Madeleine McCann

happyoutscan

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

The Portugese police - from the beginning - were out to protect the integrity of their tourism value.

Nothing more.

The fact that they left their kids alone was a bonus for Amaral, giving him the ammo to advance this nonsense.

He's an absolute cretin of a human being.

OwlsZat

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

happyoutscan wrote: »

The fact that they left their kids alone was a bonus for Amaral, giving him the ammo to advance this nonsense.

The fact that they neglected to care for their children ranks them higher up the likelihood they were responsible for her death. Directly or indirectly. Amaral is obviously a fool all the same.

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

What could be a more interesting predicament in this particular scenario? I would think that this is a much stronger line of inquiry.

When the news came out regarding the drunking slurr.

There was little else known. Bar he was a child rapist.

Creaming began.

So when you compare that to the hundreds of problems that's been brought up over the years. That's fck all. But it didn't stop the cheer leaders creaming themselves.

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limnam wrote: »

Considering they past it on _13_ years ago.

I guess he did.

Why he said 12 _months_ ago he'd be stitched.

Thats not so obvious.

It’s highly likely that the investigation into CB would have been ongoing for some time before it was publicly announced he was a suspect. The German police would be acutely aware of the coverage around this case and would want to make sure that they had their ducks in a row because they know that conspiracy theorists will trawl over everything they saw and rip it out of context so this case would have been ongoing for a long time.
With that in mind, the German police would have been in regular contact with the Portuguese police where Amaral still has contacts considering he worked there for x years. Consequently, it wouldn’t be unusual for him to have been privy to that info before it was announced.

Spanish Eyes

happyoutscan wrote: »

The Portugese police - from the beginning - were out to protect the integrity of their tourism value.

Nothing more.

The fact that they left their kids alone was a bonus for Amaral, giving him the ammo to advance this nonsense.

He's an absolute cretin of a human being.

Since you have no proof of that, I can also say that the British Police did not investigate this either, for similar reasons, well maybe protection of a certain family anyway. Bizarre whatever way you look at it.

But from what I know Amaral won his case against the McCanns anyway.

So much money spent on litigation. But there we are.

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Amaral is actually a stronger suspect than the McCanns.

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Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Since you have no proof of that, I can also say that the British Police did not investigate this either, for similar reasons, well maybe protection of a certain family anyway. Bizarre whatever way you look at it.

But from what I know Amaral won his case against the McCanns anyway.

So much money spent on litigation. But there we are.

He didn’t win his case. The McCanns won their case against him and then lost on appeal. The first case was in their favour.

limnam

happyoutscan wrote: »

The Portugese police - from the beginning - were out to protect the integrity of their tourism value.

Nothing more.

The fact that they left their kids alone was a bonus for Amaral, giving him the ammo to advance this nonsense.

He's an absolute cretin of a human being.

If they were not fed a pack of lies from the moment they arrived. If he was protecting anything, he wouldn't have been able to if they were told the truth from the off.

Then I guess they convinced ex British police to come on board and help with their plight to save their tourist industry

And it's the anti McCanns that are the conspiracy theorists.

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limnam wrote: »

When the news came out regarding the drunking slurr.

There was little else known. Bar he was a child rapist.

Creaming began.

So when you compare that to the hundreds of problems that's been brought up over the years. That's fck all. But it didn't stop the cheer leaders creaming themselves.

CB and Amaral are the strongest suspects in this case. Both convicted of a crime, lived in the same area, possibly have met each other in the past.

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

He didn’t win his case. The McCanns won their case against him and then lost on appeal. The first case was in their favour.

So they lost then.

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limnam wrote: »

If they were not fed a pack of lies from the moment they arrived. If he was protecting anything, he wouldn't have been able to if they were told the truth from the off.

Then I guess they convinced ex British police to come on board and help with their plight to save their tourist industry

And it's the anti McCanns that are the conspiracy theorists.

That’s a conspiracy theory within itself.

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limnam wrote: »

So they lost then.

It was a draw. One all

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

CB and Amaral are the strongest suspects in this case. Both convicted of a crime, lived in the same area, possibly have met each other in the past.

Hot of the press.
Amaral new suspect in McCann case.

I think you should leave the conspiracy theories to the "other side"

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

It was a draw. One all

Amaral is 750k up.

Spanish Eyes

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

He didn’t win his case. The McCanns won their case against him and then lost on appeal. The first case was in their favour.

