After Hours Presidential Election Poll

Pa8301

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

My local td?????

What in God’s name are they gonna do about travellers robbing the whole country blind.

Christ no wonder people like Trunp get voted in.

In fairness, your local TD would probably be able to get more done than the President.

Collie D

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

My local td?????

What in God’s name are they gonna do about travellers robbing the whole country blind.

Christ no wonder people like Trunp get voted in.

A lot more than the President will or can do.

If people are voting for Casey because they think he'll do whatever about anything they'll be disappointed.

dr.fuzzenstein

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

My local td?????

What in God’s name are they gonna do about travellers robbing the whole country blind.

Christ no wonder people like Trunp get voted in.

More than the President, whose role is almost entirely symbolic to represent Ireland to the world.
Voting for a president to tackle the traveller issue is like turning the oven on to watch TV.

Atoms for Peace

Maybe the general population are getting sick of the biased lecturing by the media and the cosy consenus politics.

Laois_Man

It's a bit baffling to me that a poll for an election, where the only real function of person who wins said election is public speaking, is being led here by the candidate who is by far the most incompetent, stuttering public speaker on the ticket.

And all because he pulled a yarn as a stunt in desperation and a surprising number of people are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

Raging_Ninja

Laois_Man wrote: »

It's a bit baffling to me that a poll for an election, where the only real function of person who wins said election is public speaking, is being led here by the candidate who is by far the most incompetent, stuttering public speaker on the ticket.

And all because he pulled a yarn as a stunt in desperation and a surprising number of people are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

Is it "falling for it" if his words reflect the resentment and anger that a lot of people genuinely feel?

Laois_Man

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

Is it "falling for it" if his words reflect the resentment and anger that a lot of people genuinely feel?

Yes, because it's still a pure stunt!

And one that had caused many people to completely overlook the fact that he's actually incompetent for the job description!

Agricola

After his performance on Claire Byrne the other night, I wouldn't let Casey anywhere near the job. He's seems like a complete spoofer and an inarticulate one at that. You'd get more sense out of a drunken eget at the counter in your local.

If we must persist with having a president, then Michael D is the only choice.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I voted for Micky D yesterday on the grounds that he's most likely going to win, the position of president is meaningless and if he lost we'd have to pay a new president a salary and this old bollox a pension.

So I'm hoping the country will save paying both a pension and a salary for a pointless and completely meaningless president.

So there. I voted for Micky D, although if the position of president meant anything he'd be the last of the bunch I'd have voted for.

suicide_circus

Agricola wrote: »

After his performance on Claire Byrne the other night, I wouldn't let Casey anywhere near the job. He's seems like a complete spoofer and an inarticulate one at that. You'd get more sense out of a drunken eget at the counter in your local.

If we must persist with having a president, then Michael D is the only choice.

they're all spoofers

autumn2018

Lionel Fierce Ballroom wrote: »

I voted for Micky D yesterday on the grounds that he's most likely going to win, the position of president is meaningless and if he lost we'd have to pay a new president a salary and this old bollox a pension.

So I'm hoping the country will save paying both a pension and a salary for a pointless and completely meaningless president.

So there. I voted for Micky D, although if the position of president meant anything he'd be the last of the bunch I'd have voted for.

peter casey is not going to take the presidential salary,
and is going to cut out the wasteful spending in the áras
ie 10 k for dog grooming

Butcher Boy

autumn2018 wrote: »

peter casey is not going to take the presidential salary,
and is going to cut out the wasteful spending in the áras
ie 10 k for dog grooming

10 k for grooming a ****ing dog i would shoot the **** first and then the dog.

FrancieBrady

autumn2018 wrote: »

peter casey is not going to take the presidential salary,

Correct. Not unless he breaks in and steals it.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Butcher Boy wrote: »

10 k for grooming a ****ing dog i would shoot the **** first and then the dog.

That's not a very nice thing to say about Sabina :pac:

tacofries

At odds of 100/1 it is well worth putting a few euros on Casey imo.

