JFK Assassination Autopsy Details Revealed After 55 Years

Cheerful Spring

This was Warren Commission own bullets after it hit just wrist.



You can see how ridiculous this theory is, this bullet caused multiple injuries to two men.

They tested 100 bullets and not even one looked like that bullet in the JFK archive.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Two shooters explain the events we see.

Connelly was likely hit from behind on the second. Another shot from behind missed likely after the motorcade speed away.

Two shots came from the front. One hit Kennedy in the throat first shot, third hit his head.

Wrong. Kennedy's head clearly goes forward first during the headshot. Impossible from a front shot from the grassy knoll.



The throat shot clearly came from above and behind. To say that was also a front shot is complete nonsense.

The Nal

The lads will go for a hide when perfectly reasonable points like JFKs head moving forward come up. Same for the people on the knoll steps not hearing a rifle firing 6 feet away from them. How did they not notice?! Ive posted a list of basic questions on here a couple of times and theyve been ignored.

Just get laughable deflection responses like "the media" or "all the doctors" thought was a conspiracy.

Cowardly behaviour.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Wrong. Kennedy's head clearly goes forward first during the headshot. Impossible from a front shot from the grassy knoll.



The throat shot clearly came from above and behind. To say that was also a front shot is complete nonsense.

That a headshot from the right front (grassy knoll and underpass). You even see the spray and splatter goes up into the air. The splatter would go to the right if it was an exit shot.

The right side of his head near his ear exploded not the back of the skull.

His head did not move forward it went 'back and to the left' Kennedy head jolted that way.

twinytwo

like everything the truth will remain hidden until all those involved are dead.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

The lads will go for a hide when perfectly reasonable points like JFKs head moving forward come up. Same for the people on the knoll steps not hearing a rifle firing 6 feet away from them. How did they not notice?! Ive posted a list of basic questions on here a couple of times and theyve been ignored.

Just get laughable deflection responses like "the media" or "all the doctors" thought was a conspiracy.

Cowardly behaviour.

Hiding from nothing we can't be on here 24 hours a day. It obvious his head went back and to the left. They're not even a hint of spray coming out at the back of the skull on the Zapruder movie.

The spray flying into the air is a giveaway the shot came from the right front. None of you is able to pinpoint where this bullet impacted at the back of the skull?

Wrong dozens of eyewitnesses heard the rifle shot coming from behind the picket fence. That's why they all ran in that direction and not towards TBD. By the way, multiple eyewitnesses including police officers smelled gunpowder at street level and impossibility if Oswald was the only shooter.

Arthur Daley

This is good stuff. Long believed in second shooter with front shot, and probability LHO wasn't even involved in the shot/shots from the back.

But this thread has me back and forth, like a tennis match.

Cheerful Spring

Arthur Daley wrote: »

This is good stuff. Long believed in second shooter with front shot, and probability LHO wasn't even involved in the shot/shots from the back.

But this thread has me back and forth, like a tennis match.

Personally, I don't rule Oswald out as one of the shooters. He may well be, but he worked with others if he was involved.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

That a headshot from the right front (grassy knoll and underpass). You even see the spray and splatter goes up into the air. The splatter would go to the right if it was an exit shot.

The right side of his head near his ear exploded not the back of the skull.

His head did not move forward it went 'back and to the left' Kennedy head jolted that way.

You can clearly see his head go forward FFS, to say otherwise is just patently untrue. "Back and to the left"???..... someone has been watching too much Kevin Costner in JFK it would seem.

Can you please explain the head going forward here if it's a front shot.... it's impossible. Clear as day it's a shot from behind. It's not even debatable.

The Nal

namloc1980 wrote: »

You can clearly see his head go forward FFS, to say otherwise is just patently untrue. "Back and to the left"???..... someone has been watching too much Kevin Costner in JFK it would seem.

He will ignore that. He will also ignore the blood spray also clearly going forward and wont explain how a shot from the right causes an exit wound on the right, leaving the left of JFKs head untouched.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

You can clearly see his head go forward FFS, to say otherwise is just patently untrue. "Back and to the left"???..... someone has been watching too much Kevin Costner in JFK it would seem.

Can you please explain the head going forward here if it's a front shot.... it's impossible. Clear as day it's a shot from behind. It's not even debatable.

I think you guys are blind. That a back and to left movement of the head. Do you guys actually know what forward is have to ask?

If a bullet hit from the right his head would go the opposite way from the force of the blow.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

He will ignore that. He will also ignore the blood spray also clearly going forward and wont explain how a shot from the right causes an exit wound on the right, leaving the left of JFKs head untouched.

