European Parliament Elections 2019

Gael23

robman60 wrote: »

t, but the Wexford factor could see Byrne get trannsfers from Doyle. .

Doyles vote will stay with Fine Gael

golfball37

8 counts and Sean Kelly still isn't elected.

L1011

I would have thought Mahapatra's vote would go back to FF, but very little has from the two candidates eliminated at once.

Eric Cartman

L1011 wrote: »

I would have thought Mahapatra's vote would go back to FF, but very little has from the two candidates eliminated at once.

surprising mchugh and healy aimes gained the most from it.

Inquitus

Looks like the Top 4 get in here no? Can't see those gaps being bridged, can anyone else? imbeb not working from imgur for some reason

https://imgur.com/yAp03uM

is_that_so

Eric Cartman wrote: »

surprising mchugh and healy aimes gained the most from it.

It's just crumbs. Walsh, as Ming's team suggested, is picking up votes at a higher rate than Casey.

is_that_so

Inquitus wrote: »

Looks like the Top 4 get in here no? Can't see those gaps being bridged, can anyone else?

No that should be it done and dusted. The only question is how long it will all take. Thursday not looking hopeful at this rate!

cruizer101

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

FF looking for an enquiry into RTE poll:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/fianna-f%C3%A1il-td-calls-for-inquiry-into-rt%C3%A9-tg4-exit-poll-1.3906105

I'm sure RTE and Red C will be looking into why they got it wrong and its not ideal but calling for a inquiry is a bit much, at the end of the day it was still just a poll.

Gael23

Sean Kelly elected

L1011

This next set of transfers in South will be fun for seeing what completely unexpected people get some of them.

James Brown

Looking good for Clare Daly. We need less FF bred career politicians like Andrews.

Sonny noggs

irishash wrote: »

Is she any worse?

Did Maria Walsh defraud Revenue and profit from it?

I’m betting she didn't collect employee pension contributions and not forward them to the pension fund... can Mick Wallace say the same? (No, he can’t)

VinLieger

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Looking good for Clare Daly. We need less FF bred career politicians like Andrews.

I was happy to hear she had beat out andrews, then I saw her wearing that stupid assange shirt and remembered she can be a bit of an idealist fool

irishash

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Looking good for Clare Daly. We need less FF bred career politicians like Andrews.

What I don't like is her t-shirt today - 'Free Assange"

Assange is in jail because he skipped bail and refused to surrender to a UK court - he is not currently in jail because of any extradition proceedings against him.

So she wants Assange released for refusing to obey the law while she herself is a lawmaker in this country.

James Brown

I'd take her over the likes of Andrews any day.

micosoft

RandomName2 wrote: »

I'm wondering if the

'Majority in favor of a united Ireland' exit poll is as inaccurate?

My critique of that awful poll was very Yes Minister.

Questions like "90% of voters feel that the Government needs to prioritise climate change more"
Who could deny that? But if it was phrased:
"Do you want to prioritise climate change if it means 20c on a litre of fuel, €150 on a tank of heating oil, €45 on top of a flight, reduction in national herd" how exactly would people vote? Might change the figures drastically.

brooke 2

cruizer101 wrote: »

I'm sure RTE and Red C will be looking into why they got it wrong and its not ideal but calling for a inquiry is a bit much, at the end of the day it was still just a poll.

Who really cares??? The media and pols in their own bubble, that's all!!

James Brown

micosoft wrote: »

My critique of that awful poll was very Yes Minister.

Questions like "90% of voters feel that the Government needs to prioritise climate change more"
Who could deny that? But if it was phrased:
"Do you want to prioritise climate change if it means 20c on a litre of fuel, €150 on a tank of heating oil, €45 on top of a flight, reduction in national herd" how exactly would people vote? Might change the figures drastically.

That's a cynical wording though, very Yes Minister in itself.
You can only be very general with such questions because we don't know what form prioritising may take. It could just as easily be grants for solar power installation etc. TBF it will likely be FG charging taxes to spend on god knows in the name of the environment, (see Siteserv sweet deal).

Annabella1

So sending VAT Wallace Clare Daly and Ming Flanagan to Europe

Result...

