Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

tuxy

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

I suspect that "it's against our religion" is just a socially acceptable cover story. The vast majority of Catholics do use birth control nowadays, regardless of what the Church says. For Travellers, the real purpose of all these kids is to boost social welfare payments rather than to abide by Church teachings.

Are you saying that Catholics from all walks of life tend to just pick and choose the parts of the religion they like and it makes absolutely no difference to the morality of the person?

Deebles McBeebles

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

These Traveller lobbying groups put the likes of 'Sweet.Science' to shame with their epic level trolling.

:pac:

"Along with the clean-up, there needs to be a proactive plan to prevent future rubbish dumping."

I mean....

ohnonotgmail

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

:pac:

"Along with the clean-up, there needs to be a proactive plan to prevent future rubbish dumping."

I mean....

they should consider surrounding the site with a moat filled with crocodiles

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

tuxy wrote: »

Are you saying that Catholics from all walks of life tend to just pick and choose the parts of the religion they like and it makes absolutely no difference to the morality of the person?

I'm not making any moral judgement, just pointing out the fact that the majority of Catholics nowadays disregard the Church's stance on contraception.

A recent Pew Research survey of Catholics in the United States found that just 8 percent said contraception is morally wrong, with 89 percent saying it was either morally acceptable or not a moral issue at all.

I'd guess similar views prevail among Irish Catholics nowadays.

Deebles McBeebles

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they should consider surrounding the site with a moat filled with crocodiles

If we swap the crocs for some rubbish compactors you might be on to something.

Roger Hassenforder

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

It might be helpful if we began to get back to some more fundamental questions such as why the wages paid by private companies should determine family size, 300 years after the age of Enlightenment.

I voted Yes in last year's referendum on women's choice, but one of the arguments that I thought was worthy of further discussion was why women (or, parents) should feel like they need to limit their families because they are too poor to have a child.

Ask any parent - each one has no greater priority than a child. Why can't we try to modify our social and economic life so that wages are secondary to one's family life?

Are humans not capable of prioritising family life over the immediate economic needs of employers within an economy?

That wasn't a rhetorical question, it's possible that we are not capable of doing this.

Serious socialist bang of that, someone else can pay...
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs nonsense. A tried and failed social model. A busted flush.

"I want more babies, but as I've limited means, someone else will pay for them" yada yada.

Who picks up the tab for peoples fecundity and lack of fiscal responsibility, to accommodate their base urge or "moral obligations" to procreate without regard to future progeny's welfare. Its unsustainable, from every angle, to have uncontrolled reproduction of any species, not to mind actually incentivise it in humans who seem to have the lowest capability to provide for themselves.

Most responsible people plan a family based on their ability to afford and provide a standard of living commensurate to their means. A balance of inputs and outputs.

Remind yourself of the squalor and deprivation of low means coupled with high birth rates of bygone days. Yes better work-life balance could be achieved for many workers and their families, but theres a massive difference between providing for those unable (for whatever reason, either temporarily/permanently) to provide for themselves, to those unwilling to.

KrustyUCC

Bernard Sweeney Looking for small donations to rewrite Irish history and to record Traveller history, the book/Traveller history will get done regardless, and the donations would help a lot in making it less painful.

https://www.facebook.com/donate/2255973458024611/?fundraiser_source=external_url

I read in the star today that they reckon a house sized by the CAB worth about a million will be bought by the council to be given to a homeless family on the housing list.

It's obviously nonsense/trolling by the paper, but it makes me laugh all the same. As if the council will spend a million euro on a single house for a family. Haha.

Plumbthedepths

KrustyUCC wrote:

Bernard Sweeney Looking for small donations to rewrite Irish history and to record Traveller history, the book/Traveller history will get done regardless, and the donations would help a lot in making it less painful.

I honestly don't think this lad is playing with a full deck.

KrustyUCC

He's got 2 to donate already lol

Plumbthedepths

KrustyUCC wrote:

He's got 2 to donate already lol

Apparently idiocy loves company.

NIMAN

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Bernard Sweeney Looking for small donations to rewrite Irish history and to record Traveller history, the book/Traveller history will get done regardless, and the donations would help a lot in making it less painful.

https://www.facebook.com/donate/2255973458024611/?fundraiser_source=external_url

Why do you need money to write a book?

Surely a pen and a paper is all he needs really?

And how did he decide that €500 is the amount you need to write a book?

KrustyUCC

Good questions

Plumbthedepths

NIMAN wrote:

And how did he decide that €500 is the amount you need to write a book?