Zaph

autumn2018 wrote: »

peter casey is not going to take the presidential salary,
and is going to cut out the wasteful spending in the s
ie 10 k for dog grooming

That 10k comes from fully audited figures of spending in the Áras, does it? Because as I understand it those figures won't be made available until next month at the earliest. And big deal if Casey isn't going to take a salary if elected, that doesn't make him any more qualified for the job than if he did take a salary. He's a bullsh*tter of the highest order who has seen that brash, populist pronouncements have helped Trump, The League in Italy and so on, and decided that with his whole 2% in the polls he had nothing to lose. He also seems to have failed to recognise the fact that none of the stuff he's been sh*ting on about like rural broadband falls anywhere near the remit of the president. Although to be fair, he's not alone there as most of the other candidates are guilty of that too. They'll be sorely disappointed if they win and then the government suddenly tells them that they should have read the job spec a bit more carefully before applying for the position.

autumn2018

Zaph wrote: »

That 10k comes from fully audited figures of spending in the Áras, does it? Because as I understand it those figures won't be made available until next month at the earliest. And big deal if Casey isn't going to take a salary if elected, that doesn't make him any more qualified for the job than if he did take a salary. He's a bullsh*tter of the highest order who has seen that brash, populist pronouncements have helped Trump, The League in Italy and so on, and decided that with his whole 2% in the polls he had nothing to lose. He also seems to have failed to recognise the fact that none of the stuff he's been sh*ting on about like rural broadband falls anywhere near the remit of the president. Although to be fair, he's not alone there as most of the other candidates are guilty of that too. They'll be sorely disappointed if they win and then the government suddenly tells them that they should have read the job spec a bit more carefully before applying for the position.

ya but how do we get the deplorables to vote the right way

pjohnson

autumn2018 wrote: »

ya but how do we get the deplorables to vote the right way

Speak against travellers?


He should really have had a pop at welfare today and immigrants tomorrow if he really wanted to stay in the limelight. Get the whole trinity mentioned.

bassy

im voting for michael salmon swinfords finest................................................................................

paw patrol

pjohnson wrote: »

Speak against travellers?


He should really have had a pop at welfare today and immigrants tomorrow if he really wanted to stay in the limelight. Get the whole trinity mentioned.

one issue at a time...our hero is just keeping his powder dry.

Annasopra

paw patrol wrote: »

I'll answer this , if I may.

I agree the presidential race has little connection to travellers but here we are. He spoke an opinion (unpopular in media/political circles) that many people agree with and he was lashed out of it....all angles all sides....

AND - this is the clincher - he not only refused to apologise or backtrack...he doubled down…as they say.


that's a person I'd vote for a person of conviction a rarity in public life in Ireland.

If that makes me a fool , fool me twice baby!

And he said that if he gets elected he cant make similar comments again. So yes you would be fooled badly.

super_furry

Think this shows just how increasingly out of sync AH is with Irish society.

AudreyHepburn

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

Is it "falling for it" if his words reflect the resentment and anger that a lot of people genuinely feel?

Absolutely because saying what we’re all thinking doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the right man for the job.

Do you all not realize that if he gets into office, which he won’t anyway, he won’t be able to speak so openly anymore?

Wanderer78

Entertainment for the campaign but won't make much of a difference on election day, he ll disappear afterwards

McMurphy

dudara wrote: »

Define us and them - unemployed vs workers, Irish vs non-nationals, women vs men, Christians vs jews??

Who is us and who is them? To someone on the other side of a fence, you’re “them”. Where does it stop?

I think this is exactly what Casey was saying.

It's not about giving a fellow Irishman special status as an ethnic minority, they're fellow Irishmen and women.

We're all the same, and we should all be expected to live in the same state with equal statuses and be bound by the same laws.

That's the opposite of a us and them narrative if you ask me.

AnneFrank

Peter Casey is the Irish Joseph goebbels

McMurphy

AnneFrank wrote: »

Peter Casey is the Irish Joseph goebbels

Wasn't Goebells the Nazis propaganda genius?

ThebitterLemon

AnneFrank wrote: »

Peter Casey is the Irish Joseph goebbels

There’s some crap posted and then you have this...

