2018-19 FA CUP

sReq | uTeK

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

I would love a Champions League place for the FA Cup winner. It would completely revitalise the competition.

Never going to happen though. Shame.

The death knell of the FA Cup was the launch of Champions League group stages in 1994/1995.

Great idea. Hope 3 plus and FA Cup spot

ERG89

Jimbob1977 wrote:

The death knell of the FA Cup was the launch of Champions League group stages in 1994/1995.

How?
The group stages of the CL end in mid December & the FA Cup 3rd round starts in early January.

Drumpot

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

I would love a Champions League place for the FA Cup winner. It would completely revitalise the competition.

Never going to happen though. Shame.

The death knell of the FA Cup was the launch of Champions League group stages in 1994/1995.

I would love a CL spot aswell to raise the cup. I think it was more when they added CL spots for 2nd place etc that started to effect the FA Cup!

Let’s not forget the English FA themselves undermining the FA cup in 2000 by forcing the defending champions at the time, to pull out of it so they could boost their World Cup bid....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sport/football/fa_carling_premiership/381662.stm#sa-link_location=TEMP&intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2F20660585&intlink_ts=1548606736144-sa

blueser

Brainless stuff from Walker-Peters there. WTF was he thinking of?

Jimbob1977

ERG89 wrote: »

How?
The group stages of the CL end in mid December & the FA Cup 3rd round starts in early January.

In 1993/1994, the Champions League/European Cup contained just the national champion and it was knockout. Galatasaray eliminated Manchester United in September 1993. The FA Cup was unaffected.

Since 1998, there have been multiple teams allowed from the same country. The League and Champions League are intense from August to early December.

The Champions League knockout stages begin again in February. Around the time of the FA Cup 5th round. Clubs are focusing their strongest XI on the League and Champions League.

With four slots available in England, nobody is bothered with the FA Cup anymore. It's a real shame.

Surely everyone has noticed the FA Cup squads are miles weaker than the mid 1990s? It could be revitalised if the 4th League spot was given to the FA Cup instead.

Harry Palmr

Spurs being very Spursy today

ArmaniJeanss

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Surely everyone has noticed the FA Cup squads are miles weaker than the mid 1990s? It could be revitalised if the 4th League spot was given to the FA Cup instead.

Can't be done as it's a UEFA rule that CL spots can only be awarded based on league position.
I doubt UEFA will see any need to change that just to satisfy some nostalgia the English have for the FA Cup.

Richard Hillman

Could have been worse for Spurs. At least nobody got injured.

The Talking Bread

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Great idea. Hope 3 plus and FA Cup spot

It is an idea that has been floating about for years. So hardly original. Besides it will inevitably only be one of the top 6 clubs that will benefit. I honestly can't see it doing anything significant to improve the cup.

Agent Coulson

It's gone to crap for Poch since Ole took over at Man U.

Drumpot

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Can't be done as it's a UEFA rule that CL spots can only be awarded based on league position.
I doubt UEFA will see any need to change that just to satisfy some nostalgia the English have for the FA Cup.

I’d say it’s more down to what the big clubs want as opposed to Uefa. Remember , the reason there is more spots for the CL is to appease the big euro clubs...

Mr.Nice Guy

Peno to Sheffield Wednesday. Looks harsh. Maybe VAR will intervene.

It has intervened. Decision overturned.

Collie D

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Peno to Sheffield Wednesday. Looks harsh. Maybe VAR will intervene.

It did. Drop ball

HalloweenJack

Ampadu got to the ball and the Wednesday player's kicked him as he followed through. Good to see they got it right.

Islander13

Looks like a league and FA cup double for city

Mr.Nice Guy

Peno to Chelsea now!

No doubt about that one.

And Willian sends Westwood the wrong way. 1-0 Chelsea.

BorneTobyWilde

How come Sheffield did not even get the corner though? He gave a drop ball, surely when chelsea player did clear it and not give away a penalty the corner should have been giving.

dfx-

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Sheffield did not even get the corner though? He gave a drop ball, surely when chelsea player did clear it and not give away a penalty the corner should have been giving.

restarting the game after VAR was always going to be a problem, it seems they haven't sorted it.

