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RTE Radio 1: Late Debate

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,068 ✭✭✭✭neris


    honeybear wrote: »
    Late Debate gone crazy

    Did some labour junior minister have a strop and walk out of the studio?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    neris wrote: »
    Did some labour junior minister have a strop and walk out of the studio?
    No. That's KCLR FM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Any one catch last night's show?

    If not, you missed the most preachy, hubristic woman I've ever heard.

    Karen Devine I think her name was, on the payroll in DCU apparently.

    She was a joy to behold in full flight, constantly interrupting and talking over much more knowledgeable panellists and managing to simultaneously crow bar in plugs for her own writings, Cormac's patience was hanging by a thread towards the end.

    She also insisted on pronouncing Fianna Fail as Fianna Foil, very grating on the ears at that time of night.

    Well worth a listen back on the RTE Player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Any one catch last night's show?

    If not, you missed the most preachy, hubristic woman I've ever heard.

    Karen Devine I think her name was, on the payroll in DCU apparently.

    She was a joy to behold in full flight, constantly interrupting and talking over much more knowledgeable panellists and managing to simultaneously crow bar in plugs for her own writings, Cormac's patience was hanging by a thread towards the end.

    She also insisted on pronouncing Fianna Fail as Fianna Foil, very grating on the ears at that time of night.

    Well worth a listen back on the RTE Player.

    Heard her Padd, there is a jackhammer demolishing a garage roof in the next house, that is more acceptable than that lady.

    Didn't get her name at the start but swiftly took a major dislike to her attitude,manners and downright brassy behaviour and her voice.


    Cormac was unusually floundering with her antics.

    Hopefully RTE will have noted and taken appropriate action.

    Ie don't have this lady on again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,777 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Lol. When you Google her, nearly every image is of her mouthing off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    shes some ride though !

    used to be on VinnyB back in the day.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    shes some ride though !

    used to be on VinnyB back in the day.

    :D

    Nah.

    Vinny probably let her away with it though- that's what he does.

    Always remember Sean Ardagh back in the day, ;);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Canadel


    No, I'm decidedly not listening to this. In a country suffering from economic woes, it beggars belief a government keeps coming up with all these harmful to business suggestions.

    What would reduction of alcohol sponsorship do to sports and festivals? It would mean most of them would either be scrapped or downsized thus reducing business for all. Drunkards and problem drinkers would drink anyway and are not influenced by adverts and sponsorship! So, it would solve nothing. Just another hardline idea by an increasingly dictatorial state? Most definitely.

    The way things are, we need to be encouraging ALL types of legal business and get the people back to work. Unemployment, depression, inflation, corruption, crime, etc. are of GREATER concern to the Irish people than alcohol usage and the government should tackle these issues first.
    Alcohol sponsorship is one thing, but alcohol advertising is a more serious issue, and should be seriously looked at. I would be in favour of alcohol advertising going the way of cigarettes. Both are aimed at kids more than adults, playing the long game rather than the short. It's sickening to see Guinness and other beer ads on tv tbh while cigarette advertising is banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    Quite a spirited discussion re Michael O'Leary's comments on Public Sector. Diarmaid Ferriter (I think) was particularly angry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,554 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    honeybear wrote: »
    Quite a spirited discussion re Michael O'Leary's comments on Public Sector. Diarmaid Ferriter (I think) was particularly angry

    Had to turn it off just now, turned into a total shouting fest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Had to turn it off just now, turned into a total shouting fest.

    You were 100% right to turn it off. It sickens me to see all this time wasted on stupid debate instead of agreeing to solve the problems that need to be solved. All this public v private sector stuff and the myths that go with it and all this stoking controversy for the sake of it by the media is not helpful.

    These angry debates sicken me. They also are fake for the most part. The place for this type of thing is in the courthouse. While these debates go on, real issues remain not solved. No wonder our country is messed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,554 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    You were 100% right to turn it off. It sickens me to see all this time wasted on stupid debate instead of agreeing to solve the problems that need to be solved. All this public v private sector stuff and the myths that go with it and all this stoking controversy for the sake of it by the media is not helpful.

    These angry debates sicken me. They also are fake for the most part. The place for this type of thing is in the courthouse. While these debates go on, real issues remain not solved. No wonder our country is messed up.
    Agree 100% with this.

