Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

discobeaker

Just on a Dublin bus and overheard two women talking. One was talking about how she has 7 brats aged from 16 months to 23 years old but her sister puts Maggie to shame... Her sister has 22 Kids! Feckin Amish

gormdubhgorm

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

The sad reality is that half of Travellers are dead before the age of 40. It's hardly something to aspire to.

Sure even the infamous Maragaret Cash knows this, she has a video on her timeline of some guy telling people to talk to someone about thier problems - suicide prevention etc.
https://www.facebook.com/adamdoyle88/videos/2298828413670440/?t=125

As for the other issues you raise most of them are presented in other disadvantaged areas this is nothing new.
But travellers do have stronger family units, then the settled community, that is something the settled community have lost in my view.

gormdubhgorm

dont bother wrote: »

there Are NO redeming qualities to this so called "culture"

That sounds like the 'great white man's burden' talk from the 19th century to me.

http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_burden.htm

Gimme A Pound

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Paddy o Gorman, on today's Sean o Rourke show, interviewing a lady who was in court for shop lifting, her thoughts on shop lifting were that it's not stealing, it's borrowing, because when you buy something your giving money back to the government.

I... can't even.

Yeah and a nice chunk of money that actually goes to the government goes back to them... for doing nothing. They don't even know what they're moaning about.

tabby aspreme

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

But travellers do have stronger family units, then the settled community, that is something the settled community have lost in my view.

Would some of the results of this "stronger family unit" be the control of the girls, by arranging marriages before they can complete an education, which could give them other options in life

Sweet.Science

Stronger family units ?

Every traveller family is in a violent feud of some sort or another with each other

You should go to a christening or wedding .

Report back,

Cheers

ShaneC93

Sweet.Science wrote: »

This has all gone a bit mad now

She actually is feeling sorry for working mothers

She seems to have done a 180 on a few things recently.. There's a recent post from her knocking Sinn Fein supporters too when a couple of months back she was their biggest fan after Mary Lou promised to help her get a home at one of the protests.

Church on Tuesday

ShaneC93 wrote: »

She seems to have done a 180 on a few things recently.. There's a recent post from her knocking Sinn Fein supporters too when a couple of months back she was their biggest fan after Mary Lou promised to help her get a home at one of the protests.

To be fair, I wouldn't trust Mary Lou to make me a cup of tea.

Aul Mags will throw her support to whoever she feels will best serve her own narrow interests.

Plumbthedepths

Sweet.Science wrote:

You should go to a christening or wedding .

What is the right implement for each? Can never remember is it a slash hook for a christening or wedding?

nice_guy80

lawred2 wrote: »

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Would i be wrong in assuming she's not playing with a full deck?

she knows where the claim forms are though

That's what pavee point is for
Exercising their right to every last cent

CinemaGuy45

I have gotten to say what I wanted on this thread and I am glad boards have grown up a bit to keep this thread open.

At this stage, the thread is just repeating itself has anybody any idea of how this situation improves in a realistic fashion?

Wheeliebin30

ShaneC93 wrote: »

She seems to have done a 180 on a few things recently.. There's a recent post from her knocking Sinn Fein supporters too when a couple of months back she was their biggest fan after Mary Lou promised to help her get a home at one of the protests.

Oh what happened with Sinn Fein supporters?

Ruraldweller56

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I have gotten to say what I wanted on this thread and I am glad boards have grown up a bit to keep this thread open.

At this stage, the thread is just repeating itself has anybody any idea of how this situation improves in a realistic fashion?

My thoughts exactly

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

At this stage, the thread is just repeating itself has anybody any idea of how this situation improves in a realistic fashion?

I'd say:

1. The state should enforce the law on early school leaving. The law says that every child must remain in school until he or she is 16, so enforce that rigorously.

2. Change the law on early marriage. The minimum age for marriage should be 18, with no exceptions. This also means that the state should not recognize minors who marry abroad as being legally married in Ireland.

3. Phase out social welfare support for more than 4 children.

4. You get one offer and one offer only of social housing. If the offer is declined, unless it's for a valid reason, you don't get another one.

That would address the core issues that led to Margaret Cash's current situation.

nice_guy80

Reduce the VAT on condoms

tuxy

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Reduce the VAT on condoms

As I said already travellers take the official line from the catholic church on contraception being intrinsically evil.

You might say but the church also says stealing is wrong!

Sure but settled Catholics pick and chose parts of the religion too.
If both pick and choose is one take on Catholicism more legitimate than the other?

ShaneC93

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

4. You get one offer and one offer only of social housing. If the offer is declined, unless it's for a valid reason, you don't get another one.

