically different.

wetlandsboy

Trevor Tight Plantation wrote: »

For the pious 'progressives' hell-bent on characterizing Casey voters as bigots, that reality just does not compute. They can't accept that there are people who could support legalized abortion and gay marriage, but also believe that government pandering to Travellers and lifelong social welfare dependents has become a joke.

The Margaret Cash and Tipperary housing scandals have pushed people to breaking point. Providing free houses with acres of land and stables to people who have never lifted a finger to contribute to society? Watching a woman with seven kids she can't support pull a publicity stunt to get a free house in Dublin -- all while normal working people are taxed to the point where they can't afford houses and children of their own?

People are tired of being told that they should be providing things to others that they can't afford themselves. That's not 'bigotry'. It should be a basic tenet of society that working people get to have homes and kids of their own before they have to house welfare dependents and raise their children, but that is not the reality in Ireland of 2018.

I wish I could thank this post a thousand times. In a way, this has really been the making of RTÉ and the government: people who questioned Margaret Cash were silenced; the Fiscal Advisory Council recently commented on the spend on social welfare, but the media didn’t give it traction; the good people who choose not to work do better in the budget than people who ‘get up in the morning.’ Casey has given voice to middle Ireland and has offered a counterpoint to the politically correct, virtual signaling media and establishment.

nice_guy80

wetlandsboy wrote: »

Trevor Tight Plantation wrote: »

For the pious 'progressives' hell-bent on characterizing Casey voters as bigots, that reality just does not compute. They can't accept that there are people who could support legalized abortion and gay marriage, but also believe that government pandering to Travellers and lifelong social welfare dependents has become a joke.

The Margaret Cash and Tipperary housing scandals have pushed people to breaking point. Providing free houses with acres of land and stables to people who have never lifted a finger to contribute to society? Watching a woman with seven kids she can't support pull a publicity stunt to get a free house in Dublin -- all while normal working people are taxed to the point where they can't afford houses and children of their own?

People are tired of being told that they should be providing things to others that they can't afford themselves. That's not 'bigotry'. It should be a basic tenet of society that working people get to have homes and kids of their own before they have to house welfare dependents and raise their children, but that is not the reality in Ireland of 2018.

I wish I could thank this post a thousand times. In a way, this has really been the making of RTÉ and the government: people who questioned Margaret Cash were silenced; the Fiscal Advisory Council recently commented on the spend on social welfare, but the media didn’t give it traction; the good people who choose not to work do better in the budget than people who ‘get up in the morning.’ Casey has given voice to middle Ireland and has offered a counterpoint to the politically correct, virtual signaling media and establishment.

Don't forget the Xmas bonus!

blinding

hurler32 wrote: »

Delighted so many voters vote Casey , to go from 1% to 21% in a fortnight is unheard of in any presenditial election worldwide .
It shows how big a problem for so many people traveller crime has become . The government and Dublin media would want to step out of their bubble and see the reality of traveller crime that law abiding people have to endure on a daily basis .

It is clear evidence that it is time for a Rural Political Party based on Law and Order . FFG /Sinn Fein play lip service to dealing with Rural Crime and the concerns of Rural People .

A Rural Political Party is the only solution to this . The other Political parties have had more than enough time to get their finger out but they have done nada and are going to do nada .

blinding

hurler32 wrote: »

Be interesting to see what constituency gives Peter Casey the biggest vote , hard to predict seen as most parts of rural Ireland are all hugely impacted by traveller crime . If it was a general election he would be elected in practically every constituency. Shows how big s problem traveller crime is .
One of the South Dublin constituency’s where they all live in their palatial mansions and have been brainwashed by the Irish Indo etc will be lowest vote but even they are starting to come on the traveller gangs radar so still be high enough .

A Specific Rural Political Party TD in these constituencies is the only way the Media and Political Establishments are going bro do anything about Rural Crime i.e. Intimidation , Thievery and Burglary .

Enough is enough .

gmisk

blinding wrote: »

It is clear evidence that it is time for a Rural Political Party based on Law and Order . FFG /Sinn Fein play lip service to dealing with Rural Crime and the concerns of Rural People .

A Rural Political Party is the only solution to this . The other Political parties have had more than enough time to get their finger out but they have done nada and are going to do nada .