    It's the same at election time - all the effort goes into stoking rows and squabbles between parties and candidates, and rabble-rousing, instead of informing the public of the policies and aims (however fictional they may be) of the candidates.

    As I commented on another thread, ****-stirring is all it is, and I'm utterly sick of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭tv3tg4


    The debate on o Leary was pretty hilarious. The public sector surely are they that sensitive? What o Leary did was to express his views -


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Agree 100% with this.

    It's the same at election time - all the effort goes into stoking rows and squabbles between parties and candidates, and rabble-rousing, instead of informing the public of the policies and aims (however fictional they may be) of the candidates.

    As I commented on another thread, ****-stirring is all it is, and I'm utterly sick of it.

    All this stuff is debated by the privileged few who have the nerve to talk about making decisions for ordinary people. Setting the public off against the private sector and vice versa is a common divide and conquer diversion technique. While both are accusing each other of things, policies detrimental to both are implemented by the powers that be.

    Also I think people like Michael O'Leary and Bill Cullen get too much airtime and their opinions are taken as gospel too often. They are ruthless businessmen who exploit people and who are not afraid to implement policies that would hurt most people. These people are actually both the public and private sector as they run private enterprises but also win government contracts and get support others would not get. They also would be the very types who would like to enter politics and try and sell themselves as solutions to our problems when in fact it is these very types that ARE among our problems. These are our Irish Donald Trumps only perhaps much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    All this stuff is debated by the privileged few who have the nerve to talk about making decisions for ordinary people. Setting the public off against the private sector and vice versa is a common divide and conquer diversion technique. While both are accusing each other of things, policies detrimental to both are implemented by the powers that be.

    Also I think people like Michael O'Leary and Bill Cullen get too much airtime and their opinions are taken as gospel too often. They are ruthless businessmen who exploit people and who are not afraid to implement policies that would hurt most people. These people are actually both the public and private sector as they run private enterprises but also win government contracts and get support others would not get. They also would be the very types who would like to enter politics and try and sell themselves as solutions to our problems when in fact it is these very types that ARE among our problems. These are our Irish Donald Trumps only perhaps much worse.


    Total arse there, how many people do they employ, how many people benefit from their product. Thousands lad, thousands.

    Cmon man, the state can't support you for ever.

    What you don't seem to see is the totally global effect that people who take risks provide.

    You seem to be a type who beds in to a company, usually a state one like An Post and starts burrowing in from underneath..

    Open your eyes and see what's available for those who want to get on, lad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Total arse there, how many people do they employ, how many people benefit from their product. Thousands lad, thousands.

    Cmon man, the state can't support you for ever.

    What you don't seem to see is the totally global effect that people who take risks provide.

    You seem to be a type who beds in to a company, usually a state one like An Post and starts burrowing in from underneath..

    Open your eyes and see what's available for those who want to get on, lad.

    I have zero regard for the likes of O'Leary and Cullen. It is true they employ loads of people. So too do drug dealers and pimps. O'Leary and Cullen do not give a flip about their workers (afterall Cullen expected people to work for nothing and that is the views these people have of workers if they were totally honest). They treat their workers very poorly and they provide very insecure jobs and the major problem of job insecurity (which is much worse than unemployment because it is where most Irish people are) and this mantra we are told about 'no jobs for life anymore' is due to listening to selfish, greedy idiots like O'Leary and Cullen. These vermin are the worst pinup posters we have of entrepreneurs in Ireland. One can be kind and caring and be a good businessman too.

    The state should support its citizens, else it shouldn't be there. All too often, the state ignores its citizens and instead supports the likes of O'Leary and Cullen and keeps others out. Not all can work for state companies but the state does not nurture small business startups either BECAUSE of pressure from the likes of O'Leary and Cullen.

    Risk taking is another debate. Reckless risk taking is wrong and is where many lose everything they got. Of course when the elite take risks and it goes right, they are lauded by governments and the media as heroes. When it goes wrong, the rest of us have to lose our jobs, get our hours cut, pay more taxes, and do without more services (and be sold this disgusting idea of small government) to bail out these jacks. Again it is the likes of O'Leary and Cullen. Cullen's businesses failed but he was invited onto RTE's chatshows to promote his new ones! Hardly risk taking when he KNOWS he will get the support from the government and the media to rebuild. Ordinary Joe Soap with a small restaurant, pub or shop and it fails won't get that support will he!?!