500 will buy alot of crayons.

Credit Checker Moose

NIMAN wrote: »

Why do you need money to write a book?

Surely a pen and a paper is all he needs really?

And how did he decide that €500 is the amount you need to write a book?

€500 is what a vanity publisher will charge for a limited print run.

NIMAN

Why doesn't he write the book first, then take it to various publishers?

If its a good book and would appeal to readers, he will probably get it published.

If its sh1t, they'll chase him and we won't see it.

Now if I was a betting man ......

sligojoek

It'll probably pop up on Joe Duffy's self published books of the year before xmas.

Roger Hassenforder

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I honestly don't think this lad is playing with a full deck.

Traveller seeks funding to write book about a people with poor literacy, and a strong oral tradition.
No one interested...

James Brown

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Serious socialist bang of that, someone else can pay...

I suggest 'someone else can pay' is the result of every right wing hard capitalist endevour. Look at the vulture funds, sweet deals, jobs for our own low taxes for big corporations. You may recall the bailouts of banks and bondholders.
Someone else is always paying, the tax payer. Now make it a few chancers on the dole and it's socialisms fault. Give over ffs.

freshpopcorn

Wednesday night on RTE One!
Traveller's Guide
Episode 1
New series. Documentary series that sees travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In the first episode, Paddy Collins leaves a halting site in Finglas, to experience life with the Wauja people of the Xingu River, deep in the heart of Brazil's Amazon basin.

Odelay

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Wednesday night on RTE One!
Traveller's Guide
Episode 1
New series. Documentary series that sees travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In the first episode, Paddy Collins leaves a halting site in Finglas, to experience life with the Wauja people of the Xingu River, deep in the heart of Brazil's Amazon basin.

He’s going to be in for some surprise!

Paddy Cow

suicide_circus wrote: »

I tried to wipe that dirt mark off my laptop :pac:

Paddy Cow

NIMAN wrote: »

Why doesn't he write the book first, then take it to various publishers?

If its a good book and would appeal to readers, he will probably get it published.

If its sh1t, they'll chase him and we won't see it.

Now if I was a betting man ......

He'd better get a good editor to proof read it first!

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Wednesday night on RTE One!
Traveller's Guide
Episode 1
New series. Documentary series that sees travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In the first episode, Paddy Collins leaves a halting site in Finglas, to experience life with the Wauja people of the Xingu River, deep in the heart of Brazil's Amazon basin.

Is RTE really so desperate to legitimate Travellers as an ethnic minority that they're now comparing them to indigenous tribes in the Amazon basin?

I googled the Wauja. The women don't seem to wear many clothes. Paddy is in for a bit of a shock.

Plumbthedepths

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote:

I googled the Wauja. The women don't seem to wear many clothes. Paddy is in for a bit of a shock.

Ever see a traveller wedding? They wear clothes but their bodies seem to be in the process of rejecting them.

mloc123

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Wednesday night on RTE One!
Traveller's Guide
Episode 1
New series. Documentary series that sees travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In the first episode, Paddy Collins leaves a halting site in Finglas, to experience life with the Wauja people of the Xingu River, deep in the heart of Brazil's Amazon basin.

Paddy will show them how they are missing out, should be exploiting the system more... by the time he leaves they will be claiming all relevant aid from the Brazilian gubberment.

Roger Hassenforder

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I suggest 'someone else can pay' is the result of every right wing hard capitalist endevour. Look at the vulture funds, sweet deals, jobs for our own low taxes for big corporations. You may recall the bailouts of banks and bondholders.
Someone else is always paying, the tax payer. Now make it a few chancers on the dole and it's socialisms fault. Give over ffs.

That there is someone to pay is a result of someone's endeavours.

But "muh d'banks and d bondholders" doesnt really butter the parsnips.
On your bike comrade

hurler32

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

Is RTE really so desperate to legitimate Travellers as an ethnic minority that they're now comparing them to indigenous tribes in the Amazon basin?

I googled the Wauja. The women don't seem to wear many clothes. Paddy is in for a bit of a shock.

He’ll be in for more of a shock when he hears the Wauja clan don’t get 50-60,000 in welfare payments like Irish travellers do every year ...

freshpopcorn

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

Is RTE really so desperate to legitimate Travellers as an ethnic minority that they're now comparing them to indigenous tribes in the Amazon basin?

I googled the Wauja. The women don't seem to wear many clothes. Paddy is in for a bit of a shock.

