Ireland v USA | Joe Schmidt 36 hour speculation thread

prawnsambo

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

He hasnt taught since 2003 in New Zealand. His service to the education system should be irrelevant. He could get freedom of Dublin but what more?

Did he not teach when he was over here in his younger days? Mullingar iirc.

MrMusician18

prawnsambo wrote: »

Did he not teach when he was over here in his younger days? Mullingar iirc.

That would make him now more worthy for an education award than any other teacher with an interest in sport.

The way some people are going on you'd think he ended world hunger or something and deserves a Nobel prize. True he ended the beating the all blacks famine and is a great rugby coach, but it is up to the rugby fraternity to honour him tbh, not the State.

The Lost Sheep

prawnsambo wrote: »

Did he not teach when he was over here in his younger days? Mullingar iirc.

He did for a year or less in Wilsons Hospital but .... what MrMusician18 says

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That would make him now more worthy for an education award than any other teacher with an interest in sport.

The way some people are going on you'd think he ended world hunger or something and deserves a Nobel prize. True he ended the beating the all blacks famine and is a great rugby coach, but it is up to the rugby fraternity to honour him tbh, not the State.

+1. Exactly. An excellent coach but people are talking as if he did something far more than be an excellent rugby coach

jacothelad

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I would love an "illuminated scroll". Especially one given by "Lord Mayo".

I personally prefer Lord Salad Cream. Mayo is tasteless slop.

lawred2

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

He did for a year or less in Wilsons Hospital but .... what MrMusician18 says

+1. Exactly. An excellent coach but people are talking as if he did something far more than be an excellent rugby coach

ahem

Jack Charlton received freedom of Baile Athá Cliath did he not?

Was he more than a football coach?

prawnsambo

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That would make him now more worthy for an education award than any other teacher with an interest in sport.

The way some people are going on you'd think he ended world hunger or something and deserves a Nobel prize. True he ended the beating the all blacks famine and is a great rugby coach, but it is up to the rugby fraternity to honour him tbh, not the State.

I was pointing out that he had taught here. Read my post a few times, but can't find where I said he'd be due an education award, Nobel prize or ended world hunger.

Edit: Found this photo of Joe and his wife Kellie from back then

The Rape of Lucretia

Any recognition for him has to wait until after, and to some degree, depends on Irelands result, at the world cup. Clive Woodward got a Knighthood, and we would have to give Joe the same if he won it. Possibly even if he only got us to the final, on his overall contribution to Irish rugby. But that would hint at devaluing SCW's award. If not a knighthood, then certainly a lesser decoration no matter what the WC result.

troyzer

Heymans wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

He's definitely going to turn out to be a serial killer though.

There's a fine line between pschopath serial killer and revolutionary hero. Usually it lies in the winning losing of the cause. To my mind Hitler was a hero for Catholics.

Ah here.

OldRio

Heymans wrote: »

There's a fine line between pschopath serial killer and revolutionary hero. Usually it lies in the winning losing of the cause. To my mind Hitler was a hero for Catholics.

And the list gets longer. Some very odds posts from yourself.

troyzer

OldRio wrote: »

Heymans wrote: »

There's a fine line between pschopath serial killer and revolutionary hero. Usually it lies in the winning losing of the cause. To my mind Hitler was a hero for Catholics.

And the list gets longer. Some very odds posts from yourself.

Hitler is "one of his".

Squidgy Black

Just when you think you're having a bad day, posting sh1te that makes zero sense, Heymans comes along to save the day and take over.

joseywhales

I think every University has bestowed him with an honorary degree at this point.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

Genuinely think there should be a massive statue of Schmidt at the top of O'Connell street, or better again, at the foot of the Spire. Couldn't give a phuck about the WC. I'm living the dream after beating the ABs twice in three years. Everything else is a bonus.

Clegg

Sure didn't the Nazi's love a bit of the old persecution against Catholics.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

Very forward thinking when it came to animal welfare though.

lawred2

Clegg wrote: »

Sure didn't the Nazi's love a bit of the old persecution against Catholics.

I don't think that's correct at all

It's definitely off topic however

Squidgy Black

lawred2 wrote: »

I don't think that's correct at all

It's definitely off topic however

Tis, they wanted to "dechristianize" Germany, and murdered a lot of church leaders and activists.

