Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

mynamejeff

tretorn wrote: »

How in the name of God does Tubridy get to trouser almost 500,00 thousand a year.

This puts him on a par with medical consultants with years of specialist training behind them and jobs that carry huge personal responnsibility.

Tubridy was disgraceful last night, he is completely inane on both Radio and TV so who or what is his salary benchmarked against.

"Tubridy's mother is Catherine Andrews,[21] whose father, Todd Andrews, was a prominent associate of Fianna Fáil founder Éamon de Valera and held a number of posts in semi-state companies. A maternal uncle, Niall Andrews, was a TD and MEP, while another maternal uncle, David Andrews, was an Irish Government minister. Two of his first cousins, Barry Andrews and Chris Andrews, have also sat in Dáil Éireann as Fianna Fáil TDs, the former being a Minister of State for Children in the coalition government of Brian Cowen, since then becoming chief executive of aid charity GOAL,[22] while the latter was elected to Dublin City Council as a Sinn Féin member in 2014."


born into it sure , the lucky few who are entitled to huge amounts of public money regardless of talent skill or ability

tretorn

But the salary, seriously how can anyone think someone sitting interviewing authors flogging their books in time for the christmas market is worth almost five hundred thousand euros. I know he worked for the BBC for a couple of summers but dont think he lasted too long there so its not as if his talents are in great demand.

Did he actually delete his instagram account today, he must have received some comments he didnt like.

He has done so much now to keep the publicity on Casey, that wont please Leo and his handlers.

Plumbthedepths

MFPM wrote: »

Might I suggest you take your head out of your bigoted ar$e and look at the facts of the situation - you're simply aping Casey.

Your reply indicates you don't understand the meaning of bigot/ bigotry.

MFPM

goat2 wrote: »

I am glad P Casey is entering politics, and I can see him getting in on first go, will be good for all

I'm gald that you're glad but I wouldn't hold my breath - he has shown himself to be an incoherent individual with little grasp of politics.

How will it be good for 'all'?

MFPM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Your reply indicates you don't understand the meaning of bigot/ bigotry.

Your reply does likewise for you, thanks all the same.

Spanish Eyes

MFPM wrote: »

Might I suggest you take your head out of your bigoted ar$e and look at the facts of the situation - you're simply aping Casey.

Are you concerned about my and many others views now.

oK, it is reasonable to be concerned when people revolt and question the raison d'etre.

Klonker

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Klonker wrote: »

I'm voting Renua in next General Election as long as they drop the anti abortion and they actually have a candidate in my constituency (Fingal). I can't vote for any of the main parties again.

I voted Independent last time and Renua number 2. Neither got in but nearly 3 years later I am happy with my choice. I won't be taken in by any more lies and ****e from the main parties. My issue with Renua next time would be, they were disorganised last time, they seem to have even less organisation and members at the moment.

I think we may have better options though in the Local and European Elections. More chance for free speaking and less establishment stuff.
The next election though is looking like more FF/FG. Probably why Casey is calling out Fianna Fail and saying he wants them to change.

Yeah I don't believe Renua are the answer but there's no other option, all the other parties are trying to out left wing each other leaving a lot of voters with no where to turn. Countries crying out for a new party, sadly I don't see it happening any time soon. It's actually depressing.

Plumbthedepths

MFPM wrote: »

Your reply does likewise for you, thanks all the same.

I'm very tolerant of the opinion of others, as my comments show. Best you grab a dictionary.

FrancieBrady

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Are you concerned about my and many others views now.

oK, it is reasonable to be concerned when people revolt and question the raison d'etre.

Revolt? :D:D
A failed presidential bid and a 10 min segment on Tubridy. Vive la Révolution!

Spanish Eyes

What about the lack of voice for those impacted by Traveller ethnic status stuff?

Those who minimise it have never experienced it. Shoo.

MFPM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'm very tolerant of the opinion of others, as my comments show. Best you grab a dictionary.

As am I but I'm also happy to point out bigotry when I see it, you seem content to turn a blind eye then again perhaps you don't understand the concept.

MFPM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

What about the lack of voice for those impacted by Traveller ethnic status stuff?

Those who minimise it have never experienced it. Shoo.

