So, Drogheda seems to have turned into a war zone then....

bladespin

Done most of my Christmas shopping in Drogheda (from Navan), looked pretty busy to me.

CheerLouth

AFAIK, DP, Wallis, New Look and Evans are closing in January. DP, Wallis & Evans are part of the Arcadia group & are closing because their leases are up & because the cinema & wine bar will be going down the far end of Scotch.

Scotty #

Not nearly enough business in the current cinema to warrant another one, IMO.

Will I Am Not

bladespin wrote: »

Done most of my Christmas shopping in Drogheda (from Navan), looked pretty busy to me.

Did a fair bit myself (from Balbriggan). Never gave this feud stuff a second thought.

Twenty Grand

Scotty # wrote: »

Not nearly enough business in the current cinema to warrant another one, IMO.

Because the current cinema is sh*te compared to Swords up the road.

Kintarō Hattori

Living in Balbriggan myself and love going to Drogheda.

Dow99

CheerLouth wrote: »

AFAIK, DP, Wallis, New Look and Evans are closing in January. DP, Wallis & Evans are part of the Arcadia group & are closing because their leases are up & because the cinema & wine bar will be going down the far end of Scotch.

These closures have nothing to do with Drogheda.



DP, Wallis and Evans are all part of Arcadia Group who are in huge trouble financially in the UK and are downsizing their business.

New Look is similar and closing 85 of the 111 stores in Ire & UK.

blingrhino

i have a retail business in drogheda and its down the last 6 weeks.

it had been slightly up on last year all year up to then and we have had a significant number of customers (especially elderly ) voicing their concerns at been in the town due to the ongoing trouble.

As most of us know, drogheda retail is all over the place - 4 shopping centres ,all struggling where as if you go to Dundalk,Navan or swords it is all under one roof.

The drogheda council of that period should hang their heads in shame to allow and pass such applications but im pretty sure they did well out of it personally.

Twenty Grand

Droghedas in a terrible spot and laid out badly. If you live south you may go to the Pavilions or Dublin. North it's as handy to go to Newry and get the exchange rate.

Plus you've the two retail parks outside the town.
Town centre is a mess between half of scotch hall closes and half the Lawrence's closed.

I wouldn't be blaming traveller violence. More the circumstances.

whelan2

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Droghedas in a terrible spot and laid out badly. If you live south you may go to the Pavilions or Dublin. North it's as handy to go to Newry and get the exchange rate.

Plus you've the two retail parks outside the town.
Town centre is a mess between half of scotch hall closes and half the Lawrence's closed.

I wouldn't be blaming traveller violence. More the circumstances.

Parking in drogheda is terrible. Would put anyone off going in.

whelan2

whelan2 wrote: »

Parking in drogheda is terrible. Would put anyone off going in.

Ah I'm not sure I'd agree with that in fairness. The Haymarket is rarely full (I don't think it's ever been, even mid-Fleadh it still had the top two floors available). It's €1.30 per hour (so only 10c more than the CoCo machines) and it's fairly central.



I also find that, although it has gotten more difficult over the last 6 months, you'll generally get a parking space on Fair Street.


More on topic than that, though; I seen Mary St was closed down (not far from where the car bomb was a few weeks ago, outside the Church along there?), and €100k+ of drugs taken from a house in Moneymore.

I presume (hopefully wrongly) that Christmas day will be a busy day, as the Emergency services will be on the usual skeleton roster?

enricoh

Two fellas nabbed in navan last night with pipe bombs destined for drogheda.

Cant believe another cinema going in, i doubt theres the business for two.
Between southgate, scotch hall n laurence st there is some amount of units empty. The planners didn't care how sustainable they were, they saw the dollar signs with the rates!

Lashes28

The cinema in scotch hall is the begining of a phase, they have planning permission for a swimming pool and leisure centre in offices above the centre now, they are also seeking permission for the half built part to be build into apartments.

whelan2

Is Iceland coming to scotch Hall too?

Lashes28

Would love that but doubt it! It's gonna be a ghost town come January.

Twenty Grand

Lashes28 wrote: »

The cinema in scotch hall is the begining of a phase, they have planning permission for a swimming pool and leisure centre in offices above the centre now, they are also seeking permission for the half built part to be build into apartments.

I remember the same plans back in 2005.

furiousox

Another security alert near McDonalds right now.
Blue lights everywhere.

Drumpot

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Because the current cinema is sh*te compared to Swords up the road.

Yep, more often then not aswell you get the most ignorant w*nkers talking, using phones or just doing anything annoying. I think at least one in two times going to that cinema something painful happens. Once the lights went on right at the movie climax! At the time what was funny was that nothing bad had happened up to that and I started to think things might be ok!

