Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Redneck Culchie

Not sure I can stomach O'Connors show, strippers, tattoos? Real hot topics.

Lets listen to "Beanz" Ward make excuses and BS from Ciara Kelly with her poorly done botox

tayto lover

listermint wrote: »

So having next to zero access to employment prospects means your are less likely to turn to criminality?


Can you try explain your reasoning?

How come then that non traveller unemployed don't make up a higher number going by your logic?

hill16bhoy

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Not sure I can stomach O'Connors show, strippers, tattoos? Real hot topics.

Lets listen to "Beanz" Ward make excuses and BS from Ciara Kelly with her poorly done botox

There's always the Niall Boylan Show on radio if you want to brush up on your barstool debating techniques.

blanch152

listermint wrote: »

Well yes pretty much. If you can't get a job and people aren't willing to do business with you then criminality is the obvious outcome.

This isn't particular to travellers by the way . This can't be news to you ?

Is this news ?

Criminality is a choice. There are travellers, many of them, who don't resort to it.

Personal responsibility is the key.

listermint wrote: »

Grand.

We will return to normal service of aggravation then.


More of the same. Vroom vroom

You wouldn't be generalising, would you?

listermint

tayto lover wrote: »

How come then that non traveller unemployed don't make up a higher number going by your logic?

Non traveller unemployed do make up a large part of the prisonor population in Ireland.

Who is it that you think is in prison?


Like none of this is new information. People with no prospects regardless of race crede ethnicity are more likely to turn to criminality.


Are you arguing against this?
Confused....

Spanish Eyes

listermint wrote: »

We've been over this.

I said they should get nothing because they are useless.

We even discussed how you didn't bother reading the reply.

How have you forgotten this already. It was like half hour or so ago.


Bit of air perhaps ?

No worries. I don't have to explain anything to anyone. But maybe you feel I need to.

Who do I contact

listermint

blanch152 wrote: »

Criminality is a choice. There are travellers, many of them, who don't resort to it.

Personal responsibility is the key.






You wouldn't be generalising, would you?

Of Course criminality is a choice.

Never said it wasn't


The choice becomes alot narrower when your options are nil.


Not exactly rocket science.

Jackman25

hill16bhoy wrote: »

You've so little to say, yet you seem so confident in saying it.

A perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

We have something in common so. Although possibly we don't. You say plenty, but its all the same shrill nonsense. I see you infest Twitter screaming the same rubbish too all the time. Take a break from the anger, it will do you good.

listermint

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

No worries. I don't have to explain anything to anyone. But maybe you feel I need to.

Who do I contact

A memory specialist?


I don't know. Just spit balling

Redneck Culchie

hill16bhoy wrote: »

There's always the Niall Boylan Show on radio if you want to brush up on your barstool debating techniques.

Time Niall got his own RTE show enough BS from D4 snowflakes on scandalous wages

tayto lover

listermint wrote: »

Non traveller unemployed do make up a large part of the prisonor population in Ireland.

Who is it that you think is in prison?


Like none of this is new information. People with no prospects regardless of race crede ethnicity are more likely to turn to criminality.


Are you arguing against this?
Confused....

Travellers make up a much higher proportion in prison than settled people yet they are only 0.06 percent of the population and even if unemployed their numbers would be nowhere near those of settled unemployed.
Your reasoning does not compute.

listermint

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Time Niall got his own RTE show enough BS from D4 snowflakes on scandalous wages

Brendan is from D4 now ?



Errrrrrr

listermint

tayto lover wrote: »

Travellers make up a much higher proportion in prison than settled people yet they are only 0.06 percent of the population and even if unemployed their numbers would be nowhere near those of settled unemployed.
Your reasoning does not compute.

So 90 percent of the prison population in Ireland is made up of fully employed employable people.

This is your argument?

That's what your settling on.

All those non traveller people are in there because they are vastly employable.

Spanish Eyes

listermint wrote: »

A memory specialist?


I don't know. Just spit balling

Ah you're gas. Appreciate the fun element, even if that might not be what you intended. :pac:

I know things can get heated here sometimes, and I am no angel, but it is just cyberspace at the end of the day. No one except ourselves is listening. That is a problem nowadays with a media that is shutting down anything we say that does not conform with the received wisdom.