LuckyLloyd

Quite the political coup by Wallace and Daly. I think Daly in particular is a massive loss to politics in this country. She's been an exceptional parliamentarian willing to stand in the wilderness on issues like Gardai corruption and female bodily autonomy well before the stampede came to join her. I don't think she will achieve near the same impact in Brussels, but I completely understand the reasons why she would look for an essential promotion.

Donald Trump

Daly is an embarrassing whingebag to be sending over to represent us in the EU. She constantly rebrands socialist/independent/AAA/I4C herself a-la Farage and his UKIP->Brexit shennaigans in order to allow her supporters cognative dissonance to imagine that each time is new "rebellion of the people" if pointed out that she has achieved very little in all her time in politics.

And as for Wallace talking about how he will continue to be a thorn in the side of the Irish government if he goes to Europe, ffs, asking for a job to represent us in the EU and then saying he is going to instead use that position to target Ireland is beyond stupidity.

Populist pair of chancers. ut if that's what people want, that is what they are entitled to get.

At least Ming the Merciless has a little bit of cop of on

LuckyLloyd

I also think it's surprising FF lost the procedural battle in the count centre. Allied to standing two candidates in Midlands / NW, they don't seem to be as sharp in the campaign strategy and management side of things as you'd expect. Daly and Wallace obviously have surrounded themselves with people very able at the boots on the ground stuff.

golfball37

Donald Trump wrote: »

Daly is an embarrassing whingebag to be sending over to represent us in the EU. She constantly rebrands socialist/independent/AAA/I4C herself a-la Farage and his UKIP->Brexit shennaigans in order to allow her supporters cognative dissonance to imagine that each time is new "rebellion of the people" if pointed out that she has achieved very little in all her time in politics.

And as for Wallace talking about how he will continue to be a thorn in the side of the Irish government if he goes to Europe, ffs, asking for a job to represent us in the EU and then saying he is going to instead use that position to target Ireland is beyond stupidity.

Populist pair of chancers. ut if that's what people want, that is what they are entitled to get.

At least Ming the Merciless has a little bit of cop of on

Like them or loath them [ and I think I can guess where you stand] its not fair to say they haven't achieved anything in Politics. The NAMA work by Wallace and both their work on exposing Gardaí corruption did the state an invaluable service. None of the establishment parties would touch these issues.

James Brown

Annabella1 wrote: »

So sending VAT Wallace Clare Daly and Ming Flanagan to Europe

Result...

Daly will be missed at home.
Nice retirement for the incompetent Fitzgerald.

An Ciarraioch

Donald Trump wrote: »

Daly is an embarrassing whingebag to be sending over to represent us in the EU. She constantly rebrands socialist/independent/AAA/I4C herself a-la Farage and his UKIP->Brexit shennaigans in order to allow her supporters cognative dissonance to imagine that each time is new "rebellion of the people" if pointed out that she has achieved very little in all her time in politics.

And as for Wallace talking about how he will continue to be a thorn in the side of the Irish government if he goes to Europe, ffs, asking for a job to represent us in the EU and then saying he is going to instead use that position to target Ireland is beyond stupidity.

Populist pair of chancers. ut if that's what people want, that is what they are entitled to get.

At least Ming the Merciless has a little bit of cop of on

Except MEPs aren't supposed to be elected to represent the view of national governments, but those of the broader political grouping they will join in Strasbourg. Wallace was open that he would join GUE/NGL if elected, which takes a critical view in relation to tax reform, among other things, so it was up to voters to reject him if they didn't agree with that.

Donald Trump

golfball37 wrote: »

Like them or loath them [ and I think I can guess where you stand] its not fair to say they haven't achieved anything in Politics. The NAMA work by Wallace and both their work on exposing Gardaí corruption did the state an invaluable service. None of the establishment parties would touch these issues.

Wallace's main contribution to NAMA was the heap of properties and debt he used to have that they bailed him out over

FrancieBrady

What's the word on Dublin...are we for the High Court?

normanoffside

Ni Riada is still transferring very well in the south.
Is there a good chance she will stay ahead of O'Sullivan?

VinLieger

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What's the word on Dublin...are we for the High Court?

Nope its official Daly gets 3rd seat and Andrews sits in cold storage until Brexit

Also apparently we will have results from MNW count 7 quite soon, really wanna see how transfers look there

Chips Lovell

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