John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Adamcp898

She was employed in some sort of legal capacity afaik, perhaps compliance. Reason enough to want her out as well tbh given that she'll have presumably been aware of the how the FAI was run in such a role.

yabadabado

yabadabado wrote: »

If she was an FAI employee at the time then surely they can't use that she is a solicitor as a reason ?
She wasnt the FAI solicitor afaik.

I think, to be careful, a Solicitor who is a member of a board or group and who is asked for advice should preface any advice by stating that it is given in his or her capacity as a Solicitor. I think most Solicitors who have been around the block would. Always assume that any document will end up in front of a Judge and you can't go far wrong.

shanec1928

Good to see the progress being made with transparency at fai hq

Arghus

Gael85 wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4074458/fai-john-delaney-loyalty-package-golden-handcuffs-2million-deal/

I'm amazed how much this story has gone so much under the radar.
It's as brazen and shameless as anything we've heard so far.

Just An Opinion

Arghus wrote: »

I'm amazed how much this story has gone so much under the radar.
It's as brazen and shameless as anything we've heard so far.

This greedy pr!ck will take his off the charts brazenness and shameless self serving disgusting agenda in whatever direction it needs to go in order to line his own pockets. Absolutely nothing will surprise me with what comes out about him from here on, he’s an utter disgrace!

asteroids over berlin

surely the organisation has to be investigated for corruption and illegal codporate activities with charges brought against guilty individuals

Irishmale0399

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1126888097071890432

Sport Ireland have appointed KOSI, a Northern Irish firm of accountants, to carry out "an extensive independent audit of the Football Association of Ireland"

All the auditors will be tripping over each other and it will only make things harder as documents will be all over the place. Very easy for the FAI to say auditor X had it so we couldnt present it!!

johnnyryan89

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1126888097071890432

Sport Ireland have appointed KOSI, a Northern Irish firm of accountants, to carry out "an extensive independent audit of the Football Association of Ireland"

All the auditors will be tripping over each other and it will only make things harder as documents will be all over the place. Very easy for the FAI to say auditor X had it so we couldnt present it!!

Just send Maxi back down with a circle k fuel and let him finish off what he once started, then we can start afresh with a new football association.

Irishmale0399

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/delaney-used-henry-handball-payment-to-argue-for-2m-exit-deal-38097498.html

And it continues......

Irishmale0399

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Just send Maxi back down with a circle k fuel and let him finish off what he once started, then we can start afresh with a new football association.

Say what you want about Maxi......mad as a hatter but a hell of a nice man with his heart in the right place.



Maybe a few other LOI and junior clubs should come out and publically question the FAI, silence has been unreal from certain areas of the game. Add to that a few more fans asking SI and the FAI questions publically on social media.......social media is the new fuel.

uptherebels

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/delaney-used-henry-handball-payment-to-argue-for-2m-exit-deal-38097498.html

And it continues......

Wait, he got an improved contract in part for getting a loan for the FAI?

Irishmale0399

uptherebels wrote: »

Wait, he got an improved contract in part for getting a loan for the FAI?

No for getting the €5million silence money from Blatter for Henrys handball.....so the FAI really only got 3...

OldMrBrennan83

In fairness, you'd near have to tip the cap to him at this stage.

Irishmale0399

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

In fairness, you'd near have to tip the cap to him at this stage.

Looks like he was signing contracts with himself. Sure no one else was keeping an eye on him. Board never seem to know anything about anything.


JD and his imaginary mate JD junior.....FAIs leadership.

In the history of Irish law, it's hard to think of a case that has backfired as spectacularly as John Delaney's move to injunct a back page story. It's led to uncovering the whole rotten mess of the FAI, an organisation that is now synonymous with greed and incompetence. It must be the finest example of the Barbra Streisand effect we've seen here.

It's been appalling and compelling, like watching the slowest car crash ever. Just week after week of new jaw dropping allegations that's now moving into the third month. If they sat down and thought of a way to ensure the whole ****show would be exposed to the public, they could not have done a better job. It's the most FAI like thing the FAI has done.

secman

What is Rea Walsh trying to hide, has she learned nothing ftom Sepp Delaney mistakes, personally i think her position is becoming untenable, she was after all on the "Governance committee " which appears to have behaved like the famous 3 monkeys " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil".
Delaney is certainly untouchable now, no employer would touch him with a barge pole, you would think.

yabadabado

secman wrote: »

What is Rea Walsh trying to hide, has she learned nothing ftom Sepp Delaney mistakes, personally i think her position is becoming untenable, she was after all on the "Governance committee " which appears to have behaved like the famous 3 monkeys " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil".
Delaney is certainly untouchable now, no employer would touch him with a barge pole, you would think.