But onwards and upwards.

tayto lover

listermint wrote: »

So 90 percent of the prison population in Ireland is made up of fully employed employable people.

This is your argument?

That's what your settling on.

All those non traveller people are in there because they are vastly employable.

You're acting the fool now.
It wasn't that hard to understand.
I'm done with you.

Jackman25

listermint wrote: »

Of Course criminality is a choice.

Never said it wasn't


The choice becomes alot narrower when your options are nil.


Not exactly rocket science.

Your options are never nil. There is absolutely no excuse to rob and terrorize someone in their home and no mitigating factors. It is the act of a degenerate scumbag simple as.

listermint

I don't believe the media is doing that tbh.

That's a throw away term used to play the victim.

The media is amplifying more voices now than ever before in the view to being impartial


You only have to look at the BBC and the brexit debacle. Nothing in there but ultra right wing UKips and people pretend that voice is being surpressed.


It's louder than it's ever been.

listermint

tayto lover wrote: »

You're acting the fool now.
It wasn't that hard to understand.
I'm done with you.

No that is what your are arguing. It's what you have implied with your reasoning.

listermint

Jackman25 wrote: »

Your options are never nil. There is absolutely no excuse to rob and terrorize someone in their home and no mitigating factors. It is the act of a degenerate scumbag simple as.

You'd know this from being a traveller then?


Or a kid from a broken home with a junkie mother and not other parental voices to guide you

tayto lover

That Brendan O' Connor show is rubbish. Very poor panel. The gay traveller lad is the best of them. The two women trying to out-do each other.

listermint

tayto lover wrote: »

That Brendan O' Connor show is rubbish. Very poor panel. The gay traveller lad is the best of them. The two women trying to out-do each other.

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.


He doesn't have the charisma for TV

tayto lover

listermint wrote: »

No that is what your are arguing. It's what you have implied with your reasoning.

You have chosen not to understand. That's your choice.
I won't be responding to you again. You're not genuine imo.

Redneck Culchie

tayto lover wrote: »

That Brendan O' Connor show is rubbish. Very poor panel. The gay traveller lad is the best of them. The two women trying to out-do each other.

Its unwatchable sadly. The guests are just not good enough. Far more interesting discussions on youtube

hill16bhoy

Jackman25 wrote: »

We have something in common so. Although possibly we don't. You say plenty, but its all the same shrill nonsense. I see you infest Twitter screaming the same rubbish too all the time. Take a break from the anger, it will do you good.

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

Redneck Culchie

hill16bhoy wrote: »

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

Are you another Shinner that abandoned ship for the winning team like Francie

listermint

tayto lover wrote: »

You have chosen not to understand. That's your choice.
I won't be responding to you again. You're not genuine imo.

Oh I understand alright.

You don't understand that travellers have less chance of being employed than any section of Irish society.

You don't understand that when an individual has next to zilch options of employment that criminality is he most likely outcome.

You seem to think travellers make up the entire population of prisons and refuse to accept that the rest of the prisoner population is packed with people who felt their only option was criminality.

It's almost like people think that folks like waking up in the morning feeling useless and worthless.

Like the human condition was built for that level of thought.


Have you considered having a gander over research of why people turn to criminality or is it safe to ignore all of that and just get angry with zero grasp of the causes.

Silentcorner

listermint wrote: »

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.


He doesn't have the charisma for TV[/QUOTE]

I thought that was a prerequisite for a gig on RTE...Tubridy/Darcy don't exactly ooze it!

listermint

Silentcorner wrote: »

listermint wrote: »

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.


He doesn't have the charisma for TV[/QUOTE]

I thought that was a prerequisite for a gig on RTE...Tubridy/Darcy don't exactly ooze it!

Rte is packed with poor choices

Spanish Eyes

hill16bhoy wrote: »

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

MDH is history now. He just has to spend his money and gain his pensions. And spout a bit of poetry lol. He knows, we know. We don't care. We know the score.

FrancieBrady

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Are you another Shinner that abandoned ship for the winning team like Francie

Your pathetic need to score points is not really helping your argument.

Long before Casey entered his rabble rousing comment, I had made my decision.

You are part of the 18% approx that found a new hero who has already said he isn't going to carry on with his anti traveller spiel.

He has gotten what he wants - notoriety, you have gotten a thread on boards. :rolleyes: