American killed by tribe in India

Sonics2k

jimgoose wrote: »

I agree. But getting killed like that as a young man is unfortunate.

I take no pleasure in this guys death.

BUT, he knew full well exactly what would happen when he went there. This was a pointless death that only happened due to his delusion that God would save him or some nonsense.

This tribe has a long history of killing invaders to their land.

everlast75

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

"Dont go to the island they will kill you"



*goes to the island*



I'm shocked. Shocked they killed him.......if only there was some warning....

Or to put it in meme form...

liamoreilly

...As sad as it is to hear of someone being killed, I think he was pretty sure eventually it was going to be the outcome...He was warned not to go there, he went and got attacked but got away...He then wrote almost a goodbye letter before returning to the island a 2nd time...If someome comes into your house you would use reasonable force to defend yourself, and if you feel like your life and the lives of your whole family are in danger you will do whatever is necessary to defend them...
...I also don't think the guy went there really believing he would achieve much (unless he was totally deluded)... If some person came to me and start speaking in a language I've never heard of, showing a piece of metal (they likely don't know what a cross is or signifies), I'm hardly gonna sit down and let him explain it to me...He had ample warnings, both verbal and physical, and I'm sure he had done some research or even a Google search of them before going to this specific island... It wasn't murder, just like in world war 1 it wasn't classed as murder, it feels like suicide by proxy and I have sympathy for that aspect, but nothing else...

Timberrrrrrrr

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm not religious but I think this is awful.
Lots of people in here nearly laughing at this.
To you people, please **** off and live on an island.

Erm....most do

Anthonylfc

Sonics2k wrote: »

I take no pleasure in this guys death.

BUT, he knew full well exactly what would happen when he went there. This was a pointless death that only happened due to his delusion that God would save him or some nonsense.

This tribe has a long history of killing invaders to their land.

loads of spears fooked at you is hardly pointless :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Moonjet

Note to self, bring AK47 if planning to visit island.

Deebles McBeebles

Anthonylfc wrote: »

loads of spears fooked at you is hardly pointless :pac::pac::pac::pac:

A bit too pointed if anything.

iguana

TomSweeney wrote: »

Btw, I think he was silly to do what he did, and he should have thought twice, but no one deserves to be killed and body just left on a beach.

He massively endangered them. He could have killed every single person on that island by his presence alone. In fact, seeing as how reports are that they tied up his body, there is a possibility that could still happen. Cadavers pose less risk of contamination than a living person but considering the level of risk an outsider potentially poses there is a degree of risk that the islanders caught something from his body.

This isn't just mindless supposition. Arguably the biggest genocides ever committed on earth were when Europeans landed in the Americas and brought diseases the native population had absolutely no immunity to. Just look at the absolute population collapse in the area we now know as Mexico in the aftermath of contact with European settlers. That man risked the lives of everyone on the island and while the islanders may not understand the nature of the risk he posed, they were 100% correct in perceiving him as a threat and preventing him from achieving contact with the only means at their disposal.

Deebles McBeebles

This is deserving of the thread on the most selfish thing you can do.

Andaman Director of the General Police Dependra Pathak told the News Minute, an Indian news website, he was told that Chau lived in the US state of Alabama and was "some kind of paramedic".

"People thought he is a missionary because he had mentioned his position on God and that he was a believer on social media or somewhere online. But in a strict sense, he was not a missionary.

"He was an adventurer. His intention was to meet the aborigines."

Officials say the islanders have lived in isolation for nearly 60,000 years and therefore have no immunities to common illnesses such as the flu and measles.

Advocacy group Survival International said that by contacting the community, Chau may have passed along pathogens that have the "potential to wipeout the entire tribe" of about 50 to 150 people.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46293221

partyguinness

I think we can all agree he was a bloody clown.

6541

I agree that guy is a clown.

Sam Quentin

If they could just send the tribe leader a WhatsApp message or a quick snap chat and explain that they need to recover the remains for burial... Or if that doesn't suit then they could communicate through FB messenger, it should be a smooth recovery if one of the tribesmen just sent out the GPS coordinates to the helicopter recovery team.

Lady Spangles

As others have undoubtedly said already, the Missionary was acting out of sheer hubris. He claims he "loved" the people of North Sentinel, yet he was more than willing to expose them to diseased they've had no contact with just to preach Jeebus at them for no reason. Arrogance led him there and this is the result. I'm sorry for his family and I'm sorry he died a pretty nasty sounding death. But there's a three mile exclusion zone around that island for a reason.

BTW, check out his diary entries, too. He went there the day before he died and was chased off with arrows. This was clearly a warning; one he chose to ignore.

Article Link

archer22

Its madness to try to recover the body...just endangers the lives of everybody involved.

Smart thing to do is leave it be..which is what I am sure they will do.

weldoninhio

archer22 wrote: »

Its madness to try to recover the body...just endangers the lives of everybody involved.

Smart thing to do is leave it be..which is what I am sure they will do.

He's probably last nights dinner by now anyway.

pjohnson

weldoninhio wrote: »

He's probably last nights dinner by now anyway.

They arent cannibals.

Effects

partyguinness wrote: »

It was an act of self preservation by the natives- who knows what diseases or viruses he may have passed on

I don't think they are too up to date with science or virus prevention.

Effects

pjohnson wrote: »

They arent cannibals.

Does it matter? It's easy to make a joke about tribes people we think are beneath us.

weldoninhio

pjohnson wrote: »

They arent cannibals.

I wasn't sure, but i'm sure he'd make good bait for whatever it is they do eat, unless they're vegan/veggie.

weldoninhio

Effects wrote: »

Does it matter? It's easy to make a joke about tribes people we think are beneath us.

A joke?? He's made of meat. If you are existing off the land without refrigeration etc and a meal lands on the island in front of you you'll probably eat it if needed, like the Uruguayan rugby team did on the Andes.

facehugger99

weldoninhio wrote: »

A joke?? He's made of meat. If you are existing off the land without refrigeration etc and a meal lands on the island in front of you you'll probably eat it if needed, like the Uruguayan rugby team did on the Andes.

Depends who much protein they already have access to.

pjohnson

weldoninhio wrote: »

I wasn't sure, but i'm sure he'd make good bait for whatever it is they do eat, unless they're vegan/veggie.

They fish and are hunter gatherers.

They dont seem to know what to do with meat. When they had pigs dropped off on the island by the Indians they simply speared the pigs and then buried them on the beach as they have with this guy. They use spears for fishing dont believe they use bait.

Edit I think there was also a mirror or something random left with the pigs and they also buried it. They just seem to bury foreign things. They did however happily accept coconuts at one point as that was something they already knew.

Timberrrrrrrr

weldoninhio wrote: »

A joke?? He's made of meat. If you are existing off the land without refrigeration etc and a meal lands on the island in front of you you'll probably eat it if needed, like the Uruguayan rugby team did on the Andes.

The difference being the rugby team were stranded on a snow filled mountain with no sign of food :rolleyes:

Reviews and Books Galore

weldoninhio wrote: »

A joke?? He's made of meat. If you are existing off the land without refrigeration etc and a meal lands on the island in front of you you'll probably eat it if needed, like the Uruguayan rugby team did on the Andes.

I could be wrong, but, not counting starvation, I think most human cultures are anti cannibalism.

Stovepipe

There was a similar case a few years ago when an American missionary brought his family with him, to go to a tribe in New Guinea and bring Christianity to them, whether they wanted it or not. Despite being warned by the police, the army, local citizens and his own family not to do so, the idiot managed to persuade a local man to bring them to the area controlled by the tribe. The local man, who got to the tribal area and would go no further, later told the police that the missionary had walked ahead to greet the tribesmen, who promptly killed him on the spot and then chased the wife and daughter and caught and killed them. The local man heard the screams as he fled......best thing to do? stay away.

Moonjet

Sam Quentin wrote: »

If they could just send the tribe leader a WhatsApp message or a quick snap chat and explain that they need to recover the remains for burial... Or if that doesn't suit then they could communicate through FB messenger, it should be a smooth recovery if one of the tribesmen just sent out the GPS coordinates to the helicopter recovery team.

And if that works and they make contact, maybe offer some bitcoins in return for the body.

Plopsu

weldoninhio wrote: »

A joke?? He's made of meat. If you are existing off the land without refrigeration etc and a meal lands on the island in front of you you'll probably eat it if needed, like the Uruguayan rugby team did on the Andes.

Actually, I read somewhere (today), that they were once given pigs (made of meat) and they simply killed them and buried them.

Standman

BBC: Family forgive tribe who killed American


Thank goodness, I'm sure the tribe were really broken up about it.

Sam Quentin

I know they are kinda old school and stuff.
But could they not just keep ringing the old phone box in the village square until someone answers,then tell them not to be chucking arrows!?

Frank Bullitt

Can't be easy for the family, hearing what happened in his final moments etc.

Its doubtful they will recover his body either going from this:

"We have to take care that we must not disturb them or their habitat by any means. It is a highly sensitive zone and it will take some time,"

This though...