Anyone who was around in the lead up to the 100k loan/failed injunction has no place in the "new" FAI .Rea Walshe and everyone else who let JD run the association as his fiefdom should never hold a position in the FAI again.


Makes no difference to JD if hes unemployable, he has enough money to live the good life for the rest of his days.

If life is getting you down just think. On this day 8 weeks ago John Delaney was sitting down with his legal team, hopeful...maybe even confident...of getting another story buried.

Thank you Mark Tighe, thank you Mr. Justice Barr.

Irishmale0399

secman wrote: »

What is Rea Walsh trying to hide, has she learned nothing ftom Sepp Delaney mistakes, personally i think her position is becoming untenable, she was after all on the "Governance committee " which appears to have behaved like the famous 3 monkeys " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil".
Delaney is certainly untouchable now, no employer would touch him with a barge pole, you would think.

Rea Walsh I said here a few days ago was doing a good job and aiding the transformation.........the question is why....
She is a lawyer...was placed in her position by JD himself. Looks like she was his internal legal advisor. If she really wants to save her own skin it may be a case that SI said...help us and we wont go to the law society etc. Would assume she has no option but to play the game and if I am honest she seems to be a yes woman.


As for Delany....he has shares in many companies. He will land on his feet as other individuals will say....fair ****s you got away with it for so long.

Zebra3

sugarman wrote: »

So true, it was his ego that got in the way. Had he not sought the injunction it really would have been another forgotten backpage story by now. The initial €100k loan was a bit of a nothing story, it's only when they began to dig deeper they began to find some hard evidence of corruption, incompetence, greed etc.. and we're still only at the tip of the iceberg.

The €100k was a serious issue.

Money he claims he loaned the FAI that doesn't seem to have been put through the books.

He needed to bury that story.

yabadabado

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Rea Walsh I said here a few days ago was doing a good job and aiding the transformation.........the question is why....
She is a lawyer...was placed in her position by JD himself. Looks like she was his internal legal advisor. If she really wants to save her own skin it may be a case that SI said...help us and we wont go to the law society etc. Would assume she has no option but to play the game and if I am honest she seems to be a yes woman.


As for Delany....he has shares in many companies. He will land on his feet as other individuals will say....fair ****s you got away with it for so long.

Rea Walsh should be nowhere near the transformation or on any governance review.
My only hope is she has to aid SI now and will be made walk away when all the board are ****ed out.

CatFromHue

The head of the cricket association had to put money into it recently. When asked about it he told the truth and he came out looking like someone who really cared for his association.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ceo-gave-cricket-ireland-100000-loan-at-stressful-time-38037471.html

Can you imagine that???

yabadabado

CatFromHue wrote: »

The head of the cricket association had to put money into it recently. When asked about it he told the truth and he came out looking like someone who really cared for his association.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ceo-gave-cricket-ireland-100000-loan-at-stressful-time-38037471.html

Can you imagine that???

Yeah CI went about their business in the correct manner,imagine all the board members actually knew about loan and they even tried to get money from the banks first :eek:

expectationlost

Deleted User wrote: »

In the history of Irish law, it's hard to think of a case that has backfired as spectacularly as John Delaney's move to injunct a back page story. It's led to uncovering the whole rotten mess of the FAI, an organisation that is now synonymous with greed and incompetence. It must be the finest example of the Barbra Streisand effect we've seen here.

no it didn't, clearly Mark Tighe had the docs already from a leaker, it didn't lead to anything, Delaney just couldn't prevent the story being released, it was never a back page story Mark Tighe isn't a back page reporter.

expectationlost

yabadabado wrote: »

Yeah CI went about their business in the correct manner,imagine all the board members actually knew about loan and they even tried to get money from the banks first :eek:

but they didn't know

The board of Cricket Ireland was not informed of the loan until recently, after details of John Delaney's controversial loan of €100,000 to the FAI became known.

expectationlost

sugarman wrote: »

So true, it was his ego that got in the way. Had he not sought the injunction it really would have been another forgotten backpage story by now. The initial €100k loan was a bit of a nothing story, it's only when they began to dig deeper they began to find some hard evidence of corruption, incompetence, greed etc.. and we're still only at the tip of the iceberg.

the 100k loan was not a nothing story, it showed a breach of Sports Ireland rules which FAI admitted, again Mark Tighe isn't a back page reporter.

yabadabado

expectationlost wrote: »

but they didn't know

You're right.Dunno what I was thinking.

