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First build in years!

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  • 14-11-2018 3:17pm
    #1
    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys, I am about to build a new PC. It's going to be prodomentally for VMs for upgrading some Microsoft certs and other study labs.. I have been working in security for the last few years so I am just looking for opinions on the build below as I am a bit out of touch on hardware side of things..

    Any pointers are most welcome!

    Cooler Master N400
    Midi Tower, 2xUSB2.0, 2xUSB3.0, Audio
    €59.99

    HyperX Predator 16GB - PC4-24000 - DIMM
    DDR4, 3000MHz, 1,35V, CL15, 2x8GB
    €199.-

    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 OC - 2GB
    DisplayPort, DVI-D, HDMI
    €149.-

    Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L RGB
    Socket 775, 1150, 1151, 1155, 1156, 1356, 2011, 2011-3, 2066, AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, AM4, FM1, FM2, FM2+
    €54.95

    ASUS PRIME Z390-P
    Socket 1151 v2, Intel Z390, ATX, 4x DDR4, 2x M.2
    €147.99

    Intel Core i7-7700 - Boxed
    Socket 1151, 3.6 GHz Quad-core (4.2 GHz Turbo), 8 MB, Intel HD Graphics 630
    €369.-

    Kingston UV500 SSD - 960GB

    Corsair RM550x
    Fully Modular
    €99

    Total approx 1300...

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Will the 7700 work on Z390? I thought it was 8th and 9th gen. It's not a great MB eitherway but that said it's probably okay for a quadcore.


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    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Will the 7700 work on Z390? I thought it was 8th and 9th gen.

    I thought socket 1151 CPU would sit into a matching board?

    Now I see.. it's for 8th/9th Gen i7s...

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    Xenoronin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    Yeah... Intel made things slightly awkward recently due to increasing power requirements while they compete with AMD. A lot of the motherboards *could* be inter-operable, but aren't.
    Is there any real world benefit to using Intel for VM builds? If not, i'd say look at the new Ryzen CPUs like the 2700X or 2700 paired with a B450 or X470 motherboard. Might save you a few quid.


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    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    That's an old i7, what you want now is an i7-8700 or 9th series (pricier).


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    #6
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    IamMetaldave wrote: »
    Hi guys, I am about to build a new PC. It's going to be prodomentally for VMs for upgrading some Microsoft certs and other study labs.. I have been working in security for the last few years so I am just looking for opinions on the build below as I am a bit out of touch on hardware side of things..

    Any pointers are most welcome!

    Cooler Master N400
    Midi Tower, 2xUSB2.0, 2xUSB3.0, Audio
    €59.99

    HyperX Predator 16GB - PC4-24000 - DIMM
    DDR4, 3000MHz, 1,35V, CL15, 2x8GB
    €199.-

    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 OC - 2GB
    DisplayPort, DVI-D, HDMI
    €149.-

    Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L RGB
    Socket 775, 1150, 1151, 1155, 1156, 1356, 2011, 2011-3, 2066, AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, AM4, FM1, FM2, FM2+
    €54.95

    ASUS PRIME Z390-P
    Socket 1151 v2, Intel Z390, ATX, 4x DDR4, 2x M.2
    €147.99

    Intel Core i7-7700 - Boxed
    Socket 1151, 3.6 GHz Quad-core (4.2 GHz Turbo), 8 MB, Intel HD Graphics 630
    €369.-

    Kingston UV500 SSD - 960GB

    Corsair RM550x
    Fully Modular
    €99

    Total approx 1300...
    Your CPU would be incompatible with that motherboard.
    And it's 2 generations behind :pac:

    Here:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100x Liquid CPU Cooler (£67.97 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£88.81 @ CCL Computers)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£125.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£136.17)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card (Purchased For £0.00)
    Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £0.00)
    Other: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING + EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3 Power Supply (EU Cable) + EVGA PowerLink (£261.00)
    Total: £879.92
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-14 17:00 GMT+0000

    Much better machine for just over €1'000


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    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    Tremendous! Thanks for the input folks!

    It’s been an age since I’ve had an AMD in a machine, I’m not adverse to the idea at all.

    @KOKiki, really appriciate the effort there!

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    AMD are good these days, and much better value than Intel to boot :)


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    #9
    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    AMD are good these days, and much better value than Intel to boot :)
    Ive been reading up all evening, certainly seem to have caught up, last time I built a machine the Q6600 was the bizzo and to be fair that box is still up and running in my folks! :)
    sugarman wrote: »
    If youre going heavy on VMs, maybe go with a Ryzen 1700 over the 2600 for the extra core/thread count. Its about 20% faster in multicore tasks, but 10% slower in single/quad core.

    Theyre around the same price too, so it really depends what your main use will be that'll you get better bang for buck for.

    100% study box, no games, nothing. It’s gonna host a number of VMs for learning. Ideally I’d like to have 2 or 3 VMs running at once.

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    Xenoronin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    In that case, crank the CPU up to the 2700X and the GPU down to a GT 1030 or something (you need a graphics card as there is no onboard GPU on the Zen series unless it has a 'G' moniker.)


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    #11
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Xenoronin wrote: »
    In that case, crank the CPU up to the 2700X and the GPU down to a GT 1030 or something (you need a graphics card as there is no onboard GPU on the Zen series unless it has a 'G' moniker.)

    Just make sure it's not the GT 1030 with DDR4 as it's an utter turd.


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