According to extracts of a journal published in the Washington Post, on a previous visit, he had shouted at them: "My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you."

In a last note to his family, he wrote: "You guys might think I'm crazy in all this but I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people.

He really had no clue how out of his depth he was with this. His ignorance cost him his life and his family horrible grief, such a shame.

I take no pleasure in this guys death, I didn't even know him. But these people who think they are on a mission from their god, keep it private lads.

ohnonotgmail

Gintonious wrote: »

Can't be easy for the family, hearing what happened in his final moments etc.

Its doubtful they will recover his body either going from this:


This though...





He really had no clue how out of his depth he was with this. His ignorance cost him his life and his family horrible grief, such a shame.

I take no pleasure in this guys death, I didn't even know him. But these people who think they are on a mission from their god, keep it private lads.

I think the islanders firing arrows at him on his first visit should have given him a clue.

archer22

Oh well, world's most stupidest man meets world's most want to be left alone aggressive tribe and won't take no for an answer.

It had all the ingredients for a happy outcome alright

Frank Bullitt

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I think the islanders firing arrows at him on his first visit should have given him a clue.

The reports say he met some and then they turned hostile, and that they actually don't try to kill you straight off the bat either and use warning shots.

That sort of fits the narrative when you read that they were throwing arrows and spears but he kept walking towards them.

ohnonotgmail

Gintonious wrote: »

The reports say he met some and then they turned hostile, and that they actually don't try to kill you straight off the bat either and use warning shots.

That sort of fits the narrative when you read that they were throwing arrows and spears but he kept walking towards them.

i think the clue is in the name.

archer22

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i think the clue is in the name.

Yeah but in his deluded brain he probably thought Jesus was deflecting the arrows and became even more confident.

Roger Hassenforder

Canonization in 5...4...3...

cdeb

Gintonious wrote: »

According to extracts of a journal published in the Washington Post, on a previous visit, he had shouted at them: "My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you."

Calling out to an uncontacted tribe in English?

Not the sharpest tool in the box was our John unfortunately

Roger Hassenforder

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Canonization in 5...4...3...

They don't have canons - he was arrowised.

Roger Hassenforder

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They don't have canons - he was arrowised.

Maybe canons are the answer.
Usually work on the natives, what.

Odhinn

Reminds me of this

https://www.premier.org.uk/News/World/Man-mauled-by-zoo-lions-after-claiming-God-would-protect-him

archer22

Odhinn wrote: »

Reminds me of this

https://www.premier.org.uk/News/World/Man-mauled-by-zoo-lions-after-claiming-God-would-protect-him

FFS they shot 2 of the Lions to save that cnut!! :mad:

Brendan Bendar

Gintonious wrote: »

Sounds like a nasty enough way to go.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46286215



I hope this isn't true, would be pretty tragic if that was why he was going to the island.

Idiot.

suicide_circus

Richard Hillman wrote: »

These xenophobic and racist islanders need to be educated on diversity and acceptance. It will be interesting to see what their views are on equality, consent and LBGTQIA+ issues?

jmayo

Boom_Bap wrote: »

From what I've read:
- Fishermen took him close to the island.
- He jumped in his Kayak and went the rest of the way
- Got to a certain point and was attacked, lost the kayak
- Swam back to the fishermen and wrote a letter to his parents to say he was going to die and it's grand like because God.
- Swam back to island
- Locals started lacing arrows at him
- He kept approaching and tried to give them a football
- They kept firing
- He went down
- Rope around neck and dragged from the beach

I think he knew what he was doing and signed his own fate.

Maybe they thought he was from Ireland and even they know how shyte our team is.

pjohnson

He might aswell have tried klingon. No one knows there language.

Free Speech

The island is really Elon Musk's secret lair from where he will attempt to take over the world.
The Islanders are henchmen and are a front to keep inquisitive eyes away.
The American was a secret agent and has been disposed of.
James Bond will be along soon to save the day.

tayto lover

partyguinness wrote: »

I think we can all agree he was a bloody clown.

Yeah. They said he tasted funny.

completedit

What's up with these freaks to be honest. How is it their natural reaction to just spear some lad right off the bat.

Brendan Bendar

completedit wrote: »

What's up with these freaks to be honest. How is it their natural reaction to just spear some lad right off the bat.

That’s why they are freaks,bro.

Ten of Swords

Because their society is totally homogeneous. They have never seen someone who does not look like them, dress like them or speak like them.

As far as they were concerned he came from the sea and looked completely alien to them.

Natural instinct, different = dangerous.