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Kids gaming PC

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  • 31-10-2018 10:48am
    #1
    Blackgator
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭


    Sister is getting a pc for her son for Xmas. He's 8. Plays mostly Minecraft and Fortnite. He will also be doing homework and learning on it.

    I don't know if I should go for an APU or a budget CPU & GPU (i3 and 1050 or a 2400G).


    1. What is your budget?
    €450

    2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?
    Gaming PC

    3. Do you need a copy of Windows?
    No

    4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
    No

    5. Do you need a monitor?
    No

    5a. If yes, what size do you need.
    n/a

    5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future?
    1080, not upgrading anytime soon .

    6. Do you need any of these peripherals?
    No

    7. Are you willing to try overclocking?
    Yes

    8. How can you pay?
    Debit card/Visa/Cheque/IBAN

    9. When are you purchasing?
    ASAP

    10. If you need help building it, where are you based?
    Donegal, but should be okay.


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    #2
    Blackgator
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭Blackgator


    So far I have this build.
    What you guys think?

    ∆CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Aria PC)∆
    ∆Motherboard: MSI - A320M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£42.48 @ Ebuyer) ∆
    ∆Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£116.33 @ Ebuyer)∆
    ∆Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.29 @ Aria PC) ∆
    ∆Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£20.39 @ Aria PC)∆
    ∆Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.97 @ Amazon UK) ∆
    Total: £384.45


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    TerrorFirmer
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    16GB memory is way overkill for a low budget machine.

    Get a Ryzen 1400 and GTX1050 combo with 8GB ram, the 2400G is grand for those games but way off a 1050 peformance wise.


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    Blackgator
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭Blackgator


    Ok, does this look better?
    Would have an extra £50 or so to spend so what could I change? CPU upgrade, 1050ti, or SSD?

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£110.98 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£41.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£47.31 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.29 @ Aria PC)
    Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB StormX Video Card (£104.32 @ Box Limited)
    Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£20.39 @ Aria PC)
    Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.97 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £398.24


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    TerrorFirmer
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    I'd take a better GPU for sure. You're not buying from all those seperate places I assume, Ebuyer don't deliver here at all and you'd be paying a lot on seperate postage charges!

    Also unless I'm mistaken some of those prices are wrong - 8GB DDR4 2400mhz for example, I don't see that on Amazon for anything close to that price.

    GTX1050Ti is a good upgrade, but some places now have the RX570 for £160, much better, and it comes with 3 new release games worth more than half that.


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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    I'd take a better GPU for sure. You're not buying from all those seperate places I assume, Ebuyer don't deliver here at all and you'd be paying a lot on seperate postage charges!

    Also unless I'm mistaken some of those prices are wrong - 8GB DDR4 2400mhz for example, I don't see that on Amazon for anything close to that price.

    GTX1050Ti is a good upgrade, but some places now have the RX570 for £160, much better, and it comes with 3 new release games worth more than half that.

    According to the Amazon listing, The Tech Warehouse & Kikatek are selling 1x8Gb DDR4-2400 for £46.53.

    You're right of course about the eBuyer prices.
    But I don't see any way to fit an RX570 into this budget!

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£58.76 @ CCL Computers)
    Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£46.53)
    Storage: Mushkin - Source 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£34.32 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB StormX Video Card (£109.98 @ CCL Computers)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.28 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX - XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.93 @ CCL Computers)
    Total: £394.77
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 13:08 GMT+0000


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    Skerries
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    rx570 for €159
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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Skerries wrote: »
    rx570 for €159

    Do Mindfactory deliver outside Germany yet?

    I know there's an EU directive forcing them to come December, but I haven't looked into it further.


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    #9
    Skerries
    Registered Users Posts: 12,416 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    they do but looks like they have raised their delivery significantly from the last time I ordered
    shame as I was looking at a Vega 64

    https://www.mindfactory.de/info_center.php/icID/13
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    #10
    Blackgator
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭Blackgator


    Ok, it's D-day for ording this pc or parts.

    Last question.

    Would this prebuilt be a better option?

    MSI Nightblade MI3 7RA-054UK Desktop PC - (Black) (Intel i5-7400 3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, GTX 1050, Windows 10 Home)

    £430stg (€486)


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    #11
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Give me a 20 mins, I'll look through Amazon sale prices too.


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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    OK, so same as the other budget build topic:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£75.97 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£49.03 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£56.39 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£148.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.28 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.46 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £438.11
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-17 14:16 GMT+0000

    Reason why I'm recommending to spend a little extra on RX 570 over GTX 1050 is that you will get more long-term value - realistically you probably won't have to update for 3+ years whereas GTX 1050 might be outdated TODAY.

    perfrel_1920_1080.png

    You can save a few euro buying used DDR4 RAM, e.g. 55 eur on CEX or bid low on Adverts.ie (here, or here). RAM doesn't degrade over time so buying used is safe.


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