    My eyes are wide open. Those who get on like affore mentioned 2 loudmouth selfish sociopaths have ALL the big connections open to them and will block everyone else who they see as a threat to challenge them. Try promoting something O'Leary or Cullen is involved in on a national or international scale and you will see how far YOU will get!

    I'm against public v private sector rivalry, I'm against small government and I'm against the people bailing out the unsuccessful risks of the connected. That does not make me communist or capitalist, but it does make me an ordinary person who has my eyes wide open to what all these despicable people stand for. And what they stand for is NOT the ordinary people be they public or private sector employees or ordinary business people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I have zero regard for the likes of O'Leary and Cullen. It is true they employ loads of people. So too do drug dealers and pimps. O'Leary and Cullen do not give a flip about their workers (afterall Cullen expected people to work for nothing and that is the views these people have of workers if they were totally honest). They treat their workers very poorly and they provide very insecure jobs and the major problem of job insecurity (which is much worse than unemployment because it is where most Irish people are) and this mantra we are told about 'no jobs for life anymore' is due to listening to selfish, greedy idiots like O'Leary and Cullen. These vermin are the worst pinup posters we have of entrepreneurs in Ireland. One can be kind and caring and be a good businessman too.

    The state should support its citizens, else it shouldn't be there. All too often, the state ignores its citizens and instead supports the likes of O'Leary and Cullen and keeps others out. Not all can work for state companies but the state does not nurture small business startups either BECAUSE of pressure from the likes of O'Leary and Cullen.

    Risk taking is another debate. Reckless risk taking is wrong and is where many lose everything they got. Of course when the elite take risks and it goes right, they are lauded by governments and the media as heroes. When it goes wrong, the rest of us have to lose our jobs, get our hours cut, pay more taxes, and do without more services (and be sold this disgusting idea of small government) to bail out these jacks. Again it is the likes of O'Leary and Cullen. Cullen's businesses failed but he was invited onto RTE's chatshows to promote his new ones! Hardly risk taking when he KNOWS he will get the support from the government and the media to rebuild. Ordinary Joe Soap with a small restaurant, pub or shop and it fails won't get that support will he!?!

    My eyes are wide open. Those who get on like affore mentioned 2 loudmouth selfish sociopaths have ALL the big connections open to them and will block everyone else who they see as a threat to challenge them. Try promoting something O'Leary or Cullen is involved in on a national or international scale and you will see how far YOU will get!

    I'm against public v private sector rivalry, I'm against small government and I'm against the people bailing out the unsuccessful risks of the connected. That does not make me communist or capitalist, but it does make me an ordinary person who has my eyes wide open to what all these despicable people stand for. And what they stand for is NOT the ordinary people be they public or private sector employees or ordinary business people.

    Apologies if I have got this wrong, but you come across like a disgruntled An Post employee who is bedded in for life, and rather than try to better yourself, you try to dismantle things from within.

    You use your position, permanent pensionable job, unsackable, and the rest to pump out bitterness and bile against anyone who tries to make it on their own,without the being attached to teat of the state, like Coppinger and her ilk.


    Luckily there are people out there who are far seeing and willing to put their money where their mouth is, because if the country depended on people who seem to have your outlook,we would be in a morass of fetid mediocrity with the rank stench of rotten matter permanently in our nostrils.

    Get a grip lad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Apologies if I have got this wrong, but you come across like a disgruntled An Post employee who is bedded in for life, and rather than try to better yourself, you try to dismantle things from within.

    You use your position, permanent pensionable job, unsackable, and the rest to pump out bitterness and bile against anyone who tries to make it on their own,without the being attached to teat of the state, like Coppinger and her ilk.


    Luckily there are people out there who are far seeing and willing to put their money where their mouth is, because if the country depended on people who seem to have your outlook,we would be in a morass of fetid mediocrity with the rank stench of rotten matter permanently in our nostrils.

    Get a grip lad.