It has clearly had an impact on the game and the Wednesday players too.

It's farcical that it's only at a selection of games in the same competition.

Mr.Nice Guy

Hudson-Odoi scores to make it 2-0. Westwood could have done better with that.

And Willian puts it to bed with a class finish. 3-0.

citytillidie

Drumpot wrote: »

I’d say it’s more down to what the big clubs want as opposed to Uefa. Remember , the reason there is more spots for the CL is to appease the big euro clubs...

Sure they removed the runners up getting the Europa League spot and gave it to the league. UEFA want the top teams in

acquiescefc

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Sheffield did not even get the corner though? He gave a drop ball, surely when chelsea player did clear it and not give away a penalty the corner should have been giving.

You do know theres three teams in Sheffield.

lawred2

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Sheffield did not even get the corner though? He gave a drop ball, surely when chelsea player did clear it and not give away a penalty the corner should have been giving.

well it should have been a free out from what I saw...

Ragnar Lothbrok

acquiescefc wrote: »

You do know theres three teams in Sheffield.

Three? Or are you including Rotherham?

citytillidie

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

Three? Or are you including Rotherham?

I think he is talking about Sheffield FC the oldest football club in the world who play in like the 2nd to last tier in the English football pyramid. So if he is to count them he should also count Hallam FC as they are the 2nd oldest team in football so that would make four and not three teams in Sheffield

Ragnar Lothbrok

citytillidie wrote: »

I think he is talking about Sheffield FC the oldest football club in the world who play in like the 2nd to last tier in the English football pyramid. So if he is to count them he should also count Hallam FC as they are the 2nd oldest team in football so that would make four and not three teams in Sheffield

I thought he'd be referring to Sheffield FC. There are probably dozens and dozens of teams in Sheffield if he's counting Sheffield FC.

acquiescefc

So Manchester or London will win the FA Cup then.

greendom

acquiescefc wrote: »

So Manchester or London will win the FA Cup then.

Only 1 North London team left - come on you (black and amber) Bees !!

Tom Mann Centuria

greendom wrote: »

Only 1 North London team left - come on you (black and amber) Bees !!

Good luck. I'm sure you're buzzing (sorry).

Collie D

Draw at 7pm on BBC1.

Hoping for United v Barnet/Brentford and obviously avoid City.

EDIT: It’s actually 7.20. Apologies to anyone who has just watched ten minutes of The One Show.

major bill

Hopefully Millwall v Chelsea so we can see the first FA Cup tie to kick off at 7am on a Tuesday Morning.

Mr.Nice Guy

Chelsea vs Man City would be lovely.

Mr.Nice Guy

Chelsea vs Man Utd.

FFS.

blueser

Drumpot

3.33% chance of getting Chelsea away!!! F*ck

eigrod

Man Utd deserve to win it if they get through that.

Collie D

eigrod wrote: »

Man Utd deserve to win it if they get through that.

Wedged in between home games against PSG and Liverpool. Contract for Ole if he wins those three.

No replays from this round onwards either.

blueser

London's finest must be relieved that West Ham fcuked up at the weekend. At home to Millwall would have left Stratford looking like Aleppo!

Jimbob1977

The draw

1 Bristol City v Shrewsbury Town or Wolverhampton Wanderers
2 AFC Wimbledon v Millwall
3 Doncaster Rovers v Crystal Palace
4 Middlesbrough or Newport County v Manchester City
5 Chelsea v Manchester United
6 Swansea City v Barnet or Brentford
7 Portsmouth or Queens Park Rangers v Watford
8 Brighton & Hove Albion or West Bromwich Albion v Derby County

There can be no Manchester league derby on 16th March if either club win in the 5th round. 6th round pencilled in.

GavRedKing

blueser wrote: »

London's finest must be relieved that West Ham fcuked up at the weekend. At home to Millwall would have left Stratford looking like Aleppo!

I'd say a few hot and cold balls might have influenced Millwall missing Chelsea or West Ham.

