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Sopranos Mafia - Family Redefined - GAME THREAD

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    #452
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Good morning all.

    Apologies for the lack of activity but this game really couldn’t have fallen on busier days for me. I’ll be on her for a few hours this afternoon if I can.


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    #453
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    I didn't elaborate as I was worried about dying and the laptop took forever to boot up. I was just throwing stuff out there for discussion if I ended up sleeping with the fishes. I'm trying to see all the angles which never actually happens but want to keep people talking. I think having some kind of strategy for the ITAs might be a good idea but I don't have a good idea as to what that strategy might be yet

    What made you think you were dying?


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    #454
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Thank-you. Now, the reason I asked, is this: 21 players signed up. We have 24 Anon Accounts. Two of those extra anon accounts can be explained by the two double accounts. What's the story with the third? Mods have said that there's no secret sign-up, or secret double account. They also said to read Rule 1 when asking about anon accounts. I have. And I'm still confused. So, thoughts people?

    Just on this, maybe they added an anon account for a sub so that they'd not be tied to previous posting history?


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    #455
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Wow awful start for the wolves. Happy days for the rest of us though.


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    #456
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Ewan WW wrote: »
    What made you think you were dying?

    Nothing in particular. I didn't think I'd be defo dead or anything but the wolves know I'm not one of them so I'm a candidate for the munch. Given that there's 3 known villagers but 2 bodyguards I suspected wolves would go outside of the knowns at this early stage to increase their odds of a kill. They didn't obvs (hahahaha) but it was a just in case post.


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    #457
    Vernon WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Vernon WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    Morning all. On the wit pro front the OP says it happens at 10am so nobody would be in yet right?
    Also, although OP says FBI members shots wont be processed during ITA is it possible that they could use it for cover? Just thinking.

    Well the only possible FBI kills are Holly and Mary if they were correctly able to guess that Holly was shooting Paulie and Mary was shooting Melfi.

    But it seems to imply that their vig shot is only to shoot outed players.

    So in that case, I dont think there were any counted FBI shots so far and if they do shoot anyone, they can only shoot people who out themselves
    The FBI sniper also has 2 shots they can use at any time in an attempt to kill a roled player. Should they be successful in guessing the Correct Role and Boards Anon Name, the player will be killed, and the FBI sniper will retain his shot. This is an anti-role claim mechanic.


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    #458
    WerewolfGM
    Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    Gertrude WW wrote: »
    Would anyone be able to post the final vote count from Changeofplans Sunday night ? I couldn't access on Sunday and I still cant access for some reason


    Lynch Day 0

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    | Lynch Candidate| Votes |
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    | No Lynch | "Desmond WW, Orla WW, Angus WW, Derry WW, Holly WW, |
    | | Gabriel WW, Clodagh WW, Jake WW, Oisin WW, Fiona WW,|
    | | Henry WW, Liam WW, Wendy WW, Ewan WW" |
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    | Barbara WW | Barbara WW |
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    | Brendan WW | Brendan WW |
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    | Frank WW | Frank WW |
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    | Gertrude WW | Gertrude WW |
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    | Katie WW | Katie WW |
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    | Mary WW | Mary WW |
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    | Nigel WW | Nigel WW |
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    | Riona WW | Riona WW |
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    | Vernon WW | Vernon WW |
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    | Winifred WW | Winifred WW |
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    #459
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Vernon WW wrote: »
    But it seems to imply that their vig shot is only to shoot outed players.

    Ok...I didn't read it that way. Given the OP says that they have to correctly guess the role and anon name, I'm confused - which is nothing new for me :pac:


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    #460
    Gertrude WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    Nice observation Vernon. I was starting to suspect Holly, Gabriel and Mary myself and I didn't want to


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    #461
    Gertrude WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    Thanks WerewolfGM

    I'm glad there was no lynch n0 lol for all the people like me who couldn't get on Sunday :D


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    #462
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Not sure how useful Night0 votes are. Confusion about where the game was etc. Plus it seems everyone who did vote, voted No Lynch.