TbL

AnneFrank

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Wasn't Goebells the Nazis propaganda genius?

That's the man, picked on Jews like Casey is picking on travellers,

suicide_circus

AnneFrank wrote: »

That's the man, picked on Jews like Casey is picking on travellers,

you could change your username to Frog Ward in hysterical solidarity

yosser hughes

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Absolutely because saying what we’re all thinking doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the right man for the job.

Do you all not realize that if he gets into office, which he won’t anyway, he won’t be able to speak so openly anymore?

Right man for the job? Nobody cares. The two largest partys haven't bothered to field a candidate of their own.Just to save money. That tells you how much they value the office of President.

DavidLyons_

AnneFrank wrote: »

Peter Casey is the Irish Joseph goebbels

The problem with your rather moronic assertion here is that the Jewish people of pre-WW2 Germany (and indeed Europe) were hardworking, productive members of society.

What Peter appears to be telling us is that what we currently have here within our society is an element of society who do not wish to work or pay taxes. Who are represented massively disproportionately in our prison system. Who seek to pursue a lifestyle choice for which they expect the taxpayers to fund.

And they have been given special status by the state against the wishes of a large part of the population.

I would hate to be so stupid as to not be able to see the absolute difference.

Casey may not win, but a good turnout for him will send a nice strong message.

VOTE PETER CASEY NO. 1.

McMurphy

AnneFrank wrote: »

That's the man, picked on Jews like Casey is picking on travellers,

See my post above.

What Casey was saying is the absolute opposite of picking on one section of society, by calling for us all to.bd treated equals.

All bound by the same laws of the state with the same rights.

weldoninhio

dudara wrote: »

Michael D all the way for me so far.

Casey is using his platform to sow division & hatred, creating an “us vs them” mindset. I don’t want that. It’s a slippery slope.

Could you explain this part?? Do you think he deliberately made the Irish Independent ask him the question he answered honestly???

weldoninhio

listermint wrote: »

No I'm laughing at it.

It's great.

It's like an episode of glenroe.

I'm actually loving it, this fellas managed to rile the village and he's lapping it up .


Don't fret though it'll be the last of his traveller comments once he's in the park.

As I said I don't care about the traveller issue. Or what he said . It's the fact you've been taken in by it


Excellent

There's only one person I can see riled up in here. So are you FG, FF or Labour??

Idbatterim

I wasn’t even going to vote In the election until Peter Casey piped up. The alternatives usual establishment more of the same bull****... a vote for him will be a protest one!

We now live on n a country where if you deviate even a tad from the liberal left and it’s agenda , you’re some right wing lunatic! Also Leo Varadkar has made a plea not to vote for Casey, the biggest reason yet to vote for him !

weldoninhio

listermint wrote: »

No in my appraisal.

This fella read that article last week about the situation in Tipp and said .il have a piece of that.

You heard it and said oh thank lord someone answered my prayers.

He gets your vote moves in gets a nice day salary. You don't hear another peep about travelers and nothing changes


This is classic snake oil sales pitch.

They used to run these skits on little house on the prairie. It's classic Hollywood trope how in the hell are people with access to the knowledge of the internet falling for this , really, in this day and age

So are you claiming that he made the Irish Independent ask him that question on their podcast, oh wise one?

weldoninhio

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ah now, Casey only said stuff. He hasn't actually done anything about it. He's a dreamer.

He said that all people in Ireland should be treated equally. I take it you disagree with this??

SEPT 23 1989

Apologies to any Jews reading this thread

FrancieBrady

weldoninhio wrote: »

He said that all people in Ireland should be treated equally. I take it you disagree with this??

Yes I agree with that. But some people, and some sections of society have been so marginalised and badly treated that we have a deficit to make up.

Like those abused by the state, or those generationally marginalised or suppressed, I see it as part of my responsibility as a citizen to equalise their circumstances.
I fully understand that they create problems in society btw.

weldoninhio

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes I agree with that. But some people, and some sections of society have been so marginalised and badly treated that we have a deficit to make up.