I know scotch hall have had a shell of "phase 2" up for years but how did they get permission for a cinema without objection from the other place in the town center or was there any? Or who objected and succeed regarding the imax that was proposed on the southside?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I know scotch hall have had a shell of "phase 2" up for years but how did they get permission for a cinema without objection from the other place in the town center or was there any? Or who objected and succeed regarding the imax that was proposed on the southside?

If I recall correctly, both cinemas were granted permission around the same time, but Scotch Hall, realising it wasn't worth their while (as the Arc was gonna be opened a lot faster) pulled the plug on the idea.

For some reason, though, now someone has convinced them that it's a great idea. Truth be told, if a few of the stores in there ended up in the Laurence's Centre, it could make that a nicer place. I actually quite like the design and layout of the Laurence Centre.

But I'd agree with the general consensus that two cinemas is overkill, and all that will happen now is a lot of spiteful competition until neither one is making any money. Then it'll just be a case of seeing which one can outlast the other.

Would it also be the only cinema around, that's being retrofitted into a building that already serves as a hotel and apartments (I presume the sound-proofing will be megabucks)?

markc1184

furiousox wrote: »

Another security alert near McDonalds right now.
Blue lights everywhere.

Looked like a regular checkpoint at the old Xtravision shop when I passed by and a car being loaded onto a towtruck

Scotty #

Maybe Arc plan on moving to the new location? That would make more sense.

Lashes28

Scotty # wrote: »

Maybe Arc plan on moving to the new location? That would make more sense.

Nope,it's gonna have a wine bar,to attract a more upmarket clientele, in Drogheda imagine 😂

markc1184

Another shooting this afternoon. Says it all really when the breaking news update popped up on my watch and I wasn't even concerned by it. The usual suspects all lifted by Gardai again not long after it. I live close by and seen at least 2 taken away.

duffman3833

if they are taking them away, surly they have some evidence they can use against them and put them away off the streets

markc1184

duffman3833 wrote: »

if they are taking them away, surly they have some evidence they can use against them and put them away off the streets

You would think so but not the case. 1 of them was back in the area last night drinking at his gate watching everyone driving by.

irishgeo

is this violence down to ethnic minority group is that the reason the guards are afraid to go all in like they did in limerick.

IvoryTower

irishgeo wrote: »

is this violence down to ethnic minority group is that the reason the guards are afraid to go all in like they did in limerick.

One of the gangs is travellers the other isn't , both as bad as each other tbf. I'm guessing it will take a murder or two before they're forced to sort it

enricoh

IvoryTower wrote: »

One of the gangs is travellers the other isn't , both as bad as each other tbf. I'm guessing it will take a murder or two before they're forced to sort it

If it gets sorted, there's no more juicy overtime!

irishgeo

IvoryTower wrote: »

irishgeo wrote: »

is this violence down to ethnic minority group is that the reason the guards are afraid to go all in like they did in limerick.

One of the gangs is travellers the other isn't , both as bad as each other tbf. I'm guessing it will take a murder or two before they're forced to sort it

Like limerick so and roy Collins

dhaughton99

At it again last night.

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/0428/1046115-drogheda-louth/

Hoboo

Media are seriously overdoing it. Town in lockdown, armed gardai patrolling the streets. Ridiculous. They're patrolling cement road, moneymore and rathmullen. All's fine and dandy the other side of the wall (railway station bridge).

q85dw7osi4lebg

56,000 people in town and surrounding area. 5/6 lads killing each other.

Actually gas how it's being portrayed. Should be under control at this stage, bizarre how it's not.

Lord TSC

Hoboo wrote: »

Media are seriously overdoing it. Town in lockdown, armed gardai patrolling the streets. Ridiculous. They're patrolling cement road, moneymore and rathmullen. All's fine and dandy the other side of the wall (railway station bridge).

I've noticed an increased presence along the Dublin road near Southgate too. Counted 4 Gardai cars in the last 24 hours when I rarely ever see them there.

q85dw7osi4lebg

Lord TSC wrote: »

I've noticed an increased presence along the Dublin road near Southgate too. Counted 4 Gardai cars in the last 24 hours when I rarely ever see them there.

That's probably because there was an apparent aggravated burglary in Deepforde yesterday!

Good oul Drogs. :pac:

Hoboo

Lord TSC wrote: »

I've noticed an increased presence along the Dublin road near Southgate too. Counted 4 Gardai cars in the last 24 hours when I rarely ever see them there.

