European Parliament Elections 2019

Thrashssacre

Re the exit polls in Holland: wouldn’t more divisive parties tend to do worse in exit polls particularly if there taken in a public place?

utmbuilder

Do not dump lol videos here please.

eagle eye

Are exit polls accurate these days? The pre-election polls certainly are not.

L1011

eagle eye wrote: »

Are exit polls accurate these days? The pre-election polls certainly are not.

Generally have a much higher confidence than pre election polls. You're asking people who actually voted for starters

Scoundrel

Ming.1 Carthy.2 McHugh.3 Brennan.4 for me this morning left the rest blank

FreudianSlippers

I genuinely can't fathom why people vote for Ming, is it a protest vote thing?

AndrewJRenko

Stephen15 wrote: »

For me it will be

1. Gemma O'Doherty
2. Ben Gilroy
3. Herman Kelly

Make sure the chemtrails don't get you on your way to the polling station. Are you happy about how Hermann is being funded by UK Nazis?

friendlyfun

I voted for Malcolm Byrne in Ireland south.

Tell me how

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I genuinely can't fathom why people vote for Ming, is it a protest vote thing?

I won't be voting for him myself as he is not in my region but I do think he is hard working.
I don't agree with his view of the EU being a federal project but I think he is motivated to represent his constituents as well as he can.

Danzy

Tell me how wrote: »

I won't be voting for him myself as he is not in my region but I do think he is hard working.
I don't agree with his view of the EU being a federal project but I think he is motivated to represent his constituents as well as he can.

Is it even contentious to say the EU is a Federal project.

VinLieger

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Make sure the chemtrails don't get you on your way to the polling station. Are you happy about how Hermann is being funded by UK Nazis?

I do love the irony of Gilroy a devout Freeman going up for election, not to mention his attempt to force RTE to let him into the debate by using the court system which as a freeman he would normally claim as any ruling from our courts as being illegitimate.

FreudianSlippers

Danzy wrote: »

Is it even contentious to say the EU is a Federal project.

Of course it is - there is absolutely zero intent on the part of any Member State to cede its sovereignty to the EU as a federal state. It's completely unrealistic to believe that Germany or France are remotely interested in the other country being in charge of the other's nation, let alone the more loony states like Italy, Greece or Spain having a say in what Germany/France do.

Danzy

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I genuinely can't fathom why people vote for Ming, is it a protest vote thing?

He would be considered one of the more capable and hardworking Meps from here in the last few EU parliaments by Meps there.

FreudianSlippers

Danzy wrote: »

He would be considered one of the more capable and hardworking Meps from here in the last few EU parliaments by Meps there.

Source?

badtoro

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I genuinely can't fathom why people vote for Ming, is it a protest vote thing?

I voted for him. He got #2 after Harkin last time out. I don't agree with all of his views but I find him the best for my agenda by a significant distance.

I am in agriculture, in this state 80% of the CAP funding used to go to 20% of the farmers, thanks to a wide coalition of people including Ming, this is slowly changing.

He, along with Harkin (who endorsed him and voted #1 for Ming), broke the firewall between citizens and decision makers in Brussels that others were happy to erect so as to restrict and fudge access to information.

Indirectly, through a role I used to have in ag, I have much experience of Ming. I find him honest and hard working, with a genuine interest in (there's no un-twee way of saying this) ordinary and disadvantaged people.

He's quite intelligent and creative in solution building.

charlie14

blanch152 wrote: »

Maybe I am missing something, or maybe Wikipedia is wrong, but......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_European_Parliament_election_in_Ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Irish_local_elections

FG got 22.28% in the 2014 European elections
FG got 24% in the 2014 local elections.

I am confused as to how you conclue that they had a very good European election whereas their local elections were a bit of a disaster. To me, neither vote was very good, but the locals were significantly better than the Euros, which is the opposite of your post.

Politics is all about seats, so perhaps your confusion is not seeing the woods for the trees here.