Like those abused by the state, or those generationally marginalised or suppressed, I see it as part of my responsibility as a citizen to equalise their circumstances.
I fully understand that they create problems in society btw.

When did Casey say this shouldn't happen??

ThebitterLemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes I agree with that. But some people, and some sections of society have been so marginalised and badly treated that we have a deficit to make up.

Like those abused by the state, or those generationally marginalised or suppressed, I see it as part of my responsibility as a citizen to equalise their circumstances.
I fully understand that they create problems in society btw.

So can you please elaborate on how we should “equalize”

What form should it take and how long should it go on for.

I think that it’s a poor and divisive approach.

Where’s there a wrong, you acknowledge it, but to create further differences is just creating further division.

TbL

Ri_Nollaig

_Brian wrote: »

Ireland needs to be very careful where we move from here.

This poll would suggest we should vote someone in as president based on nothing but it would seem a hatred of tue traveller community.

Now there is a name for that behaviour and it’s how tin pot leaders from Trump to Hitler came to power. It would send a shocking message out about ourselves.

How long till we’re voting in politicians who mention blacks, Arabs, Muslims, Nigerians ??

There are a hell of allot of people unemployed and not paying taxes other than travellers, more criminals than travellers and I’d wager that JP Mc Manus dodges more tax here annually than travellers do.

Where has he implied a "hatred of travellers"
Please point that out to me?

He got attention by actually having the balls to say it was a joke what was happening in Tipperary regarding the houses and [lack of] stables all paid for by the council. Followed on by the idea of their ethnicity. Have we really reached the stage where even just questioning anything is immediately shut down as 'racist'? And where the blanks can get filled in with what ever words suit an agenda and lazy comparisons to Hilter.

I seriously doubt he will win but god I hope he does...

Also, I'd imagine JP McManus has paid a lot more tax then any traveller ever has! I have no doubt he avoids as much as he can, but even the unavoidable amount is still probably huge.

Uncharted

Casey wont win,but his remarks have acted as a lightning rod for hard working,decent tax payers on this island.

It's two fingers to the lefty media and it's hordes of hypocrite followers and feeders.

Fair play to him.

FrancieBrady

weldoninhio wrote: »

When did Casey say this shouldn't happen??

He waded into something in a way designed to arouse the worst emotions in society.
The correct way to do it would have been to identify the problem and offer solutions to it. That is 'leadership' that is 'representing' the people.
He enflamed some of the people, that cohort that is always waiting to be enflamed - to absolutely no end but to crash and burn.

q85dw7osi4lebg

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He waded into something in a way designed to arouse the worst emotions in society.
The correct way to do it would have been to identify the problem and offer solutions to it. That is 'leadership' that is 'representing' the people.
He enflamed some of the people, that cohort that is always waiting to be enflamed - to absolutely no end but to crash and burn.

If you have all the solutions, why didn't you run yourself?

FrancieBrady

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

So can you please elaborate on how we should “equalize”

What form should it take and how long should it go on for.

I think that it’s a poor and divisive approach.

Where’s there a wrong, you acknowledge it, but to create further differences is just creating further division.

TbL

That is what you should be asking Casey.

Necro

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Nothing at all. But to say the fact that he shares your views automatically makes him the right candidate for the presidency is ridiculous.

Whatever about who people are voting for, I'd say that's pretty much exactly how people should be voting, for views that align with their own :pac:

FrancieBrady

Sariah Tall Babe wrote: »

If you have all the solutions, why didn't you run yourself?

Who said I 'have all the solutions'?

Keeping a society civil is an ongoing and never ending process of work.
I have never seen any of societies problems sorted out by pontificating millionaires engaging in crash and burn hate speech. Casey knew when he went to Tipp that he was tapping into discontent, and he is wallowing in it to massage his ego.

weldoninhio

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He waded into something in a way designed to arouse the worst emotions in society.
The correct way to do it would have been to identify the problem and offer solutions to it. That is 'leadership' that is 'representing' the people.
He enflamed some of the people, that cohort that is always waiting to be enflamed - to absolutely no end but to crash and burn.

By waded into, do you mean answered a question he was asked??