Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

PikeyPoint

bubblypop wrote: »

What actual difference does it make that travellers are an ethnic minority?

Free house and a ban on criticism for openers.

Hitman3000

FrancieBrady wrote:

If I thought for a minute he said it for genuine reasons, I would agree that he should run. His opinion needs challenging just like mine and others opinion. But his News At One radio and his later TV interviews convince me that he said something he doesn't believe in and used to get some cheap attention. He looked visibly shaken that he had unleashed something that scared him - hate.

The above is nothing than your opinion

FrancieBrady wrote:

For doing that, I think a short spell at the pleasure of the state would be more appropriate TBH.

Evidence of your lofty ideals about respecting the opinion of others.

PikeyPoint

FrancieBrady wrote: »

how am I ducking? I explained above why I think what I do. Accept the opinion or don't, that's fine, I just think it a delicious irony to be baying for one man's right to have an opinion while ridiculing another for having one. Which is what you did.

No, ridiculing you because you ridicule others for their opinion and wanting a man locked up for stating his. This is what you are doing.

NIMAN

bubblypop wrote: »

What actual difference does it make that travellers are an ethnic minority?

Means they have free reign to do whatever they want, and be above criticism or scrutiny.

anthonyjmaher

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Casey is telling the truth, typically the leprechaun was outraged.

But he is such a hypocrite anyway. As well as him LYING about going for a second term, I could not believe his Christmas message last year did not get more coverage in the media for how ridiculous the optics of it were, and how completely disconnected from the real world this man is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvNner1ZU0

Telling us all about how terrible the homeless crisis as he sits in front of his banquet and roaring fire. And him a socialist??? Would a socialist not have invited some of those less fortunate them himself to break bread at his table, or did he think they would appreciate the YouTube message more?

Beechwoodspark

Delighted Casey told veruca veradkar to p1ss off and mind his own business

All the usual gobsh1tes lining up to kick Casey on the radio at moment.

Casey number 1

PikeyPoint

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

But he is such a hypocrite anyway. As well as him LYING about going for a second term, I could not believe his Christmas message last year did not get more coverage in the media for how ridiculous the optics of it were, and how completely disconnected from the real world this man is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvNner1ZU0

Telling us all about how terrible the homeless crisis as he sits in front of his banquet and roaring fire. And him a socialist??? Would a socialist not have invited some of those less fortunate them himself to break bread at his table, or did he think they would appreciate the YouTube message more?

Does Mickey Dee have stables outside his Aras? Just wondering!

anthonyjmaher

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Delighted Casey told veruca veradkar to p1ss off and mind his own business. Casey number 1

Just listening to RTE now though. Their shill contributors are using this statement to further paint Casey as a racist. He may be left with no other option to resign.

Beechwoodspark

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

Just listening to RTE now though. Their shill contributors are using this statement to further paint Casey as a racist. He may be left with no other option to resign.

He should never resign or apologize for his comments which have been blown out of all proportion to what he actually said

NIMAN

NIMAN wrote: »

Means they have free reign to do whatever they want, and be above criticism or scrutiny.

I actually being serious. They declared them an ethnic minority last year, buy it doesn't make any difference does it?
It was illegal to discriminate against travellers for years, so that didn't change.

Does anyone actually know what difference it makes?

tayto lover

FrancieBrady wrote: »

how am I ducking? I explained above why I think what I do. Accept the opinion or don't, that's fine, I just think it a delicious irony to be baying for one man's right to have an opinion while ridiculing another for having one. Which is what you did.

Oh the irony !! Are you not doing exactly that yourself?

There was no inciting or racism in anything Casey said and nobody including yourself has been able to point out anything remotely resembling either.

FrancieBrady

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The above is nothing than your opinion



Evidence of your lofty ideals about respecting the opinion of others.

Not 100% sure you read that original post correctly there Hitman. I would 'respect' his opinion if I thought it was genuine.

I don't think it is genuine because of his subsequent actions and I think he was visibly shaken when he realised what he said.
Further bad publicity for him on News At One there as RTE played the clip of him having a go at Leo and dragging Leo's ethnic status into it. .

FrancieBrady

tayto lover wrote: »

Oh the irony !! Are you not doing exactly that yourself?

There was no inciting or racism in anything Casey said and nobody including yourself has been able to point out anything remotely resembling either.

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

PikeyPoint

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

Truth hurts the most. He didn't incite hatred, he simply told it as it is. The hatred is already there towards them. They earned this themselves.

tayto lover

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not 100% sure you read that original post correctly there Hitman. I would 'respect' his opinion if I thought it was genuine.
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I don't think it is genuine because of his subsequent actions and I think he was visibly shaken when he realised what he said.
Further bad publicity for him on News At One there as RTE played the clip of him having a go at Leo and dragging Leo's ethnic status into it. .

Did he actually mention Leo's ethnic status or did RTE just add that bit on as some here suggested? I haven't heard the piece yet.

