New gaming PC build advise

Damien360

Gaming Build using AMD Ryzen 5 2400 with 1060 6GB GPU

Can I get opinions on this please. It is stretching my budget. Must have Quiet fans/coolers as it will be on second floor. 14 year old will be principal user.

1. What is your budget?
€1200 (preferably lower !)

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?
Gaming PC

3. Do you need a copy of Windows?
Yes

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
Monitor 24" 60Hz
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G213
1TB 7200rpm WD 3.5"HD - spec'd a 2TB in build as 1TB a bit low
Logitech Headset G933


5. Do you need a monitor?
No

5a. If yes, what size do you need.
n/a

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future?
1920x1080 - No

6. Do you need any of these peripherals?
No

7. Are you willing to try overclocking?
No

8. How can you pay?
Debit card

9. When are you purchasing?
week to 2 weeks

10. If you need help building it, where are you based?
Have someone local I hope.


This is the following part list I've got:

https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JLHr6

Current machine is Dell inspiron laptop 17" 5000 series with i5 6300 and a radeon R5 M335 GPU. 8GB DDR3 RAM, win 10 home.

Currently runs GTA V on low to medium at 30fps. Main game of interest is Rainbow Six Siege on low to medium 1420x1240 aspect 16:10 to get 30fps.

replacement needs to be able to run AAA games on decent settings and comfortably beat the laptop

K.O.Kiki

Damien360 wrote: »

Gaming Build using AMD Ryzen 5 2400 with 1060 6GB GPU

Can I get opinions on this please. It is stretching my budget. Must have Quiet fans/coolers as it will be on second floor. 14 year old will be principal user.

1. What is your budget?
€1200 (preferably lower !)

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?
Gaming PC

3. Do you need a copy of Windows?
Yes

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
Monitor 24" 60Hz
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G213
1TB 7200rpm WD 3.5"HD - spec'd a 2TB in build as 1TB a bit low
Logitech Headset G933


5. Do you need a monitor?
No

5a. If yes, what size do you need.
n/a

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future?
1920x1080 - No

6. Do you need any of these peripherals?
No

7. Are you willing to try overclocking?
No

8. How can you pay?
Debit card

9. When are you purchasing?
week to 2 weeks

10. If you need help building it, where are you based?
Have someone local I hope.


This is the following part list I've got:

https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JLHr6

Current machine is Dell inspiron laptop 17" 5000 series with i5 6300 and a radeon R5 M335 GPU. 8GB DDR3 RAM, win 10 home.

Currently runs GTA V on low to medium at 30fps. Main game of interest is Rainbow Six Siege on low to medium 1420x1240 aspect 16:10 to get 30fps.

replacement needs to be able to run AAA games on decent settings and comfortably beat the laptop

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£147.60 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler (£17.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£125.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£73.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (£363.33 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£62.81 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £944.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-17 19:37 BST+0100

Add another £25 for a Powerline kit. Do not play on wireless.

You can also downgrade the GPU to GTX 1060 6Gb (£230ish)

Damien360

I see what I was doing wrong. IE pricing vs your UK pricing.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gfnFxG

I stayed with 1060 vs your 1070 to keep price lower. Is there enough jump in performance of 1060 over current laptop spec or should I really be looking at 1070

Thanks for the reply

K.O.Kiki

Damien360 wrote: »

I see what I was doing wrong. IE pricing vs your UK pricing.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gfnFxG

I stayed with 1060 vs your 1070 to keep price lower. Is there enough jump in performance of 1060 over current laptop spec or should I really be looking at 1070

Thanks for the reply

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£23.45 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£132.03 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£65.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.12 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£62.81 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £868.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-18 02:24 BST+0100