    For starters I am not an An Post employee. And if one was 'bedded in for life' in a permanent job I don't think we'd be complaining would we!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have worked private and public sector job and have been an employee and self employed so my story is that of seeing job insecurity. Anyone who tries to make it on their own is slapped down by the likes of Cullen and O'Leary, or whoever else it happens to be that rules the roost.

    The state's job is not only about providing public sector jobs, it is also clearly about creating a fertile ground for indigenous startup businesses. Stupid free market mantra like market forces will take care of this and that really means the big bully boys will crush any startup business and will form monopolies, oligopolies and cartels.

    Coppinger is just another politician who will one day be in government licking the boots of corrupt bullyboy businessmen and justifying their protection just like the rest of them. Why should she be any different? She is the opposition and we heard from the current government when they were in the opposition saying the very same things!

    You seem to be under the illusion that it is EASY to attain money and to make money work without your business being shot down by the superpowers of Irish indeed global business? I'd love to see a country where startups can rise to the top and create wealth and be supported by the state and not attacked by greedy monopolies who fear change. This does not exist and you fully know this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    For starters I am not an An Post employee. And if one was 'bedded in for life' in a permanent job I don't think we'd be complaining would we!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have worked private and public sector job and have been an employee and self employed so my story is that of seeing job insecurity. Anyone who tries to make it on their own is slapped down by the likes of Cullen and O'Leary, or whoever else it happens to be that rules the roost.

    The state's job is not only about providing public sector jobs, it is also clearly about creating a fertile ground for indigenous startup businesses. Stupid free market mantra like market forces will take care of this and that really means the big bully boys will crush any startup business and will form monopolies, oligopolies and cartels.

    Coppinger is just another politician who will one day be in government licking the boots of corrupt bullyboy businessmen and justifying their protection just like the rest of them. Why should she be any different? She is the opposition and we heard from the current government when they were in the opposition saying the very same things!

    You seem to be under the illusion that it is EASY to attain money and to make money work without your business being shot down by the superpowers of Irish indeed global business? I'd love to see a country where startups can rise to the top and create wealth and be supported by the state and not attacked by greedy monopolies who fear change. This does not exist and you fully know this!

    Eh....look, sorry if as it seems ,you have been 'done down' by someone or other .

    I'm sure there is some back story there, so I am not going to harp on and criticise you.

    I wish you all the best in your endeavours and hope things work out.

    I can't really say anymore.


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tv3tg4 wrote: »
    The debate on o Leary was pretty hilarious. The public sector surely are they that sensitive? What o Leary did was to express his views -
    You missed the point entirely, then.

    The point was not directly about what Michael O'Leary believes. I don't care what he thinks should happen the health service. Nobody should care. He doesn't understand governance, in the same was as Government doesn't understand the airline industry, and has no business interfering in ordinary commercial activity.

    But somebody does care about his views: Fine Gael, who apparently invite him to their events and chortle along at his stupid ideas about turning Ireland into a corporation. That's the worrying bit. The fact that Fine Gael appear to align themselves with that idiot. The fact that his opinions on governing the health service, for example, are of interest to Fine Gael.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    You missed the point entirely, then.

    The point was not directly about what Michael O'Leary believes. I don't care what he thinks should happen the health service. Nobody should care. He doesn't understand governance, in the same was as Government doesn't understand the airline industry, and has no business interfering in ordinary commercial activity.

    But somebody does care about his views: Fine Gael, who apparently invite him to their events and chortle along at his stupid ideas about turning Ireland into a corporation. That's the worrying bit. The fact that Fine Gael appear to align themselves with that idiot. The fact that his opinions on governing the health service, for example, are of interest to Fine Gael.

    Only a 'lifer' could produce a post like that.

    Open your mind.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only a 'lifer' could produce a post like that.

    Open your mind.
    What on earth is a lifer?

    If you think I work in the public service, or are otherwise dependent on the State for any of my income, you're completely incorrect. I work in the private sector and had previously emigrated.

    That's also odd, given that you were previously exhorting an end to this ridiculous public vs. private-sector division, which I happen to agree with.

    I also agree with Diarmaid Ferriter's argument that Michael O'Leary's views on running public services should be utterly ignored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    What on earth is a lifer?

    If you think I work in the public service, or are otherwise dependent on the State for any of my income, you're completely incorrect. I work in the private sector and had previously emigrated.