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    #463
    Vernon WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Vernon WW


    I saw Derry list himself as someone who thought they would die, but I was sure you were getting shot last night Gertrude. You seem to really be on point with the mechanics and did a bit of Captaining during the ITA's. Plus you have one of the highest post counts


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    #464
    Gertrude WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    Derry WW wrote: »
    Not sure how useful Night0 votes are. Confusion about where the game was etc. Plus it seems everyone who did vote, voted No Lynch.

    it has no use at all.

    Like I said, I only wanted to know what they were because I couldn't access COP on my account and I was curious what way the votes fell


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    #465
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Henry WW wrote: »
    That was a interesting read back. Great to see we have a village core forming so early on and that we have defeated two of the bad team members.

    I had a quick read of the thread yesterday before lynch and put my lynch vote in based on the discussion currently going on and their reaction to it.

    Hey Henry, first post in Boards, third overall. Why shouldn't we shoot you in the ITA?


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    #466
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    I would also be happy to shoot Desmond. Still no-show on Boards. Though I also wonder if a wolf would be that obviously absent.


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    #467
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Vernon WW wrote: »
    Well the only possible FBI kills are Holly and Mary if they were correctly able to guess that Holly was shooting Paulie and Mary was shooting Melfi.

    But it seems to imply that their vig shot is only to shoot outed players.

    So in that case, I dont think there were any counted FBI shots so far and if they do shoot anyone, they can only shoot people who out themselves

    The mods quoted the kill request during the ITAs for all three deaths and I can only see them doing that for legit ITA kills, rather than trying to provide cover for FBI kills.


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    #468
    Gertrude WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    I would also be happy to shoot Desmond. Still no-show on Boards. Though I also wonder if a wolf would be that obviously absent.

    A defeated wolf might

    They were decimated yesterday


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    #469
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't get this.

    Right, there was a village misunderstanding that made people worry Frank and Fiona were a team.

    Fiona surely knew that was a mistake, and she wasn't working with Frank.


    So....voted Frank.

    Why? Was there another reason to vote Frank this evening?

    Just on this, Fiona knowing that was a mistake (Fiona and Frank being an evil that is) would mean that she wasn't on a team with Frank. How would that mean Fiona knew Frank was good?


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    #470
    Henry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭Henry WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Hey Henry, first post in Boards, third overall. Why shouldn't we shoot you in the ITA?

    I can’t make up for my abscence so far and can’t stop ye shooting me. I will be more available for today and hope to be able to prove myself to the village


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    #471
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Liam WW wrote: »
    Yep the no Lynch vote was something I did accidentally at 1349 yesterday, new to the game and thought voting was 9 to 10 and that anything before wasn't counted... Complacency on my part and have re-read the rules (about 5 times no lol).. so hopefully no more rookie mistakes

    This does seem a believable mistake to make. Seems more likely to me that it was a mistake than a wolf planned this.


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    #472
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Nigel WW wrote: »
    The mods quoted the kill request during the ITAs for all three deaths and I can only see them doing that for legit ITA kills, rather than trying to provide cover for FBI kills.

    In fairness, we probably won't know for sure until we see a genuine FBI kill.


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    #473
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Honestly, I nearly voted no lynch as well, as I had mentioned considering before hand.

    I switched to Nigel to see what reaction I'd get; mainly cause he accused me and then super rapidly backpeddled when I called him out on it. Voted him to keep shaking that bush. Especially since I knew Frank or Fiona were likely screwed. That he's not mentioned it has me curious.

    I've got a mad busy day today, including a long stretch where I physically wont have internet access of any kind.

    I still don't get why Fiona voted Frank given the main accusations against Frank were a story that Fiona would have known was not true. And the "Ha, see, I'm 100% not a wolf!" post after Frank was revealed as an NRV comes off as way to pushy tbh. Especially when it proves nothing of the sort.

    Liam's "confusion" about his vote has me suspicious of him too. Hoping that he wouldn't be called out on it by a mod? Maybe.

    With limited net today, I'd have those three as the start of my #FFA2. Fiona, Liam & Nigel.

    Hey Barbara, I said from the start there wasn't much there. I notice that you still haven't really address the content of my post though. You dismissed it as being just because you posted. I admitted it wasn't a well thought out accusation but the accusation remains unaddressed.