He did win on appeal obviously.

Semantics and a smidgeon of desperation there. Honestly WTAF are you on about? Amaral won, they lost. Get over it.

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limnam wrote: »

Hot of the press.
Amaral new suspect in McCann case.

I think you should leave the conspiracy theories to the "other side"

He was convicted of perjury. It was around a case where a child went missing 2 years before Madeline.

That makes him a serious suspect in anyone’s eyes.

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Spanish Eyes wrote: »

He did win on appeal obviously.

Semantics and a smidgeon of desperation there. Honestly WTAF are you on about? Amaral won, they lost. Get over it.

He didn’t win because he didn’t take the case. The onus is on the applicant to prove their case

Amaral doesn’t need to prove his innocence, same way the McCanns don’t.

dark crystal

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Anyone who condemns the morals of the McCanns and then holds convicted criminal and liar Amaral up as some beacon of truth need to have a word with themselves :pac:

limnam

So

New line.

Where was this Amaral guy between 5.30pm and 10 pm on the night in question.

limnam

dark crystal wrote: »

Anyone who condemns the morals of the McCanns and then holds convicted criminal and liar Amaral up as some beacon of truth need to have a word with themselves :pac:

Did he leave a 3yr old alone to be raped and murdered?

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limnam wrote: »

So

New line.

Where was this Amaral guy between 5.30pm and 10 pm on the night in question.

Good question where was he?

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limnam wrote: »

Did he leave a 3yr old alone to be raped and murdered?

Is that what happened?

dark crystal

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

Did he leave a 3yr old alone to be raped and murdered?

Not that I'm aware of.

Did the McCanns leave a 3 year old alone with the intention that she be raped and murdered?

Spanish Eyes

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

He was convicted of perjury. It was around a case where a child went missing 2 years before Madeline.

That makes him a serious suspect in anyone’s eyes.

So are the parents, the nannies, the Tapas Group, the bloke who was convicted without charge, oh yes Murat who also got loadsa moolah from the Fund, the German abductor and so on.

Honestly what a stinking mess this is.

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

Good question where was he?

No idea

But I bet his phone pinged not to far from the tiny parish....

Spanish Eyes

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

He didn’t win because he didn’t take the case. The onus is on the applicant to prove their case

Amaral doesn’t need to prove his innocence, same way the McCanns don’t.

But the case was taken by Mcs against him. They lost, So what exactly is your point here?

limnam

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

But the case was taken by Mcs against him. They lost, So what exactly is your point here?

I think it's "draws" are very fcking costly.

Like 750k of public money costly.

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

Is that what happened?

According to zee german psychologist.

Most likely.

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limnam wrote: »

No idea

But I bet his phone pinged not to far from the tiny parish....

So we have a convicted liar (I know lies are an important indicator for you but this time it’s actual lies as opposed to someone getting the time wrong) who had access to the crime scene, no accounts for his whereabouts, was a formal suspect involving a previous case where a child went missing, who came up with a similar theory that the child was kept in a fridge and later disposed the body, then implicated the parents who were ultimately convicted based on a confession which they say was coerced and none of this is suspicious to you yet the McCanns are #1 suspect because they don’t know where their gym bag is?

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limnam wrote: »

According to zee german psychologist.

Most likely.

Which German psychologist?

Spanish Eyes

dark crystal wrote: »

Not that I'm aware of.

Did the McCanns leave a 3 year old alone with the intention that she be raped and murdered?

Are you mad? How do you know that might have happened. That is sick really.

Honestly for that to go through your mind is unbelievable. Not a good look no matter what.

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

So we have a convicted liar (I know lies are an important indicator for you but this time it’s actual lies as opposed to someone getting the time wrong) who had access to the crime scene, no accounts for his whereabouts, was a formal suspect involving a previous case where a child went missing, who came up with a similar theory that the child was kept in a fridge and later disposed the body, then implicated the parents who were ultimately convicted based on a confession which they say was coerced and none of this is suspicious to you yet the McCanns are #1 suspect because they don’t know where their gym bag is?

McCanns are not a suspect....

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Spanish Eyes wrote: »

But the case was taken by Mcs against him. They lost, So what exactly is your point here?

Point is that the only person who has actually been convicted of telling lies in a court of law is Amaral. So it’s actually 2-1 McCanns.

dark crystal

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Are you mad? How do you know that might have happened. That is sick really.