Notes:
CPU cooler: not strictly necessary, but the M9a is quieter than AMD stock.
Motherboard: DO NOT CHEAP OUT HERE. Since this is running a 6-core Ryzen 2600, a good motherboard with VRM cooling is a must for longevity. Get the above-recommended MSI board.
Storage: Get a 480/500Gb SSD, you'd be surprised how quickly they fill up.
GPU: make sure you're selecting the OCV1 and not the OC model.
Case: Focus G is cheap but quality & easy to build in. Might want to add another 120mm fan for exhaust though.
PSU: Seasonic G 550W is Gold-rated, which is a grade better than Silver.
OS: You don't need to buy Windows 10 tbh, just put it onto an 8Gb+ flash drive (here on Microsoft.com) and click "Activate later" during installation.
Sound card: NOT NEEDED
LAN card: NOT NEEDED

This system should give you 1920x1080 at High settings in most games.

Damien360

Nearly there.

I copied your build fully keeping it to amazon and CCL, added the extra 120mm fan. But the CPU cooler from cooler master is not compatible. I went back to the BeQuiet brand and picked a low dB fan. Is this correct with regard to cooler master ?

This will be the final build I hope and should pull the trigger on this by the weekend. Your advice so far is very much appreciated. Final advise required.


PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mnhrWD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mnhrWD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Pure Rock Slim 35.1 CFM CPU Cooler (£23.82 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£132.03 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.29 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.12 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£50.31 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£8.82 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £868.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-18 17:46 BST+0100

K.O.Kiki

Looks grand yeah.

Regarding Cryorig M9a, it does work, you just need to contact Cryorig for a free bracket.

Damien360

Hi. I have just ordered everything except the power supply and case. The case is available but the power supply is to be shipped from US with a delay of up to 2 months.

2 things.

1. Is this a switching power supply or likely to blow on 230V mains

2. Can you recommend another power supply as 2 months wait is silly

TerrorFirmer

Is there enough jump in performance of 1060 over current laptop spec or should I really be looking at 1070

Just had to address this....your current laptop isn't even a gaming laptop, you could honestly buy a 2nd hand PC for €200 that would run rings around it in games.

M335 - GTAV at 720P low settings 30fps.

GTX1060 6GB - GTAV at 1080p ultra settings 80-90fps.

Even a €500 budget new build would destroy the laptop performance wise.

Damien360

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Just had to address this....your current laptop isn't even a gaming laptop, you could honestly buy a 2nd hand PC for €200 that would run rings around it in games.

M335 - GTAV at 720P low settings 30fps.

GTX1060 6GB - GTAV at 1080p ultra settings 80-90fps.

Even a €500 budget new build would destroy the laptop performance wise.

Thanks for this. I am no a PC gamer but my son is and I wanted to hear this.

Went with a Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

Everything ordered. Next step the build.

Damien360

Building this now. Which direction should the fan of the power supply be in. Down to base of case which has a mesh filter or up towards the cards etc.

Sucking hot air from GPU on to power supply makes no sense but having the fan facing the ground makes even less sense.

Lu Tze

Damien360 wrote: »

Building this now. Which direction should the fan of the power supply be in. Down to base of case which has a mesh filter or up towards the cards etc.

Sucking hot air from GPU on to power supply makes no sense but having the fan facing the ground makes even less sense.

Facing down, it sucks in colder air from outside the case and exhausts out the back.

TerrorFirmer

Facing the ground, it'll take it air through the mesh.

Damien360

Cpu Be quiet cooler. Got the cooler mounted ok but what is the cooler fan direction. Pulling hot air off or pulling air on to the cooler. Online says Be quiet logo facing out but that is pulling air to the cooler.

Damien360

PC built. Ran a game called house flipper on it which would not run on the laptop we had.

Holds 75fps with all settings maxed out. GPU never got above 62C. CPU temp held about 30C. So I must have installed the cooler correctly with fan pulling cold air on to the fins of cooler.

frustrated1

Damien360 wrote: »

PC built. Ran a game called house flipper on it which would not run on the laptop we had.

Holds 75fps with all settings maxed out. GPU never got above 62C. CPU temp held about 30C. So I must have installed the cooler correctly with fan pulling cold air on to the fins of cooler.

Any photo's of the finished PC you'd like to share?