RTE Radio 1: Late Debate

sgb

telekon wrote: »

I bet she spends half her time beating Daithi's hand away from her thighs underneath that desk. Whenever, i see her on it, she looks rather uncomfortable. She probably thinks she's too good for this type of fluff.

Sorry Claire, you've struck out at least twice now on the current affairs format (not counting her reading the news). You'll have to put up with Daithi's creepy, lecherous ways a while longer I'm afraid.

Was she not given the gig just for election season? Thought someone said that on here at the time...

She was brutal on Newstalk breakfast bet Ivan was delighted to get shot of her

FlutterinBantam

Heard that idiot Flanagan on 'The late Debate' tonight.

Negativity exuding from every pore.

Carville not over impressive either... bit early to judge yet.

patrick minford

no audrey carville is crap. she is a know all and constantly interrupting her guests. bring back cormac o hara. nobody could do a better job than him

Red Alert

Carville's no way as bad as Byrne. Surely something like "Off the Rails" or the Travel show would be more suitable for her.

bureau2009

Red Alert wrote: »

Carville's no way as bad as Byrne. Surely something like "Off the Rails" or the Travel show would be more suitable for her.

I think Claire Byrne is ideally suited to..................working as a nail technician perhaps??

Bobba Fett

Delighted to see Cormac O Hara back on The Late Debate. He's by far the best of the last few presenters.

padd b1975

Back last night.
It would appear Clare Byrne has mooched her way back into the hot seat.
What the hell is she doing there??
Has she friends in high places??
Very interesting times right now in political circles and RTE give us Clare.
anybody know where Cormac is?

Boulevardier

This Summer, RTE Radio 1 are again failing to honour the programme's remit to discuss politics during weeks when the Oireachtas is sitting.

I have just sent in the following complaint to RTE:


RTE Radio 1’s Late Debate programme is supposed to be broadcast during all weeks of sittings of the Oireachtas. The Oireachtas has been sitting this week, yet there is no sign of the Late debate; I suspect that if you are allowed to, you will not be putting it on again until the Autumn.

The absence of this programme for much of the year means that there is not an acceptable level of political discussion on RTE radio at night. Also, the replacement of late debate by repeats of other programmes shows that RTE radio have no idea how else to fill the 10-11PM time slot.

I therefore ask that you undertake to run the Late debate during all weeks in which the Oireachtas sits. If you are not going to do this, I demand a full and prompt explanation as to why.

bureau2009

Be careful what you wish for!

I have to leave the room when Claire Byrne is on the radio!

Dirigent

bureau2009 wrote: »

I have to leave the room when Claire Byrne is on the radio!

To be fair to her, she has improved a lot from when she and Yates did the early morning NT slot. She fills in now on MI. Still room for improvement, I grant you.

GSF

Ah Late Debate. It wasnt on that late and there wasnt much debate. Apart from that it was great.

Nascence

Think back to previous years and governments when shows like LD on RTE were the first to criticise the length of the Dails summer hols

Low and behold when they shorten the Dail holliers, Drivetime, LD and the like are still on the old rota and not a word said.

You really do have to admit RTE's got balls.

Boulevardier

Well said Nascence.

Still only a polite acknowledgement from RTE to my complaint.

Lets see what justification (if any) they can advance.

Boulevardier

I have obtained a more substantive reponse to my complaint from Tom McGuire, editor current affairs for RTE radio 1. I am sure he will not mind my pasting part of his reply here:

"The Late Debate’ is a very important element of the RTÉ Radio 1 current affairs output but the nature of the programme has always been that it is seasonal in nature. The editorial remit of the programme is to discuss the issues of the day, whether inside or outside parliament, and act as a weather vane for what might be on the current affairs agenda the following day. This often means that Dáil debates feature regularly on the programme but there never has been any formal attachment to the sitting dates of the Oireachtas."

This is interesting because apparently Late debate is NOT meant to be based on the Oireachtas sitting schedule as people think.

This does not of course address the point that Late debate has been off air for large parts of the year when there is plenty to talk about, and had filled that time slot entirely with repeats.

honeybear

Don't know whether there is a thread on this show already.
Tonights show is about alcohol sponsorship. Anyone listening to it?

BuilderPlumber

No, I'm decidedly not listening to this. In a country suffering from economic woes, it beggars belief a government keeps coming up with all these harmful to business suggestions.