I do hope they they research this properly.
IE. They show the amount of people in these groups living on state support, types of cars they drive, % of them in prison, etc.
They'll probably wont do this tough and just say us Irish treat our ethnic minorities terribly.

SnazzyPig

sligojoek wrote: »

It'll probably pop up on Joe Duffy's self published books of the year before xmas.

It's a pop-up book?

honda boi

mloc123 wrote: »

Paddy will show them how they are missing out, should be exploiting the system more... by the time he leaves they will be claiming all relevant aid from the Brazilian gubberment.

I seriously laughed out loud at that

It wasnt me123

What did the people of the amazon basin do to them to deserve such a visit

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

mloc123 wrote: »

Paddy will show them how they are missing out, should be exploiting the system more... by the time he leaves they will be claiming all relevant aid from the Brazilian gubberment.

They'll be looking to upgrade their thatched huts to 4-bedroom detached homes with stables. Paddy will cost the Brazilian gubbermint millions.

Credit Checker Moose

Brasilia won't pay them a Real extra. Unlike our soft government here.

The Satanist

Look at this champ, mind-boggling stuff.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1033512/

A bareknuckle fighter has been ordered not to post any further videos on YouTube.

Judge Keenan Johnson made the order after footage of 28-year-old Joe Joyce hitting his wife in a garda station was shown at Tullamore Circuit Court today.

The court had been told that Mr Joyce had posted a video on YouTube where he challenged another party to a fight and held up a letter from his solicitor, Mark Cooney, Athlone.

Mr Joyce, with an address at 79 Trasna Way, Lisnaskea, Enniskillen, received a two-and-a-half year sentence for assaulting his wife Ellen at Tullamore Garda Station on 27 February, 2016.

The sentence was suspended for 10 years on condition he kept the peace, remained outside the jurisdiction and not have any interaction with YouTube.

Judge Johnson also told him to take down any existing videos within 14 days.

He made the order after a sentencing hearing was told by prosecution counsel Shane Geraghty that Mr Joyce had posted the video featuring a letter from his solicitor.

Joe Joyce told the court he did not know anything about the video and there were lots of similar videos out there.


Earlier, Judge Johnson had viewed footage from the incident in the garda station and described it as a savage attack by a thug and a bully.

Ellen Joyce told the court she accepted her husband's apology, was happy with him and their four children, and said a cut on her head that night was where an injury from a previous fall had reopened.

She attributed her husband's behaviour on YouTube videos to his medication.

Judge Johnson said if the video of him hitting his wife was put up on YouTube it would show the bully and thug he is.

Noting that Mr Joyce was also on a previous suspended sentence arising from a feud, he said the defendant was still involved in feuding, but at a distance, on videos.

He said he had seen the type of vitriol and hatred that was spread on the videos.

In the case before him, he did not wish to jail Mr Joyce and cost the taxpayer more money, so he restated a previous order that the man stay outside the jurisdiction except for three weeks each year and for family bereavements.

Dante7

He can return for family bereavements. That'll keep him out of trouble.

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

I assume this is the same Joe Joyce who was previously in the papers for abusing his wife.

A man who used a horse whip on his wife, stabbed her in the head with a set of keys, swung a phone charger at her head, and threatened to kill a woman who gave her refuge, failed in his appeal against the severity of a two year prison sentence in the Circuit Court this week (December 7).

In fact, Judge Anthony Kennedy lamented the case before him wasn’t indictable so that he could have handed down a heavier sentence for this litany of spousal abuse committed by Joe Joyce Jnr, (22), Clibborne Way, Moate, over the last number of years.

In the witness box, pleading for her husband, the tearful victim, Ellen, rescinded her statement of complaints to gardaí in which she alleged “He beats me 24/7”, and added: “I wouldn’t be keepin’ me mouth closed...an awful lot of it was me own fault”.

Joyce had been in jail since June 17, after being convicted of nine offences committed between October 2009 and April 2010.

Sergeant Cormac Moylan read out the litany of offences, which included Gardai being called to a “domestic incident” at Castleview, in Moate in November 2009.

“Ellen Joyce had a baby in her arms at home and gardai saw Mr Joyce swinging a phone charger at her head,” said Sergeant Moylan.

“When gardaí entered the house Ellen Joyce was bleeding after he stuck keys into her head.”

Ms Joyce refused to apply for a safety order, or enter a refuge, and asked gardaí to leave. The defendant then told gardaí: “The uniform won’t save you”, stripped off his shirt and “ran down the main street in Moate in the middle of November”.

