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How the hell did this get planning?

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    #62
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    mickdw wrote: »
    I'd suggest you had cowboy builder as no matter what roof system you used, it shouldn't be leaking when new.

    He is back trying to fix it.


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    #63
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,994 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    godtabh wrote: »
    my new one is leaking!
    robp wrote: »
    I think some cases flat rooves are harder to maintain. I don't feel Irish architects value performance much.


    I was visiting an office building in the IFSC this week, maybe 8 years old - they had towels on the floor to soak up the leaks coming in through the fancy full-height windows in the heavy rain.


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    #64
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,357 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    I was visiting an office building in the IFSC this week, maybe 8 years old - they had towels on the floor to soak up the leaks coming in through the fancy full-height windows in the heavy rain.

    Some of these window systems are notorious for leaks and very hard to cure if it's a weakness in the design.
    Thats a very different thing to a domestic flat roof.


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    #65
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,994 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    mickdw wrote: »
    Some of these window systems are notorious for leaks and very hard to cure if it's a weakness in the design.
    Thats a very different thing to a domestic flat roof.
    Indeed, completely different to a domestic build.


    I presume it's a very difficult situation for a commercial build owner. The building has changed hands since it was built, so the present owner would have no connection to the original developer or builder. The cost of investigating and possible rectification would be huge. The problem only arises in extreme weather, so the impact is limited.



    Fairly shoddy practice by the original designer / developer / approver.


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    #66
    riclad
    Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    There should be a rule re building in a row of old house,s ,
    the windows should line up with the existing windows, at the front.
    Traditional style bricks should be used ,the new roof should be in line with the neighbours roof, with similar style of roof .
    Maybe the planners have no choice, if the house is not in a certain area,
    the cant refuse it as long as it complys with building reg,s .
    The new house looks ugly ,it actually could reduce the value of
    the other house,s on that street.
    Maybe there should be new planning rules ,
    if area,s where the house is more than 30 years old, new house fronts
    should be built to blend in ,re window design, size, old style bricks should be used.
    I have no problem if they wanted to design the house at the back to be
    modern with large windows and a flat roof .
    As long as the front of the house is similar to its neighbours.
    Also the colour of the brick should be similar to the other house,s
    in the street.
    If someone wants to build a ultra modern house let them build on
    a site ,thats not in the middle of a street .


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    #67
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Architects in this country get away with murder.

    The Dublin Airport cap is damaging the economy of Ireland as a whole, and must be scrapped forthwith.



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    #68
    riclad
    Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    IF you pay someone 1000,s you can get someone to design or build anything,
    The point is the planning board should have rejected this house outright
    or said it must be changed to blend into the environment its in,
    for instance if you build in certain area,s the doors and windows
    have to be of a certain size and shape to blend into the buildings
    nearby.
    Architects have bills to pay ,most architects cannot afford to turn down
    a high paying client because the building is slightly ugly .


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    #69
    Roger Mellie Man on the Telly
    Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭Roger Mellie Man on the Telly


    What planning qualifications do you hold, riclad?


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    #70
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    riclad wrote: »
    There should be a rule re building in a row of old house,s ,
    the windows should line up with the existing windows, at the front.
    Traditional style bricks should be used ,the new roof should be in line with the neighbours roof, with similar style of roof .
    Maybe the planners have no choice, if the house is not in a certain area,
    the cant refuse it as long as it complys with building reg,s .
    The new house looks ugly ,it actually could reduce the value of
    the other house,s on that street.
    Maybe there should be new planning rules ,
    if area,s where the house is more than 30 years old, new house fronts
    should be built to blend in ,re window design, size, old style bricks should be used.
    I have no problem if they wanted to design the house at the back to be
    modern with large windows and a flat roof .
    As long as the front of the house is similar to its neighbours.
    Also the colour of the brick should be similar to the other house,s
    in the street.
    If someone wants to build a ultra modern house let them build on
    a site ,thats not in the middle of a street .

    Why to basically everything you said.


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    #71
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,300 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    riclad wrote: »
    There should be a rule re building in a row of old house,s ,
    I believe the old rule was akin to demolishing all the old houses, and building a row of new houses. Entire sections were wiped out because of this!
    riclad wrote: »
    the windows should line up with the existing windows, at the front.
    And should all doors be the same bland colour and shape?
    riclad wrote: »
    Traditional style bricks should be used ,the new roof should be in line with the neighbours roof, with similar style of roof .
    No. I think you have OCD, and this is upsetting you?
    riclad wrote: »
    Maybe the planners have no choice, if the house is not in a certain area,
    the cant refuse it as long as it complys with building reg,s .
    Wut?
    riclad wrote: »
    The new house looks ugly ,it actually could reduce the value of
    the other house,s on that street.
    I'd say it'll get more than the other houses on the street of the same size.
    riclad wrote: »
    if area,s where the house is more than 30 years old, new house fronts
    should be built to blend in ,re window design, size, old style bricks should be used.
    I have no problem if they wanted to design the house at the back to be
    modern with large windows and a flat roof .
    So you want the bland look, as opposed to there being anything wrong with it?
    riclad wrote: »
    As long as the front of the house is similar to its neighbours.
    Also the colour of the brick should be similar to the other house,s
    in the street.
    But why?
    riclad wrote: »
    If someone wants to build a ultra modern house let them build on
    a site ,thats not in the middle of a street .
    Actually, the house is on the side of the street... :pac:

    =-=

    Why are most of your spaces double spaces?


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