What would reduction of alcohol sponsorship do to sports and festivals? It would mean most of them would either be scrapped or downsized thus reducing business for all. Drunkards and problem drinkers would drink anyway and are not influenced by adverts and sponsorship! So, it would solve nothing. Just another hardline idea by an increasingly dictatorial state? Most definitely.

The way things are, we need to be encouraging ALL types of legal business and get the people back to work. Unemployment, depression, inflation, corruption, crime, etc. are of GREATER concern to the Irish people than alcohol usage and the government should tackle these issues first.

Gergiev

What happened to Late Debate tonight?

Just as the political term moves to its most interesting legislative phase, no show?

Surely they haven't decamped for the summer break, already?

Regrettably, I suspect we all know the answer.

Public broadcasting, how are you...

honeybear

Gergiev wrote: »

What happened to Late Debate tonight?

Just as the political term moves to its most interesting legislative phase, no show?

Surely they haven't decamped for the summer break, already?

Regrettably, I suspect we all know the answer.

Public broadcasting, how are you...

You took the words out of my mouth-was all set to listen tonight....documentary comes on!
Crazy, given the political issues of the day.

Infoanon

honeybear wrote: »

You took the words out of my mouth-was all set to listen tonight....documentary comes on!
Crazy, given the political issues of the day.

Summer Holidays - back in October afaik

Gergiev

Another RTE shocker, although I vaguely remember the same thing last year.

There might have been (almost) some justification when the political season ended at the end of June, but not now when it runs for another month.

Also, because of our dysfunctional political system, a load of legislation 'concertinas up' until the end of the current session and gets 'guillotined' through with minimal debate.

Ironically, the non-license fee, commercially funded Newstalk and TV3 keep the late night, political debate flag flying while the public broadcaster treats itself to another languorous holiday, as the nation debates some of the most important issues to come before this parliament.

Pathetic...

BuilderPlumber

It is amazing how RTE in general shuts down for June, July and August. Now, a whole lot of stuff we do not miss (political or otherwise). And we don't need all this endless debate about this and that often but when something worthwhile actually does happen that needs review, there is nothing in the summer discussing it. Also, what tends to happen is that one topic takes over and other issues worth discussing are sidelined. I agree that stuff is rushed through the Dail at this time of year/early next season.

BuilderPlumber

The government and legislation needs to act fast with regard to the Anglo Irish banksters. What needs to be done is unilateral agreement and emergency legislation to get these to justice. 99.9999% of the people want these to go to jail and give their illgotten gains back. Siphoned money, etc. resting offshore is what the Irish people have for too long being paying for.

It is time for our system to stop this stupid 'recession' and get our money back by changing the laws. Why does everything have to take so long (investigation, reports, getting them to court, etc.)? There is no time to wait. If we want our reputation and for the rest of the world to take us serious as a decent country, we need to show the world we are serious and make an example out of Drummer and co. Give em 40 years initially reduce it down then if they cooperate with regard to where the siphoned cash is. Then, give this money back to the people and reverse this bankser serving austerity dictatorship.

Gergiev

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

It is amazing how RTE in general shuts down for June, July and August. Now, a whole lot of stuff we do not miss (political or otherwise). And we don't need all this endless debate about this and that often but when something worthwhile actually does happen that needs review, there is nothing in the summer discussing it. Also, what tends to happen is that one topic takes over and other issues worth discussing are sidelined. I agree that stuff is rushed through the Dail at this time of year/early next season.

It's not that amazing when you consider that most presenters there work a 40 week year, thus having 12 weeks off.

So you end up with them having most of the summer off and then disappearing for a week or two every so often, as well.

Add in the outrageous salaries and you have the bizarre situation where the Irish public is subsidising the likes of Ryan Tubridy to go off to BBC for the summer, raise his profile and earn another packet.

Late Debate performs an important role, I believe, as it comes at a time of day when the issues can be debated in depth rather than just reported like earlier during the day.

But hey, the sun is shining and Montrose can be ever-so claustrophobic when the mercury rises...

BuilderPlumber

Gergiev wrote: »

It's not that amazing when you consider that most presenters there work a 40 week year, thus having 12 weeks off.

So you end up with them having most of the summer off and then disappearing for a week or two every so often, as well.

Add in the outrageous salaries and you have the bizarre situation where the Irish public is subsidising the likes of Ryan Tubridy to go off to BBC for the summer, raise his profile and earn another packet.