I think there are enough spin offs from law and order...and that one sounds particularly dull.

blinding

gmisk wrote: »

I think there are enough spin offs from law and order...and that one sounds particularly dull.

gaius c

dav3 wrote: »

Michael D Higgins 66%
Sean Gallagher 12%
Liadh Ni Riada 11%
Joan Freeman 5%
Gavin Duffy 4%
Peter Casey 2%

Michael D Higgins 1/33
Sean Gallagher 18/1
Liadh Ni Riada 25/1
Joan Freeman 25/1
Gavin Duffy 33/1
Peter Casey 500/1

It's been great entertainment watching Peter Casey have an absolute meltdown these past few weeks. The thought of finishing rock bottom is obviously weighing heavy on his mind. Desperate times call for desperate measures it seems.
Even better entertainment, are the tiny tiny minority of people that will vote for him, trying to convince others to vote for him. The look on their faces on the day of the results, when they realise just how many people disagree with him, would be absolutely priceless.

Was obvious this was going to be all wrong.

OfflerCrocGod

mugsymugsy wrote: »

It's the presidency they don't make policies. They shake hands / drink tea / have garden parties and cut ribbons to open places.

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

anthonyjmaher

Pat Kenny coming on now at 9PM. Be interesting to see what spin Pat puts on it. He's become a complete SJW since joining Newstalk. It's amazing the way you get more left wing as you get older, Ted.

maxwell smart

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

They will do whatever they think will grab that 20% of people who voted. Remember that was 20% who might otherwise not have voted at all. That's gold to them.
I wouldn't be surprised to see FF jump on the back of some of his policies.
'Lets have a discussion around Travellers' will be the first articles in the papers, followed up by 'How long can people stay on the dole' etc etc.
Then an election and Sweet F All done about it

Jackman25

dav3 wrote: »

Well, as the sockpuppets and astroturfers drag themselves out of bed with tears streaming down their faces. It's important to remember that for those of you living in Ireland, the majority of people you talk to and interact with today voted for Michael D Higgins. 8 out of 10 people didn't vote for Casey.

The silent majority wins again.

Read the papers and listen to the radio today and see who most of the commentary is about. Marvellous result for those who voted Casey.
If its such a superb result why are so many people throwing their toys out of the pram.
"Sock puppets and astro turfers" I have no idea what that is. Not going to to look them up either as its doubtless meaningless drivel, but whatever you need to do to convince yourself you have won a great victory, you are the Napoleon of the Internet.

namloc1980

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

By the time a general election comes around Casey voters will be FF/FG voters in the main.

blinding

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

Law and Order Political party specifically for Rural Areas . The other Political Parties have completely failed on this issue .

blinding

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

Pat Kenny coming on now at 9PM. Be interesting to see what spin Pat puts on it. He's become a complete SJW since joining Newstalk. It's amazing the way you get more left wing as you get older, Ted.

Pat pleases his paymasters .

A lot of waffle about the unverified result, we really need yo wait for the real results

anthonyjmaher

Casey in studio with Pat Kenny now.

Plumbthedepths

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

Any thoughts yourself? Or are you just going to ask questions?

Plumbthedepths

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

Any thoughts yourself? Or are you just going to ask questions?

Plumbthedepths

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

What should political parties do to respond to what Casey voters want? What policies? Roll back the €5 welfare increase?

Any thoughts yourself? Or are you just going to ask questions?

pjohnson

namloc1980 wrote: »

By the time a general election comes around Casey voters will be FF/FG voters in the main.

Oh....the wheels have fallen off the revolution.

Graniteville

Whatever party comes out with a cap on social welfare that a family is entitled to, gets my vote.

Better still if they grade it so that you have a higher limit if you have contributed to prsi for a minimum of five years. And go further with reduction for anyone with a criminal conviction of a crime that has a maximum sentence of 12 months or more.

This ensures anyone who is entitled to payments gets it, but those that play the system and cause trouble, cannot abuse it.

Graniteville

Whatever party comes out with a cap on social welfare that a family is entitled to, gets my vote.

Better still if they grade it so that you have a higher limit if you have contributed to prsi for a minimum of five years. And go further with reduction for anyone with a criminal conviction of a crime that has a maximum sentence of 12 months or more.

This ensures anyone who is entitled to payments gets it, but those that play the system and cause trouble, cannot abuse it.