Cities around the world that are reducing car access

Sam Russell

A bus-gate on Merrion Row would be good - with no parking at all (or maybe 7am to midnight) and deliveries and taxies outside 7am to 7pm.

cgcsb

If only DCC could convert all of drury st to bicycle parking . There needs to be some scheme to get the multi storeys demolished. They were built thanks to tax incentives so perhaps a tax incentive could them knocked down or reused in some alternative way.

namloc1980

Why are Councillors in Galway complaining about all the cars in Salthill? This is exactly what they want, like this FG Councillor from a few weeks ago posting a picture of a load of cars as something positive:

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CatInABox

cgcsb wrote: »

If only DCC could convert all of drury st to bicycle parking . There needs to be some scheme to get the multi storeys demolished. They were built thanks to tax incentives so perhaps a tax incentive could them knocked down or reused in some alternative way.

Instead, what we've got is Frank McDonald appealing planning permission to tear down the Trinity Street car park, because the nine storey replacement is too tall.

Jesus wept.

Thelonious Monk

I had to cycle in and out of office in Dublin centre today but the carry on with cars is just ridiculous. There are vans or cars facing the wrong way parked in nearly all the bike lanes without bollards, cars and vans parked fully up on the footpath all over the place, I don't remember it being this bad before but maybe I just wasn't paying attention. It's simply down to zero enforcement, you can basically do what you like in the city centre in a car especially if you leave your hazards on.
It does mean you have to take the full lane a lot of the time much to the anger of motorists behind you. Also counted 5 red light breaks, one was a van speeding through a pedestrian crossing just as I was about to cross. It's chaotic alright.

Thelonious Monk

Also Salthill got what they deserved yesterday with the car meet carry on. I hope they continue to do it every Sunday. Maybe we should organise one for Sandymount?

Sam Russell

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I had to cycle in and out of office in Dublin centre today but the carry on with cars is just ridiculous. There are vans or cars facing the wrong way parked in nearly all the bike lanes without bollards, cars and vans parked fully up on the footpath all over the place, I don't remember it being this bad before but maybe I just wasn't paying attention. It's simply down to zero enforcement, you can basically do what you like in the city centre in a car especially if you leave your hazards on.
It does mean you have to take the full lane a lot of the time much to the anger of motorists behind you. Also counted 5 red light breaks, one was a van speeding through a pedestrian crossing just as I was about to cross. It's chaotic alright.

Back to normal so.

A while ago, I saw a Garda van with a Garda sitting in it parked on a double yellow line and on the pavement with a continuous line - did not bother him one bit.

MJohnston

Similar to something posted on Twitter a couple of weeks ago:

https://twitter.com/yimbyie/status/1392801926421565442

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MJohnston wrote: »

Similar to something posted on Twitter a couple of weeks ago:

https://twitter.com/yimbyie/status/1392801926421565442

I'm gonna post this screenshot straight to any knuckledragger complaining about pedestrianisations excluding or inconveniencing the disabled

Thelonious Monk

https://twitter.com/lauren_tuite/status/1396903108727517193

Looks pretty good tbf, can't wait to be able to have a drink there in a couple of weeks

magicbastarder

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1397515449068294147

Pete_Cavan

magicbastarder wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1397515449068294147

A ban specifically on SUVs! It's unenforceable* and would achieve nothing as arseholes would just start driving different vehicles. Sounds like a very basic attempt by the car lobby at deflecting attention on a small element of the overall problem so that the crux of the problem gets overlooked, and it is obviously working.

*how do you define an SUV? Who is going to enforce this ban? Does a Duster count given it is smaller than many cars (personally I'd ban Dusters from everywhere but that is beside the point)?

con___manx1

Car sharing for work purposes should be encouraged.
Its not ideal for everyone. I enjoy having the car to myself but it's better for your pocket and the environment regardless. I have a hundred k round trip to work everyday. It saves me at least €1000 a year with 1 person sharing.
It also keeps the mileage down on your car and wear on your tyres.

cgcsb

The SUV thing sounds like a brainfart. A ban on all diesel cars using anpnr cameras at the canal cordon would be useful. Also ban petrol cars over a certain age and then gradually make it a ban on all non electric cars while pedestrianising the city centre as much as possible. Then slap a congestion charge on the electric cars and remove the on street parking.

cgcsb

con___manx1 wrote: »

Car sharing for work purposes should be encouraged.
Its not ideal for everyone. I enjoy having the car to myself but it's better for your pocket and the environment regardless. I have a hundred k round trip to work everyday. It saves me at least €1000 a year with 1 person sharing.
It also keeps the mileage down on your car and wear on your tyres.