Late Debate performs an important role, I believe, as it comes at a time of day when the issues can be debated in depth rather than just reported like earlier during the day.

But hey, the sun is shining and Montrose can be ever-so claustrophobic when the mercury rises...

I'd go as far as to say less than 40 hours for a lot of them. Certainly, they have a huge team doing the donkey work and most of what they themselves do is the fun parts like presenting and meeting the people. But Tubridy and co. earning 100s of 1000s for between 15 hours for a lot of weeks and at most 40 hours per week at peak times is obscene. Plus 12 weeks off in the summer and 4 weeks off or so at Christmas.

Late Debate can provide an important role and certainly would be needed at present. The opportunity to defeat the banksters is at hand and we need everything in our power to do so. Although it should be a one sided affair and not a debate per se: no one in their right mind should condone what Anglo and their allies have done. All government people should side with the people and find ways to get back what is owed from these immediately and reverse austerity and other negative policies.

Oops69

Excellent broadcaster and incisive interviewer in my opinion, how long before the muppets in Montrose take her away from politics and try her out on some other fluff like the Marion Finucane show ?

Aidric

She is very good, concise and well prepared interviewer. She would seem a natural successor to Marian Finucane but she would probably have competition from Claire Byrne for that plum slot.

washiskin

She really handled a very tricky situation well the other night when a Labour politician challenged a journalist to name LPP special advisors when he was ADAMANT there had been none employed who breached the salary cap. It could have been absolute car crash stuff (given how "emotional" he was in the wake of defeat at the recent election) had the show been chaired by any of the other "talent" in the current affairs dept. As Adric says she's always well prepared and never tries to be the star of the show in any way and has also done a great job on Drivetime whenever the tedious Mary Wilson is away.

Harry Angstrom

Audrey Carville's last show tonight. She's moving on.

CountyHurler

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Audrey Carville's last show tonight. She's moving on.

Is she working on Mrs Brown's Boys as well? It seems like everybody else in RTE is..

Oops69

Pity, have the Beeb snapped her up? , or is it maternity leave?

Harry Angstrom

Oops69 wrote: »

Pity, have the Beeb snapped her up? , or is it maternity leave?

Hopefully she's going on to something more higher profile within RTE, but still in the political sphere.

dublin_Horse

she is going to be on Morning Ireland next week so perhaps covering Claire Byrne who will be going on maternity leave shortly

washiskin

She really rescued Late Debate from a fate worse than death and gave it back a bit of dignity. Wonder who RTE will give it to now?

snubbleste

washiskin wrote: »

She really rescued Late Debate from a fate worse than death and gave it back a bit of dignity. Wonder who RTE will give it to now?

Cormac Ó hEadhra is better than Carville imo but he already does drivetime show every weekday on RnaG

I was impressed by some of the dsinging last night though

eclectichoney

Anyone know when the late debate is coming back on air? Is it september?

honeybear

Listening to show tonight. Elaine Byrne (an academic?) was a guest on it and she was just awful. Some of her points were relevant but she put them across very poorly, imo. Haven't heard her before...will tune off if I hear her again.

tv3tg4

Is this show on summer holiday?

Gergiev

tv3tg4 wrote: »

Is this show on summer holiday?

Yep, almost certainly...

If you read above, you'll see I've been complaining about this for the last few years.

Ridiculous this show abdicates its responsibility at the end of June to conform to the 'school holidays' ethos of RTE.

Equally ludicrous that so-many of the top presenters get to take their holidays simultaneously.

So much politically happens now during July, not to mention the outside world, like Greece, etc...

Brendan Bendar

Gergiev wrote: »

Yep, almost certainly...

If you read above, you'll see I've been complaining about this for the last few years.

Ridiculous this show abdicates its responsibility at the end of June to conform to the 'school holidays' ethos of RTE.

Equally ludicrous that so-many of the top presenters get to take their holidays simultaneously.

So much politically happens now during July, not to mention the outside world, like Greece, etc...

Radio 4 is your man if you want consistency and news.

RTE1 in what it does is good, but conforms to school year in terms of output and presenting staff by and large.

Even the MI stunt of reducing to one hour/ one presenter on Bank hols disrespects the listener and license payer.