    That's also odd, given that you were previously exhorting an end to this ridiculous public vs. private-sector division, which I happen to agree with.

    I also agree with Diarmaid Ferriter's argument that Michael O'Leary's views on running public services should be utterly ignored.

    Not surprised you agree with poor Diarmuid, lad has a history, pardon the pun, of being a shill for calling for more and more for academia, whilst being a tad silent on giving more.

    Lad spends a lot of time in the studios of Montrose shilling various things,probably because he is based just up the road, but a cynic like myself would wonder how he gets so much time for this activity.

    Like that Wallace dude, X National Museum, these ,in my opinion are single issue punters who think John Taxpayer is as interested in their products as they seem to be.

    Not for a minute doubting their sincerity, but sometimes straight pragmatism comes out ahead of smokey theory and arty farty stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 nynik


    Does anyone know if it's on a break or something? Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭lottpaul


    Most of RTEs current affairs debate programmes e.g. Late Debate, Saturday view etc (apart from those combined with a major news bulletin) take a summer break and return when the Dáil does - late September usually. It's not too long since the Pat Kenny Show (when it was on RTE) took a full and then partial summer break too -- but I think competition forces them to keep going now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Brid Smith getting her arse handed to her on tonight’s Late Debate


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Good loser


    On tonight's show Jack O Connor must have spoken for 75% of the time.

    Tiresome tirades and platitudes, laced with condescension.

    Should be handed a P45.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Good loser wrote: »
    On tonight's show Jack O Connor must have spoken for 75% of the time.

    Tiresome tirades and platitudes, laced with condescension.

    Should be handed a P45.

    Switched it off, how many times did he mention the ‘centenary ‘.


    Complete muppet. O’Headhra tends to lose control very often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    Awful woman playing gender card ... and I’m a woman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    honeybear wrote: »
    Awful woman playing gender card ... and I’m a woman
    I only caught the last quarter of an hour.
    I'm raging I missed yet another well deserved filleting.
    Thankfully Cormac-who is prone to slightly indulging the loony left-gave her pathetic accusation short-shrift.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    What is Michael Fitzmaurice doing on Late Debate one has to ask.

    On it very often, and all he does is state the obvious time after time.

    Can be held accountable for nothing, implement nothing.

    Even a grunt like myself could go on and say “We must make sure the National debt doesn’t get out of hand”

    What’s the point of a guy coming on stating the obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What is Michael Fitzmaurice doing on Late Debate one has to ask.

    On it very often, and all he does is state the obvious time after time.

    Can be held accountable for nothing, implement nothing.

    Even a grunt like myself could go on and say “We must make sure the National debt doesn’t get out of hand”

    What’s the point of a guy coming on stating the obvious.

    He's you Brendan. His job is to remind the gov what they should be doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    He's you Brendan. His job is to remind the gov what they should be doing.

    Indeed Francie, however he’s not me, I couldn’t take a large wedge from the taxpayer and just keep pointing g out the obvious,without offering any feasible solutions or alternatives.

    I mean the solution to everything isn’t ‘tax the rich’ if you catch me dhhrift Francis.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Indeed Francie, however he’s not me, I couldn’t take a large wedge from the taxpayer and just keep pointing g out the obvious,without offering any feasible solutions or alternatives.

    I mean the solution to everything isn’t ‘tax the rich’ if you catch me dhhrift Francis.;)

    Brendan why do you come on here to generalise about people?
    His solution to 'everything' isn't what you say it is and it is not him that has implemented the tax regime in this country, that is the achievement of the the parties who have swapped power here since the foundation of the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Brendan why do you come on here to generalise about people?
    His solution to 'everything' isn't what you say it is and it is not him that has implemented the tax regime in this country, that is the achievement of the the parties who have swapped power here since the foundation of the state.

    Francis you didn’t catch me dhhrift.

    I never said that “his solution....” I said “the solution”... and the sublety didn’t register Francis;). Even the little emo didn’t give the dhrrrift.

    How is the leg?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Francis you didn’t catch me dhhrift.

    I never said that “his solution....” I said “the solution”... and the sublety didn’t register Francis;). Even the little emo didn’t give the dhrrrift.

    How is the leg?

    There was no 'subtlety' Brendan. You are pedantically imagining the existence of it.