They'd need to set strict guidelines on what a 'valid' reason is too.

Declining a house because it's not in your preferred area should not be a valid reason! Like the story of social housing being built in Dundrum - one of the more expensive housing markets in the country. People should not be guaranteed or even told it's a good possibility to get a house within a few KM radius of where they want it.

I could understand declining a move to a whole other part of the country if they've kids in school etc. but a move within a city or even to another suburb or towns in Kildare/Wicklow/Meath with good transport connections for Dublin-based people should have no reason to be declined.

TheRealPONeil

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Stronger family units ?

Every traveller family is in a violent feud of some sort or another with each other

You should go to a christening or wedding .

Report back,

Cheers

So you've personal experiences in that area or are you relying on a kind of a fallenlondon type validation by boards.ie ??

tuxy

Has anyone heard of this before? Murphy Village in South Carolina, taken over by Irish Travellers.
Mad houses that they don't move into for ages to try and avoid tax and lots of other crazy stories

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=murphy+village

CinemaGuy45

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Reduce the VAT on condoms

Well, we got a laugh from that post cannot fault that.:)

TheRealPONeil

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

I'd say:

1. The state should enforce the law on early school leaving. The law says that every child must remain in school until he or she is 16, so enforce that rigorously.

ARTICLE 42

1 The State acknowledges that the primary and natural educator of the child is the Family and guarantees to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.

2 Parents shall be free to provide this education in their homes or in private schools or in schools recognised or established by the State.

3 1° The State shall not oblige parents in violation of their conscience and lawful preference to send their children to schools established by the State, or to any particular type of school designated by the State.

2° The State shall, however, as guardian of the common good, require in view of actual conditions that the children receive a certain minimum education, moral, intellectual and social.

2. Change the law on early marriage. The minimum age for marriage should be 18, with no exceptions. This also means that the state should not recognize minors who marry abroad as being legally married in Ireland.

So you're a minor at 20 in the USA if you want to drink your head off but if you want to get married in Utah you can be 15 ??

3. Phase out social welfare support for more than 4 children.

Spoken like a true blue shirt

4. You get one offer and one offer only of social housing. If the offer is declined, unless it's for a valid reason, you don't get another one.

Spoken like a true blue shirt


That would address the core issues that led to Margaret Cash's current situation.

Spoken like a true blue shirt

tabby aspreme

tuxy wrote: »

Has anyone heard of this before? Murphy Village in South Carolina, taken over by Irish Travellers.
Mad houses that they don't move into for ages to try and avoid tax and lots of other crazy stories

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=murphy+village

There was a documentary about it a few years ago on TV3 . They have been getting a lot of attention from US law enforcement recently

Filmer Paradise

Mad_maxx wrote: »

The kids tag along on "jobs" and are useful for narrow windows

No hope for any kid born into that environment. Maybe some of the Cash kids, in 10 years time, might break down Miriam's front door some night to rob her blind.

That would be karma!

All part of their culture of course.

We pay for their lifestyle. Do we want this state of affairs to continue?

What good is their culture to anyone anyway?

It's not worth a shiney sh1ie to anyone. They are all beyond worthless at this stage.

IT. IS. ALL. THEIR. OWN. FAULT.

Church on Tuesday

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Reduce the VAT on condoms

Sure you can get condoms in dealz for 1.50!

There's really no excuse.

Filmer Paradise

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Sure you can get condoms in dealz for 1.50!

There's really no excuse.

Doesn't matter to them. They can have as much inbred offspring as they like.

Demand any kind of house they like & get it.

These violent inbreeds love having things their own way & get all they want because we the taxpayer fund it.


We pay for a criminal subset to live off our taxes. Not alone that, these inbreeds decide to break into taxpayer's houses to bully them to give them more!

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Yes, I call them Inbreeds, because that is exactly what they are.

The more we give them, the more they take & take & rob all around them.

Where's all the 'respected elders' in their community we hear about?

Obviously, they're not worth their weight in bird poo by the way their younger folk act.:mad:

hurler32

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/judge-dismisses-mans-60k-claim-that-high-heels-were-to-blame-for-sisters-car-crash-37606241.html

Another day yet another traveller involved in another disputed personal injury claim .
What percentage of travellers have had s personal injury claim ???
Not happy to get very large welfare payments and refusing to work but they are driving up insurance costs for the law abiding population going to work to pay for all the travellers welfare

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

TheRealPONeil wrote: »

The State acknowledges that the primary and natural educator of the child is the Family and guarantees to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.

Parents must actually be capable of providing this education. The state reserves the right to inspect home schooling parents to ensure they are educating their children to an appropriate standard. Many Traveller parents are uneducated and barely literate themselves, so how can they educate their children?

So you're a minor at 20 in the USA if you want to drink your head off but if you want to get married in Utah you can be 15 ??

Not sure what your point is here. I don't support anyone getting married at 15. As I have stated above, the minimum age for marriage should be 18. No more child brides.

Spoken like a true blue shirt

Call everyone who criticizes the current level of social welfare entitlement a "blueshirt"? Great debating strategy...

It's these "blueshirts," by the way, who recognized Travellers as an ethnic minority and are handing out record levels of social welfare.

patrickbrophy18

Given the amount of posts in this thread, I don't know if anyone has commented yet about the irony of someone with the name "Cash" robbing "€300" worth of clothes from a "Pennys".

mikhail

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

Given the amount of posts in this thread, I don't know if anyone has commented yet about the irony of someone with the name "Cash" robbing "€300" worth of clothes from a "Pennys".

That's not what irony means.

Kevin Finnerty

mikhail wrote: »

That's not what irony means.

How do you know his real name?

Deebles McBeebles

Lads, its Penneys.

Minds blown.

VinLieger

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Lads, its Penneys.

Minds blown.

Indeed 300 quid from penny's...... is she some sort of pack mule? like that's gotta be 6-7 black bags full of clothes

Deebles McBeebles

VinLieger wrote: »

Indeed 300 quid from penny's...... is she some sort of pack mule? like that's gotta be 6-7 black bags full of clothes

No I just meant its spelled Penneys. Took me 206 pages to get that off my chest.

Roger Hassenforder

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

No I just meant its spelled Penneys. Took me 206 pages to get that off my chest.

Thread will never be the same again.

Jerichoholic

mikhail wrote: »

That's not what irony means.

Is it a rainy day on your wedding day?

The perfect example of irony.

NIMAN

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Is it a rainy day on your wedding day?

The perfect example of irony.

Or winning the lottery and dying the next day?

Deebles McBeebles

The ironing is delicious!

Jerichoholic

NIMAN wrote: »

Or winning the lottery and dying the next day?

Textbook

tuxy

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

The ironing is delicious!

€300 of clothing from Penneys would keep you ironing for some time!

Jerichoholic

tuxy wrote: »

€300 of clothing from Penneys would keep you ironing for some time!

I'm sure she gets a handout for some sort of maid allowance.

Sweet.Science

Would anyone take a few years living in emergency accommodation, BnBs , Hotels etc in order to get a free 3/4 bed house

I was thinking it about it over the weekend, i sure would . Instead of job,house and maybe kids i could have gone kids,house and maybe a job.

Boom_Bap

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Would anyone take a few years living in emergency accommodation, BnBs , Hotels etc in order to get a free 3/4 bed house

I was thinking it about it over the weekend, i sure would . Instead of job,house and maybe kids i could have gone kids,house and maybe a job.

I'm not sure that you have a proper picture of what living in the hotels and B&B's is

Sweet.Science

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I'm not sure that you have a proper picture of what living in the hotels and B&B's is

Beds , shower , toilet , tv all free of charge for a few years until you get a free 300k house.

Its hardly like going to Syria

Boom_Bap

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Beds , shower , toilet , tv all free of charge for a few years until you get a free 300k house.

Its hardly like going to Syria

Yes, you don't have a proper picture.
Laundry, meals, curfews, segregation, rules, parking...some other things to consider before the mental health of all those in your family that you are sharing a room with.

Sweet.Science

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Yes, you don't have a proper picture.
Laundry, meals, curfews, segregation, rules, parking...some other things to consider before the mental health of all those in your family that you are sharing a room with.

Doesnt really sound like hell on Earth . I think i'd survive knowing the next 40 years will be mortgage free

Church on Tuesday

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

No I just meant its spelled Penneys. Took me 206 pages to get that off my chest.

Technically speaking it's Primark...

Edit: Actually I'm wrong on that

Quazzie

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Technically speaking it's Primark...

Technically speaking Primark is an English version of Penneys, and it was Penneys which came first. So you're wrong

Church on Tuesday

Quazzie wrote: »

Technically speaking Primark is an English version of Penneys, and it was Penneys which came first. So you're wrong

Just googled it, yup you're absolutely right.

Never knew that. Mind blown. Always assumed it was a subsidiary of Primark :pac:

Deebles McBeebles

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Just googled it, yup you're absolutely right.

Never knew that. Mind blown. Always assumed it was a subsidiary of Primark :pac:

See? Another mind blown.

Boom_Bap

Primark is actually the outside of Ireland name because trademark issues with the name Penneys in Europe. I believe that the company is using Primark also outside of Europe.