Simone O’Broin: If i say boycott.... done.

inforfun

Or how to **** up your career in 1 easy step: get completely ****ed up on wine on a flight from Mumbai to London.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2018/11/15/in-vino-veritas-prominent-bds-leader-arrested-after-drunken-racist-rant-against-staff-on-air-india-flight/

And video of said event: https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7563843/86ddc8a5/mevrouw_wil_wijn_.html

Great if you pay for business class and that idiot comes to liven up the place a bit.

Cabin crew should be issued with tasers for pricks like that.

kneemos

The fear will be strong.

For Forks Sake

Aegir wrote: »

Cabin crew should be issued with tasers for pricks like that.

Cabin crew would be well justified in throwing her out the door in mid-air.

mad muffin

India stand with Israel so yeah…

markodaly

"I'm an international, human rights lawyer for the Palestinian people.... so give me a bottle of wine ya Indian Cnut!"

What a lovely individual. Just goes to show the true nature and ego of many of these BDS fools.

Zorya

Oh. My. Goodness. That is awful.

markodaly

Zorya wrote: »

Oh. My. Goodness. That is awful.

She is a grade A loon.
http://www.israellycool.com/2018/11/14/anti-zionist-no-antisemite-of-the-day-simone-obroin/

dotsman

Why are they calling her Irish?

Granted, she has an Irish name, but I understand she was born in the UK, raised in the UK, lives in the UK, and in the video, clearly has a British (London?) accent.

P.S. Never heard of her before now. Anyone with any background on this muppet?

markodaly

dotsman wrote: »

Why are they calling her Irish?

Granted, she has an Irish name, but I understand she was born in the UK, raised in the UK, lives in the UK, and in the video, clearly has a British (London?) accent.

P.S. Never heard of her before now. Anyone with any background on this muppet?

I think she is from NI originally, given her threats to get the cabin crew shot by the IRA.

Well, maybe we all could have just followed that "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing" maxim:

Irish lawyer who racially abused flight crew found dead after jail release

Poor lady. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam.

ILoveYourVibes

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, maybe we all could have just followed that "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing" maxim:

Irish lawyer who racially abused flight crew found dead after jail release

Poor lady. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam.

Then perhaps choose thread that is not so embarrassing for the family to post news of her death. Or make a new one.

Your Face

There was another thread on this and it finished with the news that she was found dead soon after leaving prison.

She made a mistake and was targeted by self-righteous trolls because of it - looks like the death threats did the trick.

ILoveYourVibes

Your Face wrote: »

There was another thread on this and it finished with the news that she was found dead soon after leaving prison.

She made a mistake and was targeted by self-righteous trolls because of it - looks like the death threats did the trick.

She was a self righteous troll.

Your Face

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

She was a self righteous troll.

That comment is so ignorant.

ILoveYourVibes

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I'm not surprised people think she's Irish,.the filthy tongue on her

What is really weird is she has gone for an Irish version of her name but well..its O for a woman but should it not be Ni Bhroin?

Why use the Irish version if you are going to get it incorrect?

Canis Lupus

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, maybe we all could have just followed that "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing" maxim:

Irish lawyer who racially abused flight crew found dead after jail release

Poor lady. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam.

A sentiment she should have followed herself.

ILoveYourVibes

Your Face wrote: »

That comment is so ignorant.

She was fake as is clearly demonstrated.

She was also highly antisemitic. Clearly she thinks she is better than everyone else because she is white.

There is a rank smell of white supremacy from BDS sometimes. Some of them don't even speak well of Palestinians.

This is one of her rants.


The Poway shooting was at a chabad congregation.

ILoveYourVibes

I have zero issue with people marking her death with respect etc. But BDS is actually full of white supremacists who hate muslims as much as they hate jews. The rest are just very naive people who leave as soon as they realize there are neo nazis in their midst.

Gimme A Pound

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, maybe we all could have just followed that "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing" maxim.

Why? We weren't to know of this outcome. People who make the news get discussed.

That said, it's terrible that she's dead. An absolute joke that people who were angry at her for her treatment of others, behave in a similar fashion.

ILoveYourVibes

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

Why? We weren't to know of this outcome. People who make the news get discussed.

That said, it's terrible that she's dead. An absolute joke that people who were angry at her for her treatment of others, behave in a similar fashion.

I know why put news of her death in a thread about her horrible incident?