Who are these marginialsed voices?

tretorn

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Revolt? :D:D
A failed presidential bid and a 10 min segment on Tubridy. Vive la Révolution!

There are plenty of politicans who started off at local resident association level and then progressed through decades of sitting through council meetings dealing with local issues and wouldnt have polled anything like Peter Casey did on entering the presidential election.

He achieved a remarkable result and stole the clothes off Sinn Fein. Mary Lou Mc Donald has some serious thinking to do.

MFPM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Are you concerned about my and many others views now.

oK, it is reasonable to be concerned when people revolt and question the raison d'etre.

I'm not overly concerned you and others, you represent a tiny and irrelevant minority thankfully.

oK, it is reasonable to be concerned when people revolt and question the raison d'etre

I'm afraid I have no idea what this sentence means. Perhaps you're confusing raison d'être?

tretorn

MFPM wrote: »

Who are these marginialsed voices?

Ahem, the marginalised voices galvanised themselves the minute Casey said the word traveller, they arent going anywhere, the Wests awake.

do keep up.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

tretorn wrote: »

There are plenty of politicans who started off at local resident association level and then progressed through decades of sitting through council meetings dealing with local issues and wouldnt have polled anything like Peter Casey did on entering the presidential election.

He achieved a remarkable result and stole the clothes off Sinn Fein. Mary Lou Mc Donald has some serious thinking to do.

Again, nothing remarkable about having lots of money and a loud voice. Being popular does not mean your ideas are sound.

The Bishop Basher

listermint wrote: »

Good


Then allow your posts to reflect your views more accurately because they have come across that way.

People need alot more clarity on their thoughts they come across as a machine gun of anger at everything and everyone.

So what are your solutions for welfare fraud and other points you noted.

You’re still projecting but that aside it’s too complex to even start to get into here..

Not that I claim to have the answers by the way..

That’s what we pay our politicians a very handsome salary for..

Needless say, we could start with trying to figure out why we have more people per capita on disability then any other nation in Europe.

Let’s take a peak under that rock and start from there..

Let’s also get CAB to investigate why gangs of travelers with no form of income can afford brand new vans, caravans, limos, gold coffins, etc etc while claiming welfare..

Stop paying dole for life. Have a system where it reduces year on year while providing assistance to people to get back to work.

Child benefit should stop after 2 kids.

If you don’t want to work tough.. you want dole, you go cleaning walls or weeding parks.. whatever it is, you earn the money and instill a sense of pride into people.

Our pensions have to be looked at. We can’t afford them and it’s like a train wreck coming at us. We need to start planning for that now..

Build a large prison and start locking up repeat offenders. 3 strike rule sounds good to me..

I could go on and on but as I said there’s too much to get into in a post here..

Truth is, we just need to try something, anything, cause right now we’re doing nothing but lander more and more to this lazy and undesirable section of our society.

Plumbthedepths

MFPM wrote: »

As am I but I'm also happy to point out bigotry when I see it, you seem content to turn a blind eye then again perhaps you don't understand the concept.

You seem to have given your own definition to a word/term already defined. Fire ahead so.

MFPM

tretorn wrote: »

Ahem, the marginalised voices galvanised themselves the minute Casey said the word traveller, they arent going anywhere, the Wests awake.

do keep up.

I'm keeping up, you seem to be very confused. How are the voices 'marginalised' be precise now. The people in the West seem wide awake to Casey's nonsense hence a majority rejected him.

FrancieBrady

tretorn wrote: »

There are plenty of politicans who started off at local resident association level and then progressed through decades of sitting through council meetings dealing with local issues and wouldnt have polled anything like Peter Casey did on entering the presidential election.

He achieved a remarkable result and stole the clothes off Sinn Fein. Mary Lou Mc Donald has some serious thinking to do.

No doubt he found a cheap line to motivate a lot of hate and anger out there.

Let's not call it a revolution just yet though, that is just silly talk.

Have to say, if it is a 'revolution', it's the most incoherent one in history.

tretorn

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Again, nothing remarkable about having lots of money and a loud voice. Being popular does not mean your ideas are sound.

To get 347,00 people to vote for an unknown candidate is a remarkable achievement. To get this vote in spite of the combined media portraying you as a loose cannon and in spite of the Taoiseach advising no one to vote for you is even more incredible.