Would have been very "interesting" to see what would have happened if it was Millwall v Chelsea at the Den and how the Met would approach it.

Tom Mann Centuria

Great cup tie in the honey derby.

2 all with just under half an hour left.

citytillidie

4th Round Results
Bristol City 2 V 1 Bolton Wanderers
Arsenal 1 V 3 Manchester United
Accrington Stanley 0 V 1 Derby County
Brighton & Hove Albion 0 V 0 West Bromwich Albion
Doncaster Rovers 2 V 1 Oldham Athletic
Manchester City 5 V 0 Burnley
Middlesbrough 1 V 1 Newport County
Newcastle United 0 V 2 Watford
Portsmouth 1 V 1 Queens Park Rangers
Shrewsbury Town 2 V 2 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Swansea City 4 V 1 Gillingham
Millwall 3 V 2 Everton
AFC Wimbledon 4 V 2 West Ham United
Crystal Palace 2 V 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 3 V 0 Sheffield Wednesday
Barnet 3 V 3 Brentford

Replays
Tuesday 5th February
Brentford V Barnet
Newport County V Middlesbrough
Queens Park Rangers V Portsmouth
Wolverhampton Wanderers V Shrewsbury Town
West Bromwich Albion V Brighton & Hove Albion

Collie D

Another bad round for the higher ranked teams. The following “underdogs” (based on league position) all won.

Manchester United
Millwall
AFC Wimbledon
Crystal Palace

And the following all earned replays

West Bromwich Albion
Newport County
Portsmouth
Shrewsbury Town
Barnet

Only 7 of the 16 higher ranked teams went straight through to fifth round.

Loafing Oaf

Collie D wrote: »

Another bad round for the higher ranked teams. The following “underdogs” (based on league position) all won.

Manchester United
Millwall
AFC Wimbledon
Crystal Palace

And the following all earned replays

West Bromwich Albion
Newport County
Portsmouth
Shrewsbury Town
Barnet

Only 7 of the 16 higher ranked teams went straight through to fifth round.

I'd say the old order could have reasserted itself by the qfs though. Could easily see six prem teams and two championship ones in the last eight.

citytillidie

Replays
Tuesday 5th February 19:45 Kick-Offs
Brentford V Barnet
Newport County V Middlesbrough - Live on BT Sport 2
Queens Park Rangers V Portsmouth
Wolverhampton Wanderers V Shrewsbury Town

Wednesday 6th February
West Bromwich Albion V Brighton & Hove Albion 20:05 Kick-Off Live on BBC One

5th Round
Friday 15th February 19:45 Kick-Off
Portsmouth/Queens Park Rangers V Watford - Live on BT Sport 2

Saturday 16th February
Brighton & Hove Albion/West Bromwich Albion V Derby County - 12:30 Kick-Off Live on BT Sport 2
AFC Wimbledon V Millwall
Swansea City V Barnet or Brentford
Middlesbrough/Newport County V Manchester City - 17:30 Kick-Off Live on BT Sport 2

Sunday 17th February
Bristol City V Shrewsbury Town/Wolverhampton Wanderers 13:00 Kick-Off Live on BT Sport 2
Doncaster Rovers V Crystal Palace 16:00 Kick-Off Live on BBC One

Monday 18th February 19:30 Kick-Off
Chelsea V Manchester United - Live on BBC One

Mr.Nice Guy

Was hoping to see Randolph in goal for Middlesbrough tonight away to Newport but it seems he's not in the squad. Padraig Amond and Mark O'Brien are in the Newport XI.

Loafing Oaf

this pitch makes Pairc Ui Chaoimh look like a carpet:eek:

citytillidie

Hazard of playing rugby on a football pitch

blueser

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

this pitch makes Pairc Ui Chaoimh look like a carpet:eek:

Looking at that mudheap, I'd say Pep is praying for a 'Boro win!

Mr.Nice Guy

1-0 Newport!

Keeper should do better with that.

Mr.Nice Guy

Amond scores!

2-0 Newport. Super finish.