It would have been kinder to make a separate thread.


People don't read the last post of a thread before posting they read the OP.

Calhoun

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, maybe we all could have just followed that "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing" maxim:

Irish lawyer who racially abused flight crew found dead after jail release

Poor lady. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam.

The danger here is that she could be used as an example to really start locking down on the non-person culture going around of late.

Maybe not this one but eventually it will hit a stride and legislators will move in.

ILoveYourVibes

Calhoun wrote: »

The danger here is that she could be used as an example to really start locking down on the non-person culture going around of late.

Maybe not this one but eventually it will hit a stride and legislators will move in.

I don't understand ..? non person culture??

Calhoun

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I don't understand ..? non person culture??

The making something go viral then dog pilling the person who you aren't happy with and essentially ostracizing them.

The lady above said some pretty bad stuff that was indefensible but now after this was it a case that she was not all there.

ILoveYourVibes

Calhoun wrote: »

The making something go viral then dog pilling the person who you aren't happy with and essentially ostracizing them.

The lady above said some pretty bad stuff that was indefensible but now after this was it a case that she was not all there.

I know a bit more of the background.

She said racist things before not only about Jews.

I guess she was as sane as any white supremacist.

Being mentally ill doesn't excuse anyone being a jerk. Plenty of people are not all there technically and are nice people.

She was given a lot of credibility from society though for a long time even in the face of a lot of horrible views.

And TBH is anyone in BDS all there?

hatrickpatrick

Copying this from Reddit because maybe someone can shed some light on this psychologically:

I'm genuinely not trying to be a dick here, I just honestly find it utterly perplexing how it's even remotely possible for anyone (other than insecure preteens) to genuinely be psychologically affected by words written by random strangers who you don't know and will never actually meet or interact with in person. I just don't get it. There's the internet, and then there's real life. How are there so many people who can't compartmentalise the two?

Like, I totally get it if someone gets depressed, self harms, or even commits suicide because of abuse and bullying from people they actually know in real life, where it's just an extension of one's real-life social woes. But random, faceless accounts on social media which belong to people you've never physically interacted with in any way? It's just.... Who cares? f*ck'em, like.

Again, not trying to minimise the fact that clearly some people do get psychologically damaged by anonymous abuse online. I just don't get it. Maybe it's because I've been using anonymous online forums since my own preteens so I've just always thought of the internet as a thunderdome where (a) anything goes as far as personal abuse, but also (b) it's supremely unimportant and meaningless, coming from random strangers totally separate to one's real life. I was getting "death threats" under the name hatrickpatrick before I was even legally old enough to have any online accounts (usually in the context of online video game flame wars) and they've never bothered me simply because "I don't even know you, I couldn't give a bollocks what you have to say. Good day sir."

I guess the modern social media age doesn't train people to compartmentalise their online life and real life the way the old, pseudonymous internet naturally did?

Does anyone else find this kind of thing bizarre?

Calhoun

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I know a bit more of the background.

She said racist things before not only about Jews.

I guess she was as sane as any white supremacist.

Being mentally ill doesn't excuse anyone being a jerk. Plenty of people are not all there technically and are nice people.

She was given a lot of credibility from society though for a long time even in the face of a lot of horrible views.

And TBH is anyone in BDS all there?

I don't know what BDS is. I am also not saying being mentally ill is an excuse for anything.

What i am saying is that eventually the wrong person will be caught out by something like this and you will see a fairly heavy legislative hand come into play.

ILoveYourVibes

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Copying this from Reddit because maybe someone can shed some light on this psychologically:

I'm genuinely not trying to be a dick here, I just honestly find it utterly perplexing how it's even remotely possible for anyone (other than insecure preteens) to genuinely be psychologically affected by words written by random strangers who you don't know and will never actually meet or interact with in person. I just don't get it. There's the internet, and then there's real life. How are there so many people who can't compartmentalise the two?

Like, I totally get it if someone gets depressed, self harms, or even commits suicide because of abuse and bullying from people they actually know in real life, where it's just an extension of one's real-life social woes. But random, faceless accounts on social media which belong to people you've never physically interacted with in any way? It's just.... Who cares? f*ck'em, like.

Again, not trying to minimise the fact that clearly some people do get psychologically damaged by anonymous abuse online. I just don't get it. Maybe it's because I've been using anonymous online forums since my own preteens so I've just always thought of the internet as a thunderdome where (a) anything goes as far as personal abuse, but also (b) it's supremely unimportant and meaningless, coming from random strangers totally separate to one's real life. I was getting "death threats" under the name hatrickpatrick before I was even legally old enough to have any online accounts (usually in the context of online video game flame wars) and they've never bothered me simply because "I don't even know you, I couldn't give a bollocks what you have to say. Good day sir."

I guess the modern social media age doesn't train people to compartmentalise their online life and real life the way the old, pseudonymous internet naturally did?

Does anyone else find this kind of thing bizarre?

I really don't believe she was getting death threats for a minute. Maybe in her head she was.

Calhoun

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Copying this from Reddit because maybe someone can shed some light on this psychologically:

I'm genuinely not trying to be a dick here, I just honestly find it utterly perplexing how it's even remotely possible for anyone (other than insecure preteens) to genuinely be psychologically affected by words written by random strangers who you don't know and will never actually meet or interact with in person. I just don't get it. There's the internet, and then there's real life. How are there so many people who can't compartmentalise the two?

Like, I totally get it if someone gets depressed, self harms, or even commits suicide because of abuse and bullying from people they actually know in real life, where it's just an extension of one's real-life social woes. But random, faceless accounts on social media which belong to people you've never physically interacted with in any way? It's just.... Who cares? f*ck'em, like.

Again, not trying to minimise the fact that clearly some people do get psychologically damaged by anonymous abuse online. I just don't get it. Maybe it's because I've been using anonymous online forums since my own preteens so I've just always thought of the internet as a thunderdome where (a) anything goes as far as personal abuse, but also (b) it's supremely unimportant and meaningless, coming from random strangers totally separate to one's real life. I was getting "death threats" under the name hatrickpatrick before I was even legally old enough to have any online accounts (usually in the context of online video game flame wars) and they've never bothered me simply because "I don't even know you, I couldn't give a bollocks what you have to say. Good day sir."

I guess the modern social media age doesn't train people to compartmentalise their online life and real life the way the old, pseudonymous internet naturally did?

Does anyone else find this kind of thing bizarre?

We live in a world where a social media manager/dev for a games company was doxxed because of a joke on twitter that they may or may not have had a hand in.

People intentionally find out who you are and try and track you down, its not like it used to be there is much more of a mob mentality.

Calhoun

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I really don't believe she was getting death threats for a minute. Maybe in her head she was.

How do you know? are you glad she killed herself? you seem very dismissive of her. Did she deserve to die because of her beliefs?

hatrickpatrick

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I really don't believe she was getting death threats for a minute. Maybe in her head she was.

Maybe not, but even if she was, what of it? Random strangers on the internet say all kinds of sh!t on a daily basis. I genuinely can't get my head around how it can possibly have any bigger impact on someone's life than the minor annoyance of having to turn push notifications off for a while to stop your phone buzzing with messages from randomers which crowd out messages from people you know about things you actually need to know about. Beyond that.... I mean no offense to either of ye, but if ILoveYourVibes or Calhoun were to message me and say something like "I will hunt you down and stick a knife in your heart" I'd just be like "...Good luck with that, random strangers. What else ya got?"

I don't mean to sound flippant because the number of cases like this in recent years shows that obviously many people do genuinely care what random internet strangers have to say about them, I just have genuinely spent many years trying as hard as I can to get into that mindset and I just can't do it. It doesn't compute, at all. I cannot comprehend on any level how anyone could care what [insert random strangers' name here] has to say. If you don't know someone in real life, if what they're writing to you doesn't materially affect your actual real life relationships in any way, then what of it? It's utterly meaningless, and it's really sad that anyone would take the internet seriously enough to self-harm over the idiotic ramblings of people who have no relationship with them outside the computer screen.

ILoveYourVibes

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Maybe not, but even if she was, what of it? Random strangers on the internet say all kinds of sh!t on a daily basis. I genuinely can't get my head around how it can possibly have any bigger impact on someone's life than the minor annoyance of having to turn push notifications off for a while to stop your phone buzzing with messages from randomers which crowd out messages from people you know about things you actually need to know about. Beyond that.... I mean no offense to either of ye, but if ILoveYourVibes or Calhoun were to message me and say something like "I will hunt you down and stick a knife in your heart" I'd just be like "...Good luck with that, random strangers. What else ya got?"