But anywhoo.

#Joe4Prez

prawnsambo

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Just when you think you're having a bad day, posting sh1te that makes zero sense, Heymans comes along to save the day and take over.

Yep. You're officially off the hook.

connemara man

back on topic now please

lawred2

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Tis, they wanted to "dechristianize" Germany, and murdered a lot of church leaders and activists.

But anywhoo.

#Joe4Prez

Interesting - another thing about Nazi Germany I'll have to read about then

BBDBB

Joe!....Joe!!, come back Joe!!!
They're all gone mad talking about the Nazis

Mookie Blaylock

BBDBB wrote: »

Joe!....Joe!!, come back Joe!!!
They're all gone mad talking about the Nazis

Maybe Shaggy will be on the coaching team

Paul Smeenus

This thread has gone weird.

Former Observer

Hurrache

Ah jaysus, it wouldn't have broke the bank to afford Joe a couple of more pixels.

irishbucsfan

Unbelievable stuff. I’m crying

troyzer

Former Observer wrote: »

That is a war crime.

When you begin to realise that half the boards rugby regulars are also 4channer's!

hullaballoo

The 38th Amendment to the Constitution Bill 2018.

Bunreacht na hÉireann > FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS > PERSONAL RIGHTS:

"40.2.1° Titles of nobility shall not be conferred by the State except for JOE SCHMIDT, obviously;"

Dave_The_Sheep

This took waaay longer to make than it should have.

errlloyd

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

This took waaay longer to make than it should have.

This is so amazingly useful. Thank you much.

thomond2006

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

This took waaay longer to make than it should have.

Shades of:



(One for the NFL fans!)

mr_edge_to_you

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It's in the IRFU's statement:

"Joe Schmidt has today announced that he will finish coaching following the Rugby World Cup in Japan next year. Andy Farrell will become head coach after the tournament. Speaking about his decision to finish coaching Joe Schmidt said: 'I have decided to finish coaching and will prioritise family commitments after the RWC in 2019.'"

Assuming it’s a direct quotation, he’s giving up completely. If the quote read: “I have decided to step down from the role of Ireland head coach and will prioritise family commitments after the RWC in 2019” you could interpret it differently. Joe chooses his words very carefully so prioritising family commitments could be as vague as managing a team in NZ. I think I read that his elderly mother is back there too.

I wish Joe and his family every success in the future. He’s a remarkable man and by all accounts a real gent. He was lucky too, blessed by quality players in both Leinster and Ireland and had plenty of control. Not too many other rugby coaches had/have that luxury!

Maybe he’ll come back in a few years to replace David Nucifora. The IRFU are obviously keen on succession planning and no better man for the job!!!!

stephen_n

jacothelad wrote: »

The Freedom of the City of Dublin is awarded by Dublin City Council after approving a person nominated by the Lord Mayor. Eighty-two people have been honoured under the current process introduced in 1876. Most honourees have made a contribution to the life of the city or of Ireland in general, including politicians, public servants, humanitarians, artists and entertainers; others were distinguished members of the Irish diaspora and foreign leaders, honoured visiting Dublin. Honourees sign the roll of freedmen in a ceremony at City Hall or the Mansion House and are presented with an illuminated scroll by the Lord Mayo..




If it's good enough for BOD............

Joe could join the esteemed company of Sir Bob Geldof

Bridge93

Former Observer wrote: »

Anyone notice how Joe’s expression gets increasingly concerned as the picture quality deteriorates from left to right. He’s thrilled in the first one. Less so in the last one. A full spectrum in between

Muahahaha

^ More to the point the pic contains American footballs, what where they thinking :rolleyes:

PTH2009

Big thanks to Joe

Best coach we ever had and has done wonders for Irish Rugby as a whole

Hopefully we have a world cup to remember

Personally would not of given the gig to Farrell but what can ya do. He must be the first head coach who will have a son playing on an opposition team ???

Try_harder

Joe wasnt lucky, you make your own luck. Eddie O Sullivan was given the most talented Irish team ever and pissed it away on a few triple crowns.

Joe is meticulous- you see it in Leinster then Irelands plays.