Relish doing an all day special for uniformed workers. High level of gardai living in the area too, no reason to be up that end (other than the Bermuda Triangle in Grange Rath but they seem to leave those lads alone/don't know who they are)

ShiverinEskimo

enricoh wrote: »

Funding my arse, called into laytown cop shop last week - door locked, blinds drawn and doorbell disconnected. 5 cop cars outside it and could here them chatting away inside.
Dunno what addition more gardai would be there!

Yes indeed what addition would Gardaí from the Meath division in a tiny part-time station in Laytown be to an ongoing feud in the Louth Division.

Hoboo

Maybe because Grange Rath (meath afaik) and Laytown/Bettystown house some of the biggest dealers in the country, who are above the guys in Drogheda?

ShiverinEskimo

Hoboo wrote: »

Maybe because Grange Rath (meath afaik) and Laytown/Bettystown house some of the biggest dealers in the country, who are above the guys in Drogheda?

Presumeably you've passed on your in-depth knowledge of this organised crime gang hierarchy to Gardaí yea?

is_that_so

Hoboo wrote: »

Maybe because Grange Rath (meath afaik) and Laytown/Bettystown house some of the biggest dealers in the country, who are above the guys in Drogheda?

Firebombing is typically about drug debts.

Hoboo

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

Presumeably you've passed on your in-depth knowledge of this organised crime gang hierarchy to Gardaí yea?

They know. Everyone knows. It's common knowledge who's who in the area. I've a good few friends in drogs and two in laytown who are guards, they don't need to be told anything.

q85dw7osi4lebg

Primetime tonight at 9.30 will be discussing the feud in Drogheda.

Hoboo

Ryland Plain Stabilizer wrote: »

Primetime tonight at 9.30 will be discussing the feud in Drogheda.

Be interesting to hear the media slant.

Some videos going around of Crosby ringing Owen Maguire taunting him, asking him to go.for a walk, and if he wants him to bring him some nappies. Headcases.

q85dw7osi4lebg

You'd think those videos would be incriminating enough to throw them away.

Tacklebox

I remember going on holidays to mosney hung around with a few drog guy's.
Hard bastards they were myself and a few Cork and limerick lads felt well out of our league.

Nice lads though as long as you stay out of agro and didnt chat up their women lol

Went back up there to Drogheda clubbing a few months later, talk about scraps outside nightclub s well fck me it wasn't a patch on friar tucks in Limerick or Burgerland in Cork

Although Wings chipper in Shannon town was nearly as bad...

Hoboo

Tacklebox wrote: »

I remember going on holidays to mosney hung around with a few drog guy's.
Hard bastards they were myself and a few Cork and limerick lads felt well out of our league.

Nice lads though as long as you stay out of agro and didnt chat up their women lol

Went back up there to Drogheda clubbing a few months later, talk about scraps outside nightclub s well fck me it wasn't a patch on friar tucks in Limerick or Burgerland in Cork

Although Wings chipper in Shannon town was nearly as bad...

Drogheda is a normal quiet town, has one estate in particular thats always been rough (but not a slap), and the others like finians and rathmullen had a reputation but again nothing to worry about other than a few really bad families which you get everywhere. Fights are few and far between especially on the town at night, maybe I'm oblivious because I'm past the young bucks with new horns stage, but think it was more common 25/30 years ago with inter-parish fighting, generally started on the football pitch.

Dominos chipper, then Abrakebabra was pretty dodgy for a few years but its closed now. No ring, no fight. WTF is it with chippers

This new 'feud' is literally between one traveller family and their runners, and one guy (backed by a well known cartel) and his runners. Cornelius Price being released this week (traveller side) so it could all escalate very quickly. Hopefully they'll wipe each other out or get caught for something soon.

Hoboo

Ryland Plain Stabilizer wrote: »

You'd think those videos would be incriminating enough to throw them away.

Not really much incriminating stuff in it, just the two of them very calmly calling each other names and throwing insults ("the smell of campfire off ya").

Scotty #

Hoboo wrote: »

Cornelius Price being released this week (traveller side) so it could all escalate very quickly. Hopefully they'll wipe each other out or get caught for something soon.

About 10-12 caravans have moved into the field beside Highlands at the top of the Rathmullen Rd over the last couple of days. I wonder is that the welcoming committee?

markc1184

Scotty # wrote: »

About 10-12 caravans have moved into the field beside Highlands at the top of the Rathmullen Rd over the last couple of days. I wonder is that the welcoming committee?

I was thinking the same myself.

NIMAN

Are the travellers drug dealers now?