What an odd post. We're way past that. Almost all commutes are under 15km in Dublin

Heartbreak Hank

Very interesting series of presentations on cycling infrastructure design by NTA hosted by Engineers Ireland.

First one is currently underway - might be on YouTube later.

Link

Podge_irl

https://twitter.com/DubCityCouncil/status/1397934361689968640?s=20

How could anyone possibly prefer the before picture here!?

cgcsb

Podge_irl wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DubCityCouncil/status/1397934361689968640?s=20

How could anyone possibly prefer the before picture here!?

Mannix Flynn

namloc1980

Podge_irl wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DubCityCouncil/status/1397934361689968640?s=20

How could anyone possibly prefer the before picture here!?

There's always a few who'd prefer the before picture and think that parked vehicles mean that a place is "hopping" or indicates it is "thriving". And also someone who'll say "but what about <insert unlikely and nonsense example>, how will they manage?".

donvito99

namloc1980 wrote: »

And also someone who'll say "but what about <insert unlikely and nonsense example>, how will they manage?".

How will the blind find parking when they need to buy new reading glasses in Specsavers? Something Owen Keegan something, etc.

Thelonious Monk

There are people bitching and moaning about the above on Twitter alright, about delivery drivers etc. As if they care about deliveries and as if Grafton St never got anything delivered.

Heartbreak Hank

Heartbreak Hank wrote: »

Very interesting series of presentations on cycling infrastructure design by NTA hosted by Engineers Ireland.

First one is currently underway - might be on YouTube later.

Link

Invites for the rest of the events below:

• 3rd June: Active Travel Series - Pop-Up Infrastructure - Free Online Webinar
• 10th June: Active Travel Series - Effective Communication Approaches for Sustainable Travel Schemes - Free Online Webinar
• 17th June: Active Travel Series - Scheme Development Through Options Assessment Process - Free Online Webinar
• 24th June: Active Travel Series - BusConnects - Designing for Sustainable Modes - Free Online Webinar
• 1st July: Active Travel Series - Statutory Processes for Active Travel Schemes - Free Online Webinar

Thelonious Monk

pedestrianisation going well

https://twitter.com/adamos29/status/1399079866545410048

MJohnston

Gardai being their usual moronic, reactionary self. No doubt their boss got a bollocking from the FFGers after the scenes the other night.

cgcsb

It's just so Irish. Its slightly more effort to put in bins, toilets and monitor the situation so we'll just close the area off and make a worse problem elsewhere. That'll solve it

namloc1980

This is normal:

Dublin streets could be closed off after enormous crowds gather over weekend

A number of Garda sources said areas could be fenced off in Dublin city centre to prevent crowds gathering in a similar fashion again. They added that other controls, such as those seen around Temple Bar on St Patrick’s Day, could be implemented.

This would involve a cordon being placed around areas and access points being manned by gardaí. While access would be open to anyone, places could be temporarily closed or people moved on should they become too congested.

Pete_Cavan

I think it is right that steps be taken to avoid open air can-drinking fests. That is of little/no benefit to the businesses in these areas and the mess it generates is unacceptable. Part of the problem is temporary and caused by pent up demand to socialise and the novelty of particular areas having been pedestrianised, both of which will wear off.

Another part of the problem is that there is huge demand to socialise outdoor in a car-free environment in the city centre but the demand far exceeds the space available. The solution here is to provide much more such areas to spread that demand. Imagine having a wide choice of pedestrian areas to go, rather than everyone heading to the same couple of places.

Thelonious Monk

I'm sick of people being seen as unwanted unless they are spending money or a benefit to businesses. How did we allow this to become a common view of people? Can people not just be outside without spending money?

Pete_Cavan

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm sick of people being seen as unwanted unless they are spending money or a benefit to businesses. How did we allow this to become a common view of people? Can people not just be outside without spending money?

It's not about spending money. Buying cans/bottles also involves spending money but many leave the rubbish behind them for others to clean up. At least when eating/drinking from a particular premises, they take on some of the clean up and also have some responsibility for not letting things get out of hand. If the Gardai have to deal with disorder and get lots of complaints about litter etc, they generally take this kind of unwanted response.

Thelonious Monk

Yeah the littering is inexcusable, I don't know what can be done to change the mindset of Irish people to clean up after themselves but all the council is doing for the outdoor summer is allowing bars and restaurants to have outdoor areas without having to pay any charges. The rep from DCC on Claire Byrne earlier said that the working definition of "outdoor summer" means facilitating businesses.