    *We will give you a pass on not recognising the necessary components (subtle or otherwise) of any programme calling itself a 'Debate'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Didn’t hear any announcement but i guess it’s safe to assume RTÉ has mercifully jettisoned the “3 women to do one job” experiment of last year. What a terrible arrangement that was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Didn’t hear any announcement but i guess it’s safe to assume RTÉ has mercifully jettisoned the “3 women to do one job” experiment of last year. What a terrible arrangement that was.

    Yes think it’s down to two now.

    The other system was never a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Indeed Francie, however he’s not me, I couldn’t take a large wedge from the taxpayer and just keep pointing g out the obvious,without offering any feasible solutions or alternatives.

    I mean the solution to everything isn’t ‘tax the rich’ if you catch me dhhrift Francis.;)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-féin-proposes-increased-income-tax-for-higher-earners-1.2528485

    Little hint Francis......;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady



    Generalising again Brendan. :rolleyes:

    I cannot for the life of me see 'tax the rich' being offered as a 'solution to everything' in that.

    Carry on with the silliness, it isn't a frequency I tune into. Good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Yes think it’s down to two now.

    The other system was never a good idea.

    Ah they’ll get it down to one eventually. It has to go into RTÉ files under the heading “what the fck were they thinking of”. Even worse than co-presenters which is very rarely a good idea on current affairs shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    What is Michael Fitzmaurice doing on Late Debate one has to ask.

    On it very often, and all he does is state the obvious time after time.

    Can be held accountable for nothing, implement nothing.

    Even a grunt like myself could go on and say “We must make sure the National debt doesn’t get out of hand”

    What’s the point of a guy coming on stating the obvious.

    "New politics" I'm afraid B.

    Thirty years ago the likes of Fitzmaurice would be a backbench FF TD, good for nothing more than gombeening landlines and medical cards.

    These days however, FF are a toxic brand and self promotion/preservation is the order of the day for him. You can add the rural element of the Independent Alliance to the demograph as well.

    Hard going on the lugs the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    "New politics" I'm afraid B.

    Thirty years ago the likes of Fitzmaurice would be a backbench FF TD, good for nothing more than gombeening landlines and medical cards.

    These days however, FF are a toxic brand and self promotion/preservation is the order of the day for him. You can add the rural element of the Independent Alliance to the demograph as well.

    Hard going on the lugs the lot of them.

    Good call p....that’s why I cannot understand why he is a regular on the LD.

    Responsible for nothing, can do nothing, can implement nothing.

    It’s like some presenter asking me “Here we have one of Westmeaths best supporters,now Brenno, how can we improve the fortunes of Westmeath in next years Football campaign”

    “Lookit John,we have to make sure the lads is taken care of . Cars for everyone, meals delivered with the best nutritionists at hand, let’s get in elite world class trainers,fully qualified, pay them the going rate, then strength and conditioning, we have to make sure they have world class facilities,experienced trainers,proper kit, proper boots and the like. We have to make sure the people of rural Ireland are not left behind in all this”

    “And tell me Brenno how is the county board and Westmeath GAA going to fund and drive this through”

    “How the fcuk would I know that,John, lookit the lads deserve the best, it’s up to those fat hoors on the county board to sort that out. Sitting scratching their holes up at Athlone, whole shower of them should be sacked,useless kernts.”

    “And Brenno will you be fighting for a place on the board to make sure all this great aspiration comes to pass”

    “ Lookit ..I will in me bollix, my job is to point out what the county boards job is,pal”

    “ Bren....I’m not your pal………………”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    Yes think it’s down to two now.

    The other system was never a good idea.




    Down to two? I only ever hear one present the programme now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Mondo from Dublin


    They've already dropped Finonula Sweeneys Thursday night international news edition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    Katie Hannon full time host now i think. Until the new year i presume. Bit of a shambles.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 139 ✭✭alexmalalex


    What happened to the late debate with Sara McIn. It has been missing for weeks? Anyone know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭dublin_Horse


    Sarah is gone on maternity leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 VCR repair man


    It only came back after the Halloween break last Wednesday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Katy Hannon is presenting this now. I just find her accent a bit off putting. She's somewhat dull. I much prefer a presenter with a bit of personality.


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