European Parliament Elections 2019

Wheeliebin30

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Particularly coming so soon after the killing of Lyra McKee by dissident Republicans in Derry.

Mary Lou and her “up the rebels” party speech last year.

Morons.

LuckyLloyd

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Saoirse McHugh just on Newstalk already boxing off options and painting herself into a corner of irrelevancy .

Things are moving very fast for her the last couple of weeks. She shouldn't have had said that about a potential coalition government, even if she believes it. There's potentially a place for a firebrand independent MEP who offers an uncompromising voice on Green issues during the coming decade, where Green issues are likely to dominate political agendas at all levels. So I wouldn't be using "irrelevant" just yet.

She's going to have to learn on the job though in terms of playing the game.

suicide_circus

I for one am shocked that the electorate did not want to hear more of Rita Harrold's "Socialist Feminist voice"

Itssoeasy

suicide_circus wrote: »

I for one am shocked that the electorate did not want to hear more of Rita Harrold's "Socialist Feminist voice"

Who ?

Christy42

robman60 wrote: »

Very naive. I would have thought the best chance to actually bring about green policies (that's what politics is about, right?) Would be to acknowledge that a good place for the greens would be as a mitigating force in coalition with FF or FG

Utopian vision of a green majority may sound nice to her, but Cuffe is far more realistic. I heard him say if the other parties adopt green policies that would be as got as political office for him which I thought was a selfless thing to say.

The minority party is never a particularly mitigating force on the big party. See last time out (even if they did get some good stuff through they are pummeled on the big stuff they we're never going to stop.

suicide_circus

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Who ?

She was running in Dublin.

For some reason this poster didn't't convince people;

Itssoeasy

Richard Boyd Barrett is the last person you'd think would be on the left.

Eric Cartman

suicide_circus wrote: »

I for one am shocked that the electorate did not want to hear more of Rita Harrold's "Socialist Feminist voice"

I am so glad the people of cabra glasnevin had no interest in her claptrap. ‘Ist’ pigeonhole politics worked in 2011 when the country was in the toilet , but now labeling yourself in a generic left agenda doesn't get you automatic support.

Seth Brundle

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Who ?

(Megaphone turned on)
RITA HARROLD!
(Megaphone turned off)

Eric Cartman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Things are moving very fast for her the last couple of weeks. She shouldn't have had said that about a potential coalition government, even if she believes it. There's potentially a place for a firebrand independent MEP who offers an uncompromising voice on Green issues during the coming decade, where Green issues are likely to dominate political agendas at all levels. So I wouldn't be using "irrelevant" just yet.

She's going to have to learn on the job though in terms of playing the game.

She would have made a good media friendly resource on green issues and helped a FF/FG green coalition but she just wanted a left agenda but not to jump in the deep letter party end, she’ll jump to the social democrats if a coalition in a GE was ever on the table

eagle eye

Eric Cartman wrote:

She would have made a good media friendly resource on green issues and helped a FF/FG green coalition but she just wanted a left agenda but not to jump in the deep letter party end, she’ll jump to the social democrats if a coalition in a GE was ever on the table

I have a big issue with anybody changing party during their term. You got voted in as a representative whether that be a party or as an independent. If you decide to change your political alignment I think you should have to resign and a by-election should happen.

jos28

Does anyone know what the position is with By Elections. Am I right in thinking that Barry Andrews and Clare Daly's (if successful) Dáil seats will be up for grabs. When will the by elections be held and would they all be on the same day?

Christy42

eagle eye wrote: »

I have a big issue with anybody changing party during their term. You got voted in as a representative whether that be a party or as an independent. If you decide to change your political alignment I think you should have to resign and a by-election should happen.

What if you feel your party has changed political alignment? I mean I agree with you to an extent but changing parties does not always mean changing what you campaigned on if the party changed tactics.

Some have suggested that sinn Fein go more anti immigrant. Should that cause by-elections? Should someone leaving the party over it (as they may have campaigned on a pro immigration ticket while in sinn Fein before) cause a vote?

Itssoeasy

jos28 wrote: »

Does anyone know what the position is with By Elections. Am I right in thinking that Barry Andrews and Clare Daly's (if successful) Dáil seats will be up for grabs. When will the by elections be held and would they all be on the same day?