I don't mean to sound flippant because the number of cases like this in recent years shows that obviously many people do genuinely care what random internet strangers have to say about them, I just have genuinely spent many years trying as hard as I can to get into that mindset and I just can't do it. It doesn't compute, at all. I cannot comprehend on any level how anyone could care what [insert random strangers' name here] has to say. If you don't know someone in real life, if what they're writing to you doesn't materially affect your actual real life relationships in any way, then what of it? It's utterly meaningless, and it's really sad that anyone would take the internet seriously enough to self-harm over the idiotic ramblings of people who have no relationship with them outside the computer screen.

I dont like the woman but i don't think its ok to do that to her.

hatrickpatrick

Calhoun wrote: »

We live in a world where a social media manager/dev for a games company was doxxed because of a joke on twitter that they may or may not have had a hand in.

People intentionally find out who you are and try and track you down, its not like it used to be there is much more of a mob mentality.

But what are they going to do, risk going to jail for 20 years in order to kill someone they got pissed off about after watching a YouTube video? It's a totally empty threat. Keyboard warriors simply aren't worth the time getting real-life upset by.

Again, I accept that I come from a different era of the internet where baring your whole real life persona for the world to see wasn't the norm. So maybe that why I can't relate. But I have a Twitter account which uses my real name, and unless I get a death threat or hurtful message from someone I know and care about in real life, depending on my mood I'll either block the random stranger or f*ck with them a bit over DM for the craic. Because at the end of the day, you know they're not going to do anything real other than typing words on a keyboard and sending them to you.

hatrickpatrick

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I dont like the woman but i don't think its ok to do that to her.

Oh I'm not justifying being an asshole to her, at all. I'm merely confused about why it mattered on her end, if you get me. It's not ok, but at the same time it's also not something that makes any logical sense (to my mind) to get upset about if some stranger does that to you over the internet.

Calhoun

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

But what are they going to do, risk going to jail for 20 years in order to kill someone they got pissed off about after watching a YouTube video? It's a totally empty threat. Keyboard warriors simply aren't worth the time getting real-life upset by.

Again, I accept that I come from a different era of the internet where baring your whole real life persona for the world to see wasn't the norm. So maybe that why I can't relate. But I have a Twitter account which uses my real name, and unless I get a death threat or hurtful message from someone I know and care about in real life, depending on my mood I'll either block the random stranger or f*ck with them a bit over DM for the craic. Because at the end of the day, you know they're not going to do anything real other than typing words on a keyboard and sending them to you.

Well we have seen cases of people contacting employers until the person they are targetting is fired. Doxxing and all the otherstuff that comes with it, if you can imagine for a sec that some people don't have the old network of friends like you used to, allot of who they are is built up in their online persona.

You come from the same era as myself i am not quite sure how you don't understand how something like this could harm.

Gimme A Pound

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Copying this from Reddit because maybe someone can shed some light on this psychologically:

I'm genuinely not trying to be a dick here, I just honestly find it utterly perplexing how it's even remotely possible for anyone (other than insecure preteens) to genuinely be psychologically affected by words written by random strangers who you don't know and will never actually meet or interact with in person. I just don't get it. There's the internet, and then there's real life. How are there so many people who can't compartmentalise the two?

Like, I totally get it if someone gets depressed, self harms, or even commits suicide because of abuse and bullying from people they actually know in real life, where it's just an extension of one's real-life social woes. But random, faceless accounts on social media which belong to people you've never physically interacted with in any way? It's just.... Who cares? f*ck'em, like.

Again, not trying to minimise the fact that clearly some people do get psychologically damaged by anonymous abuse online. I just don't get it. Maybe it's because I've been using anonymous online forums since my own preteens so I've just always thought of the internet as a thunderdome where (a) anything goes as far as personal abuse, but also (b) it's supremely unimportant and meaningless, coming from random strangers totally separate to one's real life. I was getting "death threats" under the name hatrickpatrick before I was even legally old enough to have any online accounts (usually in the context of online video game flame wars) and they've never bothered me simply because "I don't even know you, I couldn't give a bollocks what you have to say. Good day sir."

I guess the modern social media age doesn't train people to compartmentalise their online life and real life the way the old, pseudonymous internet naturally did?

Does anyone else find this kind of thing bizarre?

Well it does affect people, so accept it. I know it would affect me if it were an absolute bombardment.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I really don't believe she was getting death threats for a minute. Maybe in her head she was.