Was it discussed with SI ?


Either way there seems there was a legitimate reason for it and they did things correctly?

kippy

Major differences between both the CI and FAI scenarios though.

expectationlost

yabadabado wrote: »

You're right.Dunno what I was thinking.

Was it discussed with SI ?


Either way there seems there was a legitimate reason for it and they did things correctly?

yes it was discussed with the SI (who didn't think he should do it) but atleast they were told but his whole board wasn't informed until the Delaney story broke.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/revealed-second-ceo-gave-100k-loan-to-irish-sports-association-38035346.html

Chancer3001

Ford announce they are pulling their sponsorship of the FAI after 13 years.

Anyone see Chancer? It seems like Ford didn't get his letter.

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Has anyome contacted sponsors to show how happy they are with delaney?

Is there a template? (Ima too astoopid to write a email bya myselfs)

Hopefully it includes "john delaney is class and any product he endorses, whatever it costs, myself and my extended family will buy 10,000 each."

Maybe if we buy ****loads of sponsors stuff theyll stick by delaneys side

Nesta99

Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall today!
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-council-s-meeting-overshadows-fifa-visit-to-dublin-1.3892432

shanec1928

https://www.the42.ie/siptu-fai-4635786-May2019/

amcalester

shanec1928 wrote: »

https://www.the42.ie/siptu-fai-4635786-May2019/

Quick set up a friendly with Oman.

Irishmale0399

https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/paul-cooke-appointed-to-fai-board-sub-committee

Is he any better than the others?? Former CEO of JDs beloved Waterford Utd. and a chartered accountant. Sounds to me without any further info to be an attempt to get JDs mates into positions to soften the fall and take him out of the press.

Update:

Just had a quick readup on Paul Cooke there....seems he is anti JD and JDs FAI for a number of years now, last dealings I had with him were at a table with JD together during their Waterford days and they were definately mates looking for the same thing that day. Lets hope he is in it for the right reasons and doesnt try to sweep things under the carpet.

yabadabado

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/paul-cooke-appointed-to-fai-board-sub-committee

Is he any better than the others?? Former CEO of JDs beloved Waterford Utd. and a chartered accountant. Sounds to me without any further info to be an attempt to get JDs mates into positions to soften the fall and take him out of the press.

They couldn't be further from mates.Probably should have a look into it before posting that .

johnnyryan89

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1128790009245503488

From debt free by 2020 to being bailed out by UEFA

kippy

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1128790009245503488

From debt free by 2020 to being bailed out by UEFA

The books need serious analysis.....

Cienciano

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1128790009245503488

From debt free by 2020 to being bailed out by UEFA

Anyone involved in football in Ireland who supported Delaney throughout this are a disgrace. All he did in his years as CEO was milk as much money out of irish soccer as he could.
€700k a year when you include his "loyalty bonus", 3k a month rent, car and driver, company credit card which was used as his personal credit card, crazy expenses for first class flights and 5star hotels on trips abroad, money to his girlfriend, handy numbers and expenses for the board to keep them sweet. All defended because he'd get his driver to bring him up to Donegal to present a €3k novelty cheque (which was his fúcking job) so they'll defend him. People are idiots.

Necro

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone involved in football in Ireland who supported Delaney throughout this are a disgrace. All he did in his years as CEO was milk as much money out of irish soccer as he could.
€700k a year when you include his "loyalty bonus", 3k a month rent, car and driver, company credit card which was used as his personal credit card, crazy expenses for first class flights and 5star hotels on trips abroad, money to his girlfriend, handy numbers and expenses for the board to keep them sweet. All defended because he'd get his driver to go up to Donegal to present a €3k novelty cheque (which was his fúcking job) so they'll defend him. People are idiots.

Tbf, the supporters (on this thread anyways) have long since ran away with their tails between their legs. I'd love to know what they had to say after all of this though...