It has to be held within six months but if Clare daly is the last seat in Dublin then that might complicate things given that seat will be held up until(possibly even if)the UK leave the EU.

jos28

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It has to be held within six months but if Clare daly is the last seat in Dublin then that might complicate things given that seat will be held up until(possibly even if)the UK leave the EU.

Cheers, nothing certain for whoever gets that seat so.

mickmackmcgoo

Reading through some stuff on Twitter from commentators at the count for Midlands north west it seems McHugh from the greens is far from certain of a seat and will be battling with Carty for last seat and some saying she in fact won't get elected .

Thrashssacre

couple of results seem to have been leaked according to Europe elects also turnout in Italy seems up in the north and down in the south which would be good for the lega nord and bad for the five star movement.

Squatter

jos28 wrote: »

Does anyone know what the position is with By Elections. Am I right in thinking that Barry Andrews and Clare Daly's (if successful) Dáil seats will be up for grabs. When will the by elections be held and would they all be on the same day?

Barry Andrews hasn't been a TD since 2011!

is_that_so

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

Reading through some stuff on Twitter from commentators at the count for Midlands north west it seems McHugh from the greens is far from certain of a seat and will be battling with Carty for last seat and some saying she in fact won't get elected .

Need a completed first count to see what's happening. Wild rumours for now off the back of an exit poll. 4-5 for three seats is about all you can say.

mickmackmcgoo

is_that_so wrote:

Need a completed first count to see what's happening. Wild rumours for now off the back of an exit poll. 4-5 for three seats is about all you can say.

Yeah need to see actual count. Interesting Matt Carty said he expects to get 2% less than exit poll prediction

jos28

Squatter wrote: »

Barry Andrews hasn't been a TD since 2011!

Damn you Wikipedia, googled his name and Barry Andrews TD was the first thing I spotted.
I'm off to sit in the Dunce's corner for the afternoon :o:o

Itssoeasy

is_that_so wrote: »

Need a completed first count to see what's happening. Wild rumours for now off the back of an exit poll. 4-5 for three seats is about all you can say.

This no results until 10pm is leading to wild rumours. And given the size of the constituencies a tally from one area should have huge health warnings with them.

is_that_so

Itssoeasy wrote: »

This no results until 10pm is leading to wild rumours. And given the size of the constituencies a tally from one area should have huge health warnings with them.

I think early tomorrow for MNW is being talked about but otherwise I agree.

Squatter

Itssoeasy wrote: »

This no results until 10pm is leading to wild rumours. And given the size of the constituencies a tally from one area should have huge health warnings with them.

Never mind 10 pm, it appears that we won't have results until tomorrow - and maybe later in the case of Ireland South.

Where are those e-voting machines when we need them!

Itssoeasy

is_that_so wrote: »

I think early tomorrow for MNW is being talked about but otherwise I agree.

I've seen the middle of next week for MNW.

is_that_so

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I've seen the middle of next week for MNW.

To finish yes possibly. I'm talking about the first count.

Itssoeasy

Squatter wrote: »

Never mind 10 pm, it appears that we won't have results until tomorrow - and maybe later in the case of Ireland South.

Where are those e-voting machines when we need them!

Are those e voting machines still collecting dust ? I think a happy medium could be found between keeping the paper voting system we have now but making the counting far more efficient.

Seamai

Heard both the chief counting officer in Cork and Paschal "Drama Queen" Sheehy making a big song and dance about the problems presented by the " 2 Foot plus long ballot paper" and it might be mid week before we have full results for Ireland South, what a bloody joke in this day and age, I know people have issues with e voting but there's also resistance out there from those who get a hard on at the prospect of a count stretched over several days.

L1011

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Are those e voting machines still collecting dust ? I think a happy medium could be found between keeping the paper voting system we have now but making the counting far more efficient.

Scrapped and as many of the FF mates storage contracts were killed early as possible

is_that_so

Seamai wrote: »

Heard both the chief counting officer in Cork and Paschal "Drama Queen" Sheehy making a big song and dance about the problems presented by the " 2 Foot plus long ballot paper" and it might be mid week before we have full results for Ireland South, what a bloody joke in this day and age, I know people have issues with e voting but there's also resistance out there from those who get a hard on at the prospect of a count stretched over several days.

That could go on forever! At least the other two should produce one fairly quickly and then knock out a big chunk of votes!