Why wouldn't she be? It happens - why would she be an exception?

ILoveYourVibes

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

Well it does affect people, so accept it. I know it would affect me if it were an absolute bombardment.

Why wouldn't she be? It happens - why would she be an exception?

Well she was in prison for one so she wouldn't have been online.

She was lying.

ILoveYourVibes

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Oh I'm not justifying being an asshole to her, at all. I'm merely confused about why it mattered on her end, if you get me. It's not ok, but at the same time it's also not something that makes any logical sense (to my mind) to get upset about if some stranger does that to you over the internet.

She was in prison. She was released just days before her death. She wouldn't have been able to have access to her social media accounts for a long time prior to her death..

It was nothing to do with it.

Guy:Incognito

If only the likes of twitter didnt force everyone to have an account, then also force them to keep that account after if turns out they are a **** and other people start saying **** things to them, then force them to read those things people have said...............

ILoveYourVibes

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If only the likes of twitter didnt force everyone to have an account, then also force them to keep that account after if turns out they are a **** and other people start saying **** things to them, then force them to read those things people have said...............

Honestly glad i don't have a twitter.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If only the likes of twitter didnt force everyone to have an account, then also force them to keep that account after if turns out they are a **** and other people start saying **** things to them, then force them to read those things people have said...............

She didn’t have to be on twitter for this to blow up.

Not that twitter is healthy, mind you.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I know a bit more of the background.

She said racist things before not only about Jews.

I guess she was as sane as any white supremacist.

Being mentally ill doesn't excuse anyone being a jerk. Plenty of people are not all there technically and are nice people.

She was given a lot of credibility from society though for a long time even in the face of a lot of horrible views.

And TBH is anyone in BDS all there?

?

I thought she was a human rights lawyer?

ILoveYourVibes

Well I didn't like her obviously.

But I am sorry she is dead. Not just for her family but for her too.

It's sad.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Your Face wrote: »

She made a mistake and was targeted by self-righteous trolls because of it - looks like the death threats did the trick.

That was some "mistake" to make though.

Those troll cnuts are another matter altogether and really need to pay the consequence of their actions.

ILoveYourVibes

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

?

I thought she was a human rights lawyer?

Are you kidding ?

Have you seen some of the stuff she has written??

PUBLICLY??








Many Muslims complained about the above claiming it was a racist stereotype of them. Her account was suspended.

She continuously refers to muslims in degenerate terms.






She denied the holocaust and had her account suspended AGAIN.


The types of groups BDS have supporting them are really circling the drain.


Just look at what she is saying ...Chabad she says have a fishy smell that is the congregation the poway shooter attacked. THIS WAS AFTER THE SHOOTING. SHE IS DIRECTLY REFERRING TO THEM. I doubt she heard of them before that. Look at the way she talks about muslims and jews.

Her rant although intoxicated was saying 'I defend you people etc I don't get paid etc'

I mean who would pay her?

She constantly talks about Palestinians and muslims in lesser terms etc. Like they are not real people. And they are all one giant person Indians are just like Palestinians.

Which is daft because India supports Israel. They share a lot of intelligence etc and have military ties.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

I don’t even know who chabad is or are.

inforfun

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

Well it does affect people, so accept it. I know it would affect me if it were an absolute bombardment.

Why wouldn't she be? It happens - why would she be an exception?

Wouldnt be the first one to **** up fantastically and then try to get the attention diverted by claiming receiving death threats.
That is why people are a bit more sceptical now when that card is pulled.

markodaly

She was a Grade A loon and bat$hit crazy but RIP.

Perhaps if she sought out some mental and spiritual guidance/balance in her life rather than hanging her hat on the 'activist' stuff she may well be still with us.

Calhoun

inforfun wrote: »

Wouldnt be the first one to **** up fantastically and then try to get the attention diverted by claiming receiving death threats.
That is why people are a bit more sceptical now when that card is pulled.

Wouldn't be the first one at all but it also does not mean that there isn't a vicious side to online that looks to try and punish people as much as possible for online indiscretions being judge jury and executioner.

One does not excuse the other and the big concern is that politicians who are already making inroads to control more of online content will use cases like these to socialize the web.

lawred2

never heard of BDS before

or this lady

I'm unmoved

Odhinn

A disturbed person, facing a very disfiguring amputation, and evidently abusing drink on a regular basis, with a career in tatters. It's somewhat tragic and not something to pile agendas on.