This won't change though.

serfboard

Gergiev wrote: »

There might have been (almost) some justification when the political season ended at the end of June, but not now when it runs for another month.

Absolutely. I thought that the programme followed the Dail calendar, but obviously not ...

It should at least follow the Dail. Carol Coleman was presenting it there lately - AFAIK she's no longer staff so I'm sure she'd welcome the extra few quid.

qweerty

The programme used to be more ambitious. It would live up to its name and debate various issues - often ongoing rather than topical. But in at least the months since Carville left, it has come to resemble the multiple other current affairs programmes across Radio 1, which are low-maintenance, unambitious and consist of politicians or regular media contributors giving a predictable and often uninteresting take on current events (which, by nature, are often trivial). That is not debate.

Brendan Bendar

I remember when Vincent Browne had that slot.

The usual format was to have a few of Vinnies cronies in, that solicitor guy from D12 was a regular, cue a bit of joshing between them, wheel in some poor goon from the governing party, backbencher, councillor or sommat and thenVinnie would go through the poor fhooker with both barrels!!

Then the would both have another round of friendly joshing.

Total arsehole broadcasting, in my opinion.

Spanish Eyes

Cormac O'Headhra presented Late Debate for a while earlier in the year. He was just brilliant. IMV of course...

He is a hidden talent in RTE, he is on RnaG. but could sort out those wafflers on the Late Debate big time. I gave up listening to it when he was replaced by an RTE dinner party luvvie.... yes Keelin Shanley.

GET HIM BACK!

Audrey Carville was great too, she worked with BBC World Service and you would know it. Streets ahead of the rest of them.

delaad

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I remember when Vincent Browne had that slot.

The usual format was to have a few of Vinnies cronies in, that solicitor guy from D12 was a regular, cue a bit of joshing between them, wheel in some poor goon from the governing party, backbencher, councillor or sommat and thenVinnie would go through the poor fhooker with both barrels!!

Then the would both have another round of friendly joshing.

Total arsehole broadcasting, in my opinion.

Plus interminable readings of transcripts of the Mahon/Tribunal du Jour.

constitutionus

tv3tg4 wrote: »

Is this show on summer holiday?

yup.

says it all about RTE.

On the night greece stiffs the IMF for 1.6bn no one in RTE thinks it worth covering (there was no primetime show on telly about it either)

in fact even VinnyB only gave it 5min coverage when it happened live on his show

mental stuff.

for the life of me i dont get it. its like someting from the CS mentality that insists they get the day off to cash a cheque thats going into their account electroncially now.

so the hosts/regular team want some time off?

then give it to a bunch of newbies that arent related to everyone else in the station and let them run it for the months they take off

cant be bloody worse than repeats of "sunday miscellany " on a tuesday night. there is NO real excuse for the show stopping at all, or any of them that arent celebrity host based (i.e people tuning in for that host specifically).

course then ya run the risk of those lads, who are much cheaper, being better. remember what happend to marion?

Brendan Bendar

constitutionus wrote: »

yup.

says it all about RTE.

On the night greece stiffs the IMF for 1.6bn no one in RTE thinks it worth covering (there was no primetime show on telly about it either)

in fact even VinnyB only gave it 5min coverage when it happened live on his show

mental stuff.

for the life of me i dont get it. its like someting from the CS mentality that insists they get the day off to cash a cheque thats going into their account electroncially now.

so the hosts/regular team want some time off?

then give it to a bunch of newbies that arent related to everyone else in the station and let them run it for the months they take off

cant be bloody worse than repeats of "sunday miscellany " on a tuesday night. there is NO real excuse for the show stopping at all, or any of them that arent celebrity host based (i.e people tuning in for that host specifically).

course then ya run the risk of those lads, who are much cheaper, being better. remember what happend to marion?

In fairness lads like FB, Padd, and others have been highlighting this years ago.

Taking dogs abuse for it too .

honeybear

Late Debate gone crazy

Brendan Bendar

honeybear wrote: »

Late Debate gone crazy

In what way?

Do tell:rolleyes:

snubbleste

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

In what way?
Do tell:rolleyes:

They (politicians) were all talking over each other in DublinSW, slander, apologise, no, etc etc

Brendan Bendar

snubbleste wrote: »

They (politicians) were all talking over each other in DublinSW, slander, apologise, no, etc etc

Aaah the usual then, I'm sure 'lies' were mentioned.

Thanks.