Cienciano

Necro wrote: »

Tbf, the supporters (on this thread anyways) have long since ran away with their tails between their legs. I'd love to know what they had to say after all of this though...

I think they were trolling, and even trolling they can't support this shít. A 5 day trip abroad for Delaney would probably cover new changing rooms for a team. So annoying when you see the money taken out of football to fund his lifestyle. The womens national team don't even own their own fúcking tracksuits but Delaney can give his girlfriend €60k or withdraw €1k in cash a month on the company credit card while he's already expensing literally everything.
I think a lot of fans, especially League of Ireland fans knew he was bad, but not this bad. The idiots who thought he was a great lad cos he handed out cans of Carlsberg on a train should be banned from ever attending an Ireland game.

yabadabado

The idiots who took a free can or two ,got selfies wtc weren't the problem, it's the people on the board/leagues who backed him to a hilt and still are in his corner .
Those are the people who should hang their heads in shame although most ould only hang their heads into the trough.


Hopefully this whole episode makes sure there is a line drawn in the sand and the likes of this can never happen again.Proper guidelines and strict governance going forward with all the old guard turned out of Irish football.

Nesta99

While its probably unlikely I really hope they dig up enough to warrant a criminal investigation agaisnt JD. That the golden handcuffs and his contract was illegal due to not being properly signed off by the board and will become null and void. That his seat on UEFA will be revoked particularly because they want to distance themselves from this type of character and PR mess. Lets hope his arrogance means he fights to the bitter end and loses everything rather than tucking his tail between his legs and walking away with a hefty penson never mind €2mil. The sort of money he has squandered one way or another, between his personal slush funds, that of his cronies, and buying support by bandying about 5k checks could easily run to north of 10mil over 14-16 years. Its not impossible that he is responsible for unnecessary costs of 1mil per year as CEO even if there was nothing 'illegal' involved....Aviva debt sorted...

Umaro

Cienciano wrote: »

All defended because he'd get his driver to bring him up to Donegal to present a €3k novelty cheque (which was his fúcking job) so they'll defend him. People are idiots.

That wasn't even his job! He should never have been driving around the country handing out cheques - this whole thing is so insane and I'm delighted its all falling down. About 10 years too late though.

Cienciano

Umaro wrote: »

That wasn't even his job! He should never have been driving around the country handing out cheques - this whole thing is so insane and I'm delighted its all falling down. About 10 years too late though.

I meant allocating money was his job. He hand delivered it just so idiots would think it was John personally looking after them.

Deise Vu

Cienciano wrote: »

I meant allocating money was his job. He hand delivered it just so idiots would think it was John personally looking after them.

Exactly. I thought the brass neck had changed to titanaium when JD looked for sympathy for by claiming he was doing three jobs: his EUFA junket, CEO of the FAI and "going around the country every week visiting clubs" (his words).

Cienciano

Deise Vu wrote: »

Exactly. I thought the brass neck had changed to titanaium when JD looked for sympathy for by claiming he was doing three jobs: his EUFA junket, CEO of the FAI and "going around the country every week visiting clubs" (his words).

Some clubs bought it, thinking John Delaney was a legend because he "even drove up to deliver the cheque". Not thinking "why would CEO on €700k a year be doing such a menial task?". But like Sean Quinn, Charlie Haughey, Bertie and a long list of crooks, they'll always have their supporters.

secman

Sepp Delaney always claimed he was doing a stellar job for Irish Football, now we are being bailed out by UEFA, hopefully all those cretins that backed him and left him there are thoroughly ashamed of their contribution to Irish Football.

Ferris_Bueller

Is anyone able to summarize what is happening at the minute and over the last week or two? I paid such a close interest initially and sat down to watch oireachtas tv I think three Wednesdays in a row, but it is dragging on so long and there seems to be nothing happening in terms of Delaney leaving/new board announcements (probably exactly what Delaney wants, drag it out and the public lose interest).

dundalkfc10

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Is anyone able to summarize what is happening at the minute and over the last week or two? I paid such a close interest initially and sat down to watch oireachtas tv I think three Wednesdays in a row, but it is dragging on so long and there seems to be nothing happening in terms of Delaney leaving/new board announcements (probably exactly what Delaney wants, drag it out and the public lose interest).

Has got paid near €100,000 since he went on Gardening Leave! Sickeneing

Zebra3

Why doesn’t Delaney just leave and take one of those million euro a year jobs he was always turning down?