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8 years for man who tried to strangle his 4 kids

Pelvis · 2018-10-17 10:41:13

What is wrong with sentencing in this country? He got 12 years with the last 4 suspended. In the US this guy would rightly spend the rest of his natural life in prison! https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/man-jailed-for-eight-years-for-attempting-to-murder-his-four-children-1.3666504 Insane.

17-10-2018 11:41am

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What is wrong with sentencing in this country? He got 12 years with the last 4 suspended. In the US this guy would rightly spend the rest of his natural life in prison!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/man-jailed-for-eight-years-for-attempting-to-murder-his-four-children-1.3666504

Insane.

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#2 17-10-2018 11:45am

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So sad, but maybe the mental illness aspect of it has something to do with the sentence.

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#3 17-10-2018 12:11pm

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mariaalice wrote: »

So sad, but maybe the mental illness aspect of it has something to do with the sentence.

I don't think so. People just get pathetically light sentences in this country.

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#4 17-10-2018 12:27pm

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mariaalice wrote: »

So sad, but maybe the mental illness aspect of it has something to do with the sentence.

If it did wouldn't he get a suspended sentence and supervised visits like that woman from a few weeks back?

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#5 17-10-2018 12:29pm

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It's the pure refusal from the powers that be to build a super prision. I hate these sentences as much as the next person, but the root of the problem is there is not enoght space in prisons to hand out the long sentences.

IMO, the judges shouldn't be worrying about this it's not there problem.

Like everything else in Ireland the justice system is in taters and once pockets are lined by the taxpayer then no one cares. The criminal justice system in Ireland is an absolutely facrical operation, I said before I really feel sorry for the Gardai on the ground that are engaged in this system, that have to see there hard work only insulted by a judge in giving a suspended sentence.

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#6 17-10-2018 12:35pm

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Meanwhile the woman last week that broke the bones and fractured the skull of her infant child got off scotfree

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#7 17-10-2018 8:03pm

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YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Meanwhile the woman last week that broke the bones and fractured the skull of her infant child got off scotfree

WTF?

https://forumofgames.com/

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#8 17-10-2018 8:11pm

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JP Liz V1 wrote: »

WTF?

Possibly referring to this case.

http://www.thejournal.ie/mother-baby-injuries-court-4277775-Oct2018/

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#9 17-10-2018 8:12pm

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Pelvis wrote: »

What is wrong with sentencing in this country? He got 12 years with the last 4 suspended. In the US this guy would rightly spend the rest of his natural life in prison!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/man-jailed-for-eight-years-for-attempting-to-murder-his-four-children-1.3666504

Insane.

He's clearly mentally ill, so the 8 years in prison is going to do nothing to help him and society in general.

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#10 17-10-2018 8:15pm

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8 lousy years for attempting to murder your own children a pathetic joke of a sentence by an equally pathetic justice system.

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#11 17-10-2018 8:17pm

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Something about garlic.

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#12 17-10-2018 8:20pm

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Zebra3 wrote: »

Something about garlic.

It's nice with cheese chips

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#13 17-10-2018 9:10pm

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YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Meanwhile the woman last week that broke the bones and fractured the skull of her infant child got off scotfree

Crikey, there was enough of that on the thread about it https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057918715 as if that's more important than what she did to the child, but even to bring it up on another thread - about the attempted murder of four children... is there nowhere some folks won't grind this axe.

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#14 17-10-2018 9:58pm

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There was a good explanation of the sentencing on the RTE news, the sentencing took in to account the mental illness but also the narcissistic elements which seem to have been a big factor in why he was jailed.

Which seems to suggest the judge believed he has had no control over his mental illness but did have control over the narcissistic element of the crime and that is part of the reason he was jailed.

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#15 17-10-2018 10:07pm

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We need at absolute minimum real prison tariffs that takes sentencing directly out of a judge's hand or opinion ,
As another poster said we need an actual new prison system capable of holding a serious number of prisoners long term ,

Another recent case involved a serious assault and attempted sexual assault by a husband that walked out of court a free man

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#16 17-10-2018 10:34pm

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Sad case but the perp obviously has serious mental problems.

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#17 17-10-2018 10:53pm

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It might be a good idea if someday somebody in power decided that people with serious mental issues are put in a facility where that could be dealt with rather than thrown in with the general criminal population. Radical, eh.

Definitely one of those "I can't believe society treated mentally ill people like that" reflections in a future generation.

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