The court then heard how Ellen, bleeding, sought refuge in Hawthorn House in Clonbrusk on January 8, 2010 when Joyce turned up with a length of scaffolding pole and threatened both his wife and staff member, a Mrs Mulvihill. Ellen left because “she didn’t want the house damaged”.

“At the gate he turned around and told Mrs Mulvihill she was a bad bitch and he was going to shoot her and her son the guard [Paddy, Garrycastle footballer],” said Sergeant Moylan.

“He then hit her with a whip while she was holding the baby and kicked her on the ground,” he added.

Culture, eh.

JohnnyFlash

The Satanist wrote: »

Look at this champ, mind-boggling stuff.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1033512/

Getting a suspended sentence for hitting his wife IN A GARDA STATION is really bizarre sentencing.

tuxy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Getting a suspended sentence for hitting his wife IN A GARDA STATION is really bizarre sentencing.

You forgot to say he was already on a suspended sentence at the time too.

Dante7

It's the great Joe Jr. Hulk Joyce. He was involved in the big money fight a few weeks ago. This whole story sums up traveller culture for you.

Feuds, call out videos, prize fights.
Misogyny, domestic violence, blatant disregard of the law.
Female subjugation as the victim retracts her statement and says that he's a grand fella.

All the while, this fella is venerated by fellow travellers. The wife beating aspect of his character is completely ignored. Tells you all you need to know about that culture.

tuxy

I'm very surprised by this news, he's very well respected amongst fellow travellers.

alias no.9

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I read in the star today that they reckon a house sized by the CAB worth about a million will be bought by the council to be given to a homeless family on the housing list.

It's obviously nonsense/trolling by the paper, but it makes me laugh all the same. As if the council will spend a million euro on a single house for a family. Haha.

The first* thing the council will do if they're to buy the house in question is the same as they do with every other house they buy, they will rip out all of the fixtures and fittings to have them replaced with standard council issue fixtures and fittings. Most of the million euros in question was spent on fixtures and fittings.


*By first I mean first activity, they'll likely leave it idle for an extended period before doing at all

Omackeral

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Wednesday night on RTE One!
Traveller's Guide
Episode 1
New series. Documentary series that sees Travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In the first episode, Paddy Collins leaves a halting site in Finglas, to experience life with the Wauja people of the Xingu River, deep in the heart of Brazil's Amazon basin.

Episode 2
New series. Documentary series that sees Travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In part two of this documentary, Paddy travels to Lancaster, Pennsylvania to live with an Amish family. Here, he learns of the various methods the clan have adapted from so-called settled people in a bid to thrash various Traveller camps all across Ireland.

Credit Checker Moose

That's the Pennsylvania gubberment bankrupted.

hurler32

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

What did the people of the amazon basin do to them to deserve such a visit

They have survived oil companies , global warming etc but they wont stand a chance if Paddy brings 7 or 8 of his brothers or nephews ..
There won’t be an arrow left in the amazon basin !

deaddonkey15

Omackeral wrote: »

Episode 2
New series. Documentary series that sees Travellers live with other nomadic and indigenous tribes from across the world. In part two of this documentary, Paddy travels to Lancaster, Pennsylvania to live with an Amish family. Here, he learns of the various methods the clan have adapted from so-called settled people in a bid to thrash various Traveller camps all across Ireland.

Hopefully Episode 3 will involve Paddy visiting North Sentinel Island.

Deebles McBeebles

What are RTE getting from promoting Traveller culture? Some sort of moral high ground maybe? I genuinely don't get it. Casey being roared at on the LLS, that powder puff documentary on traveller accommodation and now this.

LollipopJimmy

hurler32 wrote: »

They have survived oil companies , global warming etc but they wont stand a chance if Paddy brings 7 or 8 of his brothers or nephews ..
There won’t be an arrow left in the amazon basin !

All of a sudden there will be doorless washing machines all over the place

It wasnt me123

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Hopefully Episode 3 will involve Paddy visiting North Sentinel Island.

Jaysus don't send them there - they'll swap violent techniques and come back twice as bad - now if they get to keep them, we'll send a few more!

Actually, get boat loads of them to visit - the local people kill anyone trying to get to their island - tell Paddy they will welcome him with open arms and let them off.

Deebles McBeebles

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Hopefully Episode 3 will involve Paddy visiting North Sentinel Island.

This might just work out you know. The Islanders are very open to Christian teachings which the travellers are in to in a big way, I've been told.