Honestly for that to go through your mind is unbelievable. Not a good look no matter what.

Before you start pearl clutching, go back and have a look at the post I replied to and what that poster wrote.

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limnam wrote: »

McCanns are not a suspect....

Neither is Amaral

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limnam wrote: »

McCanns are not a suspect....

Neither is Amaral

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

Neither is Amaral

So what we discussing?

limnam

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

Point is that the only person who has actually been convicted of telling lies in a court of law is Amaral. So it’s actually 2-1 McCanns.

McCanns bring someone to court.

Lose.

Pay the man 750k public money.

You think they're winning because of something that happened in an unrelated case?

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limnam wrote: »

So what we discussing?

Why you think Amaral is not suspect?

Spanish Eyes

dark crystal wrote: »

Before you start pearl clutching, go back and have a look at the post I replied to and what that poster wrote.

OK I know I quoted someone else and may have attributed it to you. Hands up.

What is pearl clutching anyway?

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limnam wrote: »

McCanns bring someone to court.

Lose.

Pay the man 750k public money.

You think they're winning because of something that happened in an unrelated case?

It raises awareness

retro:electro

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

Did he leave a 3yr old alone to be raped and murdered?

How low can you go.

Banana Republic.

happyoutscan wrote: »

The Portugese police - from the beginning - were out to protect the integrity of their tourism value.

Nothing more.

The fact that they left their kids alone was a bonus for Amaral, giving him the ammo to advance this nonsense.

He's an absolute cretin of a human being.

He’s been cleared of libel cause his book was all that was in the investigation and that’s the highest court in Portugal so I think you’ve been trumped there. There has to be truth in Amarals case somewhere.

limnam

Banana Republic. wrote: »

He’s been cleared of libel cause his book was all that was in the investigation and that’s the highest court in Portugal so I think you’ve been trumped there. There has to be truth in Amarals case somewhere.

Almost sounds like a Portuguese tourist conspiracy theory.


As the pro side do not do conspiracies. There must be a different reason.

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Banana Republic. wrote: »

He’s been cleared of libel cause his book was all that was in the investigation and that’s the highest court in Portugal so I think you’ve been trumped there. There has to be truth in Amarals case somewhere.

Amaral was convicted of perjury. The only person involved in this case who had been convicted of telling lies.

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limnam wrote: »

McCanns bring someone to court.

Lose.

Pay the man 750k public money.

You think they're winning because of something that happened in an unrelated case?

I think the similarities between the Joana Cipriano and Madeline McCann are striking and that Amaral was an investigator in both cases where they came up with the same theory for the disappearance and disposal, and that Amaral was convicted of perjury in relation to the Joana Cipriano investigation is very concerning.

callmehal

Accident happened, parents hid body

Again, defending the McCanns is more important than anything else it seems. Other cases are irrelevant, this case should be taken on its own merits. With the lies, the dogs and so on, there was enough to suspect the McCanns. They may have just been covering up for the neglect of their children but when everything was put together, you can see why they became suspects.

cnocbui

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

callmehal wrote: »

Again, defending the McCanns is more important than anything else it seems. Other cases are irrelevant, this case should be taken on its own merits. With the lies, the dogs and so on, there was enough to suspect the McCanns. They may have just been covering up for the neglect of their children but when everything was put together, you can see why they became suspects.

When everything is put together, you can see why they are no longer suspects and the clear and obvious reasons why that is the case, and has been for a decade.

Banana Republic.

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

Point is that the only person who has actually been convicted of telling lies in a court of law is Amaral. So it’s actually 2-1 McCanns.

Yea it’s not a football match lads, if you want to match lies then Amaral is the only convicted liar but doesn’t mean The Mc Canns haven’t lied time after time or everything they’ve said is the 100% truth. Either way Madeline is the biggest loser in this all so keeping score ain’t going to solve it. Listen to the Australian podcasts and you’ll see enough lies to wonder about certain theories.

Banana Republic.

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

I think the similarities between the Joana Cipriano and Madeline McCann are striking and that Amaral was an investigator in both cases where they came up with the same theory for the disappearance and disposal, and that Amaral was convicted of perjury in relation to the Joana Cipriano investigation is very concerning.

Do you think Amaral is a serial abductor and a serial killer?