The man should be made an honorary Irish 1st Citizen

Try_harder

stephen_n wrote: »

Joe could join the esteemed company of Sir Bob Geldof

They have a spare one (two in fact!)

CatFromHue

Try_harder wrote: »

Joe wasnt lucky, you make your own luck. Eddie O Sullivan was given the most talented Irish team ever and pissed it away on a few triple crowns.

I dunno

Eddie might have had better centres and shaded the outside backs available to him but I'd take the halfbacks and front row that Joe's had available in a heart beat.

It's been awhile but I think it's now time to say Sexton is better than ROG, and Murray is better than Stringer/Boss/Reddan.

The second and back rows is an interesting debate, actually the outside backs one is up for debate too.

joseywhales

Try_harder wrote: »

Joe wasnt lucky, you make your own luck. Eddie O Sullivan was given the most talented Irish team ever and pissed it away on a few triple crowns.

Joe is meticulous- you see it in Leinster then Irelands plays.

The man should be made an honorary Irish 1st Citizen

It's not like you have to trash one guy to praise another.

People are awful hard on Eddie, as if he vindictively decided to underperform at the world cup, he obviously wanted Ireland to win. He was more consistent than previous teams and kidney. He had one or two great players but a lot of filler and no depth. He had limited coaching experience as well, did as well as he was capable, what more can you ask.

mr_edge_to_you

Try_harder wrote: »

Joe wasnt lucky, you make your own luck. Eddie O Sullivan was given the most talented Irish team ever and pissed it away on a few triple crowns.

Joe is meticulous- you see it in Leinster then Irelands plays.

The man should be made an honorary Irish 1st Citizen

He became an Irish citizen in Sept 2015.

P_1

Who'd have thought that one of the English centres from THAT match in Croker would be the head coach of Ireland 12 years later?

Try_harder

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

He became an Irish citizen in Sept 2015.

Read what I wrote

Try_harder

joseywhales wrote: »

It's not like you have to trash one guy to praise another.

People are awful hard on Eddie, as if he vindictively decided to underperform at the world cup, he obviously wanted Ireland to win. He was more consistent than previous teams and kidney. He had one or two great players but a lot of filler and no depth. He had limited coaching experience as well, did as well as he was capable, what more can you ask.

He was an IRFU man than they sacked Warren Gatland to install.

Trojan

Eddie was good in his heyday, but didn't seem to want to adapt to a changing game - refusing to use replacements, develop the squad, ignoring Murphy & Quinlan, not dropping players out of form. His team of world-class players had poor showings against Argentina, Italy, Bayonne, Nambia, Georgia and Scotland. Then he hung around too long after the World Cup - for financial reasons and I can't blame him for that (but I do blame Browne & IRFU for that crazy 4 year contract extension before the RWC).

All that said, he was a very good manager. He put things in place for Kidney, who set us up for Joe, and that's why this post is on topic, honest.

Former Former

Eddie did a great job overall. Someone above said he pissed away our talent on triple crowns, that's pretty ignorant tbh. Winning three TCs in four years was incredible progress from where we had been for the previous two decades. He was a leading candidate for the 09 Lions until it all fell apart.

Eddie suffers massively because of the 07 RWC and he has to shoulder his share of the blame for it but no one really knows what went wrong there.

His contract extension raised a few eyebrows because it would have meant he'd be in charge for ten years but there was absolutely no suggestion that he shouldn't have been kept on.

CatFromHue

Gordon D'arcy was on Eamonn Dunphy's podcast and it was brought up.

D'arcy said they tried to change the way the team played before the tournament and then for some reason, I can't remember now, they tried to go back to the original style which caused even more problems.

Podge_irl

Trojan wrote: »

Eddie was good in his heyday, but didn't seem to want to adapt to a changing game - refusing to use replacements, develop the squad, ignoring Murphy & Quinlan, not dropping players out of form.

Murphy got way more gametime than his frequently inconsistent form and absolutely shocking defence deserved. I will never understand the fascination with him. Falling 40 points behind in Paris before that weird attempted comeback was almost entirely his fault and his 'defence' in the lead up to Ibanez's try in the 07 France match was one of the worst things I've seen. Dempsey was twice the fullback he was.

CatFromHue

I don't get it either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRlEOaCrcko