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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 6) *Read Mod Note in Post 1* Revised 13-01-19

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    #452
    ricero
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    JJayoo wrote: »
    Cowboy says he is moving to 155 after the Perry fight.

    McG Vs Cowboy is a very very marketable fight and one McG can win comfortably. Cowboy is very drained at 155.

    The UFC could have McG beat Cowboy and then fight Diaz which could give them a full 12 months of McG hype, would make a lot of money.

    Cowboy is finished at the top level.

    Whatever is left of his soul will be taken by Mike Perry this Saturday in his hometown.


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    #453
    Autecher
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    JJayoo wrote: »
    Cowboy says he is moving to 155 after the Perry fight.

    McG Vs Cowboy is a very very marketable fight and one McG can win comfortably. Cowboy is very drained at 155.

    The UFC could have McG beat Cowboy and then fight Diaz which could give them a full 12 months of McG hype, would make a lot of money.
    According To Cerrone when he was a lightweight he signed a contract or agreed to that fight 3 times but Conor turned them down. I've no idea if that's true or not but he said it in an interview once.


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    #454
    JJayoo
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    ricero wrote: »
    Cowboy is finished at the top level.

    Whatever is left of his soul will be taken by Mike Perry this Saturday in his hometown.

    Exactly......perfect for McG to build a fight and hype. You would get a big build up and McG would make some serious change


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    #455
    dulux99
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    Cowboy is up and down from lw to ww like a yo-yo. McGregors stock would fall alot amongst MMA fans if he took that fight these days.


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    #456
    BigMo1
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    Cowboy is up and down from lw to ww like a yo-yo. McGregors stock would fall alot amongst MMA fans if he took that fight these days.

    Don't agree with this tbh. Hardcore fans might scoff at a Cowboy fight (me included) but McGregor against one of the top 10 most well-known fighters in the UFC would sell lots. Wouldn't be surprised if it happened.


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    #457
    dulux99
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    BigMo1 wrote: »
    Don't agree with this tbh. Hardcore fans might scoff at a Cowboy fight (me included) but McGregor against one of the top 10 most well-known fighters in the UFC would sell lots. Wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

    That's not what I said though, I didn't mention anything about the fight not selling. His stock amongst MMA fans, people who know the sport, would fall if he goes from fighting the top dog in the division to a washed up, battle weary Cerrone. The one thing that has been constant about McGregor in the last few years is he has almost always taken the hard route when it comes to picking fights. Fighting Cerrone next would be the polar opposite of that, he'd be taking a nice cushy easy win.


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    #458
    JJayoo
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    The one thing that has been constant about McGregor in the last few years is he has almost always taken the hard route .

    Like boxing Flyod?
    Or fighting Diaz twice?
    Or taking 2 years off from mma?


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    #459
    dulux99
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    JJayoo wrote: »
    Like boxing Flyod?
    Or fighting Diaz twice?
    Or taking 2 years off from mma?

    He fought the best boxer of the generation

    The first Diaz fight was borne out of the lightweight champion pulling out of a scheduled fight on short notice ,plus he went up a weight class. He got beat and insisted on a rematch at 170

    He's alot of things but absolutely not afraid of a challenge. He was calling out Aldo since before he was even in the UFC.


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    #460
    Mellor
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    cliggg wrote: »
    According To Cerrone when he was a lightweight he signed a contract or agreed to that fight 3 times but Conor turned them down. I've no idea if that's true or not but he said it in an interview once.
    I'd imagine it's nonsense. Conor moved up to LW to fight for the title. And won the title in his first official LW fight. I don't believe Cowboy was given a contract for a title fight, so when was he supposedly offered this fight.

    Possible that he was considered to fill in once RDA got injured. But that's not the same as saying he signed.


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    #461
    BigMo1
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    That's not what I said though, I didn't mention anything about the fight not selling. His stock amongst MMA fans, people who know the sport, would fall if he goes from fighting the top dog in the division to a washed up, battle weary Cerrone. The one thing that has been constant about McGregor in the last few years is he has almost always taken the hard route when it comes to picking fights. Fighting Cerrone next would be the polar opposite of that, he'd be taking a nice cushy easy win.

    I agree with most of that but I don't think his stock goes down much, if at all. Cowboy is no Denis Siver and Conor taking a winnable yet challenging fight may be exactly what he needs.

    Anthony Pettis is another who comes to mind who arguably makes more sense.


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    #462
    AbusesToilets
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    Pettis would be a solid fight. He looked pretty good against Ferguson and has no shortage of ability.


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    #463
    Useful.Idiot
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    Tony, Poirier and Aldo make the most sense. I doubt Conor would fight anyone other than those three.


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    #464
    xtal191
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    Pettis and Cerrone are finished at the top if it was 3/4 years ago I'd have loved to have seen those fights but now, no thank you.

    They don't deserve a fight with Conor and I'd hate if he wasted a fight on either of them, there's so many better options for him


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    #465
    Commanchie
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    AbusesToilets wrote: »
    Pettis would be a solid fight. He looked pretty good against Ferguson and has no shortage of ability.

    Pettis looked glld for about 80 seconds. He was dominated by Tony IMO


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    #466
    mangobob
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    JJayoo wrote: »
    Like boxing Flyod?
    Or fighting Diaz twice?
    Or taking 2 years off from mma?

    Ah come on now. None of those are evidence of Conor taking the easy road. Not even remotely. If anything they are clear evidence of the opposite.

    As has been said above, switching to a completely different sport in order to fight one of the greatest boxers of his generation in pure boxing, despite never having had a professional boxing match in his life, is the absolute antithesis of taking the easy road. Yeah the ref stopped the fight in the 10th and he lost. But that's like someone making their professional debut (not just their UFC debut but their actual MMA debut) and opting to fight an older Jon Jones in a 5 round match for the very first time and then going 4 rounds with him. Whatever you think about it being a mismatch or joke fight, it cannot possibly be construed as seeking an easy way out.

    His fight against Nate involved him accepting a last minute change of opponent who was radically different to the guy he had been preparing for. To do so he had to move up to a weight class he never fought at before and all of this after a pretty debilitating staph infection - well thats just fupping ridiculously ballsy.

    When he was beaten and embarrassed by Nate, he made zero excuses and insisted on a rematch with the same guy who had so clearly demonstrated that he was a terrible match up for him - mentally unflappable, very tall and rangy, incredible cardio, granite chin with an excellent ground game and superb boxing. And he did it at the same weight class that so obviously doesn't suit him to prove a point, whereas any other fighter would have insisted it happen at his natural weight class.

    As for the two years issue - yeah, he was completely gone from the sport for 2 years then on his return immediately demanded a fight with a guy who everyone knew was an absolute nightmare match up for him for his first bout back. Thats ballsy bordering on stupid.

    Conor can be rightfully accused of a number of things, but taking the easy road would never, ever be one of them.


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    #467
    Useful.Idiot
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    Commanchie wrote: »
    Pettis looked glld for about 80 seconds. He was dominated by Tony IMO

    Yep. He came out of his best moment of the fight bleeding profusely and he lost dominant position on the ground almost straight away.


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    #468
    Commanchie
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    Useful.Idiot wrote: »
    Yep. He came out of his best moment of the fight bleeding profusely and he lost dominant position on the ground almost straight away.

    Yeah i felt in that period he tried to rush the finish, in doing so was very flustered and tony hurt him and backed him up. I believe he gave up on his chair,not sure he was as hurt as he said.


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    #469
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Useful.Idiot wrote: »
    Tony, Poirier and Aldo make the most sense. I doubt Conor would fight anyone other than those three.

    How on earth does a fight with Aldo make sense? It'll be one of Ferguson or Porrier imo


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    #470
    Commanchie
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    How on earth does a fight with Aldo make sense? It'll be one of Ferguson or Porrier imo

    U not think Diaz ?


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    #471
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Commanchie wrote: »
    U not think Diaz ?

    I don't. I think it'll be a contender.


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    #472
    dulux99
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    How on earth does a fight with Aldo make sense? It'll be one of Ferguson or Porrier imo

    Aldo coming off a big win, McGregor coming off a big loss, Aldo finally moving to 155 where we might see somewhat of a rebirth for him. Needless to say all the history there. They could do worse tbh.


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    #473
    rob316
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    Aldo coming off a big win, McGregor coming off a big loss, Aldo finally moving to 155 where we might see somewhat of a rebirth for him. Needless to say all the history there. They could do worse tbh.

    Beating Stephens is a big win?


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    #474
    JJayoo
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    rob316 wrote: »
    Beating Stephens is a big win?

    Of course he is omg he's like part of McGs biggest putdown so he's a big deal.


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    #475
    dulux99
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    It was one of the most memorable moments of the year for me anyway. Aldo on a serious slide and many (including me) had written him off. Stephens was flying at the time. Great finish and seriously emotional scenes after.

    The other names bandied about are Ferguson and Pettis. Ferguson deserves to fight Khabib next, never before has a fighter deserved a title fight. Pettis ... Meh


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    #476
    EagererBeaver
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    Cowboy is up and down from lw to ww like a yo-yo. McGregors stock would fall alot amongst MMA fans if he took that fight these days.

    He moved up from LW to WW nearly three years ago. Since then he has fought exclusively at WW.

    Your yo-yos can't have been much fun as a kid.


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    #477
    JJayoo
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    He moved up from LW to WW nearly three years ago. Since then he has fought exclusively at WW.

    Your yo-yos can't have been much fun as a kid.

    Lol


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    #478
    Ultimate Seduction
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    It was one of the most memorable moments of the year for me anyway. Aldo on a serious slide and many (including me) had written him off. Stephens was flying at the time. Great finish and seriously emotional scenes after.

    The other names bandied about are Ferguson and Pettis. Ferguson deserves to fight Khabib next, never before has a fighter deserved a title fight. Pettis ... Meh

    You can't be serious?


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    #479
    dulux99
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    You can't be serious?

    I can

    Your suggestions are Ferguson or Pettis. I think making Ferguson fight another fight before a title shot, from a sporting standpoint, would be totally unnecessary. From a sporting standpoint it's hard to even argue that McGregor deserves a crack at Ferguson. He was totally dominated by Khabib. Iaquinta was more competitive than McGregor was. McGregor needs to work his way up again. Now in saying that, Ferguson would probably love a McGregor fight for the payday.

    I can see the argument for McGregor vs Pettis. It just doesn't do a whole lot for me personally.


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    #480
    ricero
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    I reckon it's Diaz part 3 next


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    #481
    Ultimate Seduction
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    dulux99 wrote: »
    I can

    Your suggestions are Ferguson or Pettis. I think making Ferguson fight another fight before a title shot, from a sporting standpoint, would be totally unnecessary. From a sporting standpoint it's hard to even argue that McGregor deserves a crack at Ferguson. He was totally dominated by Khabib. Iaquinta was more competitive than McGregor was. McGregor needs to work his way up again. Now in saying that, Ferguson would probably love a McGregor fight for the payday.

    I can see the argument for McGregor vs Pettis. It just doesn't do a whole lot for me personally.

    I meant that aldo beating a journey man was the highlight of your year.


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