If another presidential was held tomorrow its conceivable that Casey might get five hundred thousand votes.

Has any politican without a family background managed to achieve anything like Caseys vote in a General Election, his success was unprecedented.

Its not a revolution but its a shot fired across Leos brows, Leo had some indication from early on that Casey was going to poll well, thats when he made the fatal mistake of telling people how to vote.

MFPM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You seem to have given your own definition to a word/term already defined. Fire ahead so.

Might I suggest you consult the definition of the word, its permitted usage and then come back and acknowledge your ignorance. Good man.

FrancieBrady

tretorn wrote: »

To get 347,00 people to vote for an unknown candidate is a remarkable achievement. To get this vote in spite of the combined media portraying you as a loose cannon and in spite of the Taoiseach advising no one to vote for you is even more incredible.

If another presidential was held tomorrow its conceivable that Casey might get five hundred thousand votes.

Has any politican without a family background managed to achieve anything like Caseys vote in a General Election, his success was unprecedented.

But as I said when the result came out and before it, it is abject failure to only achieve what he did when 'everybody' knew what he was saying. :rolleyes:

mynamejeff

MFPM wrote: »

Might I suggest you take your head out of your bigoted ar$e and look at the facts of the situation - you're simply aping Casey.

what exactly is bigoted or non factual about that ?

Roger Hassenforder

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But as I said when the result came out and before it, it is abject failure to only achieve what he did when 'everybody' knew what he was saying. :rolleyes:

You're still pedalling Casey's"failure" Francie.
Nobody is buying it.

MFPM

tretorn wrote: »

To get 347,00 people to vote for an unknown candidate is a remarkable achievement. To get this vote in spite of the combined media portraying you as a loose cannon and in spite of the Taoiseach advising no one to vote for you is even more incredible.

If another presidential was held tomorrow its conceivable that Casey might get five hundred thousand votes.

Has any politican without a family background managed to achieve anything like Caseys vote in a General Election, his success was unprecedented.

Its not a revolution but its a shot fired across Leos brows, Leo had some indication from early on that Casey was going to poll well, thats when he made the fatal mistake of telling people how to vote.

Do you ever think before you post.

Sean Gallagher got 28% of the vote - over 500K in 2011 even after tweetgate - he was generally unknown before 2011.

tretorn

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But as I said when the result came out and before it, it is abject failure to only achieve what he did when 'everybody' knew what he was saying. :rolleyes:

Its not a failure in any sense of the word.

He should be very proud of what he achieved.

He left all the other candidates including Joan Freeman far behind, people saw through the nonsense about people looking to be elected pretending they wouldnt have problems with halting sites near them, to lie to this extent in the pursuit of power means you arent fit to morally lead others.

Spanish Eyes

Casey has won.

He has opened up a debate now and has given a voice to those who have been totally silenced up to now.

Good on him.

We know the media and the Establishment will never comment apart from negatively against him.

But honestly, the more they do this, the more people without a voice will ask why they are being silenced.

Captain Obvious

listermint wrote: »

Admit ?

Have you been following my posts.

Of course they are stuck in a cycle. They can't get employment because people already have bias against them this thread is evidence of it. They turn to criminality because of this. It's an easy transition from zero opportunities to criminality.

The cycle can only be breached through community lead local youth work. Which needs proper funding and not through funding spokes groups like pavee point.

People need to feel their life is worth something. Anyone of us who had that level of self worth would probably be in the same positions in life.

I wouldn't want to be identifiable once I opened my mouth and judged straight away.

How do you think we break this cycle ?

i think you have the start of the cycle incorrect. Traveller criminality starts off at a young age, sometimes very young. It won't be broken without targeting the parents as well as the children.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That is not what he/she came up short on. They tried to make it look as if there was special provision for travellers in the law.
Something Casey has been trying to do as well. There isn't.

That provision was brought in primarily to deal with travellers though.

MFPM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Casey has won.

He has opened up a debate now and has given a voice to those who have been totally silenced up to now.

Good on him.

We know the media and the Establishment will never comment apart from negatively against him.

But honestly, the more they do this, the more people without a voice will ask why they are being silenced.

He lost and lost decisively. He has shown himself to be clueless and incoherent on any questions he's been asked. Even his points on broadband have been shown to be palpable nonsense.