NasserShammaz

tayto lover wrote: »

Oh the irony !! Are you not doing exactly that yourself?

There was no inciting or racism in anything Casey said and nobody including yourself has been able to point out anything remotely resembling either.

Agreed. Casey talked about equality not division.

The hatred ,mistrust & genuine fear of this ethnic Moronity is real and with good reason if there is a stereotype of travellers as criminal thieving lying tax dodging violent wasters then it is them that have created it by their own actions and behavior.

If it walks like a duck, Quacks like a duck then...............

FrancieBrady

bubblypop wrote: »

I actually being serious. They declared them an ethnic minority last year, buy it doesn't make any difference does it?
It was illegal to discriminate against travellers for years, so that didn't change.

Does anyone actually know what difference it makes?

It makes no difference to anyone but them and does not diminish the status of anybody else or make them more equal or less.

It also does not insulate you from the laws of the land or social responsibilities. If a traveller breaks the law they are just as answerable as the rest of us.

If they aren't then that is the fault of those administering the law to be honest.

Beechwoodspark

tayto lover wrote: »

Did he actually mention Leo's ethnic status or did RTE just add that bit on as some here suggested? I haven't heard the piece yet.

Why are ppl losing their mind over someone mentioning varadkars ethnic background

Leo Varadkar is from an Indian background. Fact.

His father migrated to the Uk from India and met his mother who was an Irish nurse over there. Fact

They married and Leo is one of their children. Fact

Why are ppl not supposed to mention this?

FrancieBrady

tayto lover wrote: »

Did he actually mention Leo's ethnic status or did RTE just add that bit on as some here suggested? I haven't heard the piece yet.

Yes he does. He said something along the lines of 'Leo as an ethnic minoirity himself...Indian... should know that'

PikeyPoint

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Agreed. Casey talked about equality not division.

The hatred ,mistrust & genuine fear of this ethnic Moronity is real and with good reason if there is a stereotype of travellers as criminal thieving lying tax dodging violent wasters then it is them that have created it by their own actions and behavior.

If it walks like a duck, Quacks like a duck then...............

Are you suggesting Mickey Dee quacks?

tayto lover

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

You said he "incited hatred" and I say he just gave an opinion that resonated with a very sizeable proportion of the population based on their experiences with the Traveller community.
So he is not inciting hatred. He is empathising.

Hitman3000

FrancieBrady wrote:

Not 100% sure you read that original post correctly there Hitman. I would 'respect' his opinion if I thought it was genuine.

You have demonstrated yourself to be a bigot. I always found the advice 'when in a hole to stop digging'.

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Literally everyone I have talked to in the past 3 days is voting Casey number 1. Colleagues, friends & family. He speaks for the majority, not the minority.

FrancieBrady

tayto lover wrote: »

You said he "incited hatred" and I say he just gave an opinion that resonated with a very sizeable proportion of the population based on their experiences with the Traveller community.
So he is not inciting hatred. He is empathising.

Which is fair enough if that is what you believe. We have no idea how many it has resonated with actually.

Suckit

This is F*cking ridiculous that it is even an argument or discussion..

This guy is looking to be the head of State. Tarred a body of People with one sweeping statement - Will have no power to do anything/change anything, and has opened up an uncountable amount of abuse for the few Travellers that do decide to go to School, and realised a pereception for many more young Travellers.
This is most detrimental to young Travellers, who do not want to be tarred with the same brush, they must now be thinking that they cannot be unmarked.
To a 12 year old the options must seem very limited.

And all because it comes from a person who makes a living ripping off people in a different way. F*ck off.

tayto lover

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

No he didn't. The hatred was there already so there was no incitement needed.
Casey just stated facts which backed up his opinion.

FrancieBrady

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You have demonstrated yourself to be a bigot. .

I have?


As I said to Tayto, your disparaging and insulting reaction to my 'opinion' would lead me to believe you value no-ones opinion but your own. The classic definition of what you just called me.

PikeyPoint

Suckit wrote: »

This is F*cking ridiculous that it is even an argument or discussion..

This guy is looking to be the head of State. Tarred a body of People with one sweeping statement - Will have no power to do anything/change anything, and has opened up an uncountable amount of abuse for the few Travellers that do decide to go to School, and realised a pereception for many more young Travellers.
This is most detrimental to young Travellers, who do not want to be tarred with the same brush, they must now be thinking that they cannot be unmarked.
To a 12 year old the options must seem very limited.

And all because it comes from a person who makes a living ripping off people in a different way. F*ck off.

"the few Travellers that do decide to go to School"

Yep, very few. Meanwhile the rest......

tayto lover

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which is fair enough if that is what you believe. We have no idea how many it has resonated with actually.

A lot on here.

FrancieBrady

tayto lover wrote: »

No he didn't. The hatred was there already so there was no incitement needed.
Casey just stated facts which backed up his opinion.

Yes and as you know hatred of blacks is there already and you will go to jail if you incite it or enflame it. Law of the land Tayto.