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    #474
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Henry WW wrote: »
    I can’t make up for my abscence so far and can’t stop ye shooting me. I will be more available for today and hope to be able to prove myself to the village

    How do you plan on proving yourself Henry?


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    #475
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    In fairness, we probably won't know for sure until we see a genuine FBI kill.

    You do have a point there and it is possible but FBI can't have ITAs processed, so that means that FBI sniper kills could only really be between 1-2 and ordered in the same manner as ITAs and also confirmed in the same manner by the mods. If they were to be confirmed outside 1-2 (the OP says they can be used any time), then we'd know who the FBI sniper is because no-one else can shoot outside 1-2 I believe.

    Given that the OP says the sniper can kill at any time I'd have to imagine the mechanic is different. Otherwise the sniper has to shoot between 1-2 or will be discovered straight away.


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    #476
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Nigel WW wrote: »
    Hey Barbara, I said from the start there wasn't much there. I notice that you still haven't really address the content of my post though. You dismissed it as being just because you posted. I admitted it wasn't a well thought out accusation but the accusation remains unaddressed.

    The accusation was that I posted. You even admitted that you weren't sure if that was a good or a bad thing. There's not much of an accusation to address beyond that, is there?

    Anyway, was just curious to see what your reaction to my voting for you would be, and can't say I've got a read from it either way. One filed away for the future :)


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    #477
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Given we got a wolf via shots today, is there a viable discussion to be had for another no lynch, if we can't come to an agreement?
    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Fair enough. Have to admit I'm seeing a bit of circumstancal stuff and very little solid right now.
    Barbara WW wrote: »
    It's very quite, considering we aren't far off lynch time...
    Barbara WW wrote: »
    ThInk I've counted two so far.

    I just legit don't have three names I could put on one myself right now.

    Your four posts before my post Barbara. You're right that it was pretty quiet, because there hadn't been many posts between seven and around half eight when I posted. But you mentioned going for a no lynch and said you didn't have three names to put on an FFA. Did you have anyone that might go on one because you didn't seem to mention anyone specific in the hours prior to my post?


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    #478
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    The accusation was that I posted. You even admitted that you weren't sure if that was a good or a bad thing. There's not much of an accusation to address beyond that, is there?

    Anyway, was just curious to see what your reaction to my voting for you would be, and can't say I've got a read from it either way. One filed away for the future :)

    The accusation was that you posted saying it was awfully quiet, but didn't really offer your thoughts on anyone at that stage. Just said it was quiet. The accusation wasn't that you had simply posted but what you had posted.


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    #479
    Vernon WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Vernon WW


    Ewan WW wrote: »
    How do you plan on proving yourself Henry?

    Give his current posting rate, he'll be revealing that from the dead room


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    #480
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    So, wolves put in a kill order against one of their own, presumably, which invalidated it.

    It was also probably a last minute change, otherwise the wolf being targeted would likely have tried to dissuade them of that intention. Either that, or it was a target to a low poster who hasn't been around here much, or in the back-room to right them of their munch target.

    So, because of the Chris and Sal situation, they've been probably keeping their anon accounts quiet up until now, but now they know at least who one of them is.

    On top of that, unless we have a villager claiming to have been in WP, one of them probably is now part of team FBI, and has a chance of dying tonight after lynch.

    Wonder why the FBI didn't get a kill though if the mafia's one was invalid?


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    #481
    Derry WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    So, wolves put in a kill order against one of their own, presumably, which invalidated it.

    It was also probably a last minute change, otherwise the wolf being targeted would likely have tried to dissuade them of that intention. Either that, or it was a target to a low poster who hasn't been around here much, or in the back-room to right them of their munch target.

    So, because of the Chris and Sal situation, they've been probably keeping their anon accounts quiet up until now, but now they know at least who one of them is.

    On top of that, unless we have a villager claiming to have been in WP, one of them probably is now part of team FBI, and has a chance of dying tonight after lynch.

    Wonder why the FBI didn't get a kill though if the mafia's one was invalid?

    That's why I assumed they went for a protected player. A wolf on wolf attack isn't valid.


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