2014 FG entered the European election with 4 seats out of 12 and ended the day with the same, 4 seats. But this time out of 11.


On the same day FG entered the local elections (where the number of seats had increased from 883 seats in 2009 to 949) with 340 seats and ended the day with 235. A loss of 105 seats where the number of seats available was greater.

rivegauche

VinLieger wrote: »

I do love the irony of Gilroy a devout Freeman going up for election, not to mention his attempt to force RTE to let him into the debate by using the court system which as a freeman he would normally claim as any ruling from our courts as being illegitimate.

More important question; can this miserable excuse for a man actually hurl? The hurl in his (self)promotional videos looks brand new. Is the hurl just an affectation/prop? The hurl certainly doesn't look like it rests easy in hands.

Rossie11

Scoundrel wrote: »

Ming.1 Carthy.2 McHugh.3 Brennan.4 for me this morning left the rest blank

Similar and left the rest blank

1. Ming
2. McHugh
3. Brennan
4. Carthy

Eric Cartman

1) Casey
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Zubeneschamali

Eric Cartman wrote: »

1) Casey
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Yep, I think Casey will get a fair number of those. Without transfers, no chance.

is_that_so

Indeed. I forgot he was on the ballot paper!:P

eagle eye

FreudianSlippers wrote:

I genuinely can't fathom why people vote for Ming, is it a protest vote thing?

Well I'll get voting for him because he voted against restricting freedom on the internet. I won't be voting for Mairead McGuiness because she voted to restrict freedom in the internet.

Fan of Netflix

1/ Ming
2/ Carthy
3/ Casey
4/ McHugh

Only planned voting for the first 2 but in the box decided to scribble down a 3rd and 4th. Was hard going, fair play to anyone who fills every preference!

Eric Cartman

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Yep, I think Casey will get a fair number of those. Without transfers, no chance.

He got a huge amount of 2s to michael d voters last time around , make no mistake, what the man says resonates in rural ireland and he’s not playing with liberal dublin, i reckon he’ll steal the 4th seat.

Hotblack Desiato

Eric Cartman wrote: »

He got a huge amount of 2s to michael d voters last time around

There was only one count, so nobody knows who got Michael D's no.2s.

Fan of Netflix

Reckon McHugh has a shot, my old man voted for her. As far from a Green party voter as you'd get. Brendan Smith won't do well IMO.

Zubeneschamali

Eric Cartman wrote: »

what the man says resonates in rural ireland and he’s not playing with liberal dublin, i reckon he’ll steal the 4th seat.

Ming and Carthy will hoover up that rural anti establishment vote, and they won't have a big surplus to throw his way.

He'll need transfers from the Greens (ha!), FF (nope), Solidarity (why not, they're mad), Renua (maybe, a bit fascist), and the whole crowd of loonie Independents (yes, probably).

So it's doable, but no, I don't think he'll do it.

He'll get a certain number of first preferences from protest voters like yourself, and then see people pass him as the votes transfer, but not to him.

Finish 6th I'd say.

is_that_so

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

There was only one count, so nobody knows who got Michael D's no.2s.

It's an urban myth.

is_that_so

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Ming and Carthy will hoover up that rural anti establishment vote, and they won't have a big surplus to throw his way.

He'll need transfers from the Greens (ha!), FF (nope), Solidarity (why not, they're mad), Renua (maybe, a bit fascist), and the whole crowd of loonie Independents (yes, probably).

So it's doable, but no, I don't think he'll do it.

He'll get a certain number of first preferences from protest voters like yourself, and then see people pass him as the votes transfer, but not to him.

Finish 6th I'd say.

You left out Dom. He could get 3% or so on FPVs and they won't go his way either.

Zubeneschamali

is_that_so wrote: »

You left out Dom. He could get 3% or so on FPVs and they won't go his way either.

I actually forgot Dom while voting, too. I gave up in despair after 8 candidates, I think Ming got #8.