Wrong the spray shoots up into the air above his head. You even see where Jackie right hand is you can see it clearly. Soon as his head pushed to the left his head obscures the clear image of her hand there. That how you now his head moved to the left and fairly clear on video his head moved back and to the left.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I think you guys are blind. That a back and to left movement of the head. Do you guys actually know what forward is have to ask?

If a bullet hit from the right his head would go the opposite way from the force of the blow.

Once more why does the head move FORWARD initially? Why did the spray go forward and up? Why does the brain tissue and bone fragments go forward into his lap?

Answer: shot from behind

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Once more why does the head move FORWARD initially? Why did the spray go forward and up? Why does the brain tissue and bone fragments go forward into his lap?

Answer: shot from behind

Show me exactly where you think the head moved forward? Kennedy's head jolted to the left and back.

Bullet hit the brain tissue on the right side near his ear, it would blow upwards. If the bullet exited the human brain the spray would be propelled to the right not upwards.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Show me exactly where you think the head moved forward? Kennedy's head jolted to the left and back.

Bullet hit the brain tissue on the right side near his ear, it would blow upwards. If the bullet exited the human brain the spray would be propelled to the right not upwards.

Oh FFS. You're being obtuse now at this stage. Is this one clear enough for you? Forward head movement and brain matter going forwards.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Oh FFS. You're being obtuse now at this stage. Is this one clear enough for you? Forward head movement and brain matter going forwards.

Kennedy was not hit in frame 312 that a nice manipulation. Head was hit in frame 313.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Kennedy was not hit in frame 312 that a nice manipulation. Head was hit in frame 313.

Did he just decide to do a massive forwards lurch, just for the craic maybe? Sorry Cheerful Spring, you have zero credibility at this stage. The video is there which clearly shows a forward head movement on impact yet you're pretending not to see it because you know it completely blows up your beliefs. Close mindedness at its finest.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Did he just decide to do a massive forwards lurch, just for the craic maybe? Sorry Cheerful Spring, you have zero credibility at this stage. The video is there which clearly shows a forward head movement on impact yet you're pretending not to see it because you know it completely blows up your beliefs. Close mindedness at its finest.

Do you believe one frame shows substantial forward head movement? Do you not know 6 frames amounts to less than to 1 second. There more frames showing a back to the left movement of Kennedy's head.

I looked at the Zapruder film again I don't see this forward motion in the movie.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Do you believe one frame shows substantial forward head movement? Do you not know 6 frames amounts to less than to 1 second. There more frames showing a back to the left movement of Kennedy's head.

I looked at the Zapruder film again I don't see this forward motion in the movie.

Well you're only fooling yourself I'm afraid. Anyone who says they can't see a forward movement here is not telling the truth. Clear as day. Bullet impact causes head to lurch forward. Then the outward force and spray of the brain matter forces head back. Brain matter should FORWARD into his lap. Here it is again for you:

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 Your video shows Kennedy head move to the right also. That could be just natural head movement before the shot came in at frame 313.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Well you're only fooling yourself I'm afraid. Anyone who says they can't see a forward movement here is not telling the truth. Clear as day. Bullet impact causes head to lurch forward. Then the outward force and spray of the brain matter forces head back. Brain matter should FORWARD into his lap. Here it is again for you:

There is mixing of frames. Kennedy was shot in frame 313 and his head moved to left and back right up to frame 322.

You using one frame in 312 to claim Kennedy's head moved forward?

Why did the bullet entering the skull in frames prior to 312 not show spray or blood? His back hairline is intact?

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 the original frames are clear, no forward head movement. I think someone manipulated or worked on the frames to make them appear different.

Frame 312 https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z312.jpg

In this original form, you actually see the spray more heading up into the air
Frame 313 https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z313.jpg

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

namloc1980 the original frames are clear, no forward head movement. I think someone manipulated or worked on the frames to make them appear different.

Frame 312 https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z312.jpg

In this original form, you actually see the spray more heading up into the air
Frame 313 https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z313.jpg

Clearly the head is more forward on 313 than in 312. I mean clearly and unequivocally. Also your image shows the majority of the spray is going forward in that frame, so I presume you now agree it was a shot from behind. Spray going forward is not possible from a front shot. I also knew the phrase "but it's been manipulated" would come out when it blows up your beliefs, classic conspiracist lines.

Abraham Zapruder and his secretary who were standing literally a few metres from the grassy knoll fence didn't hear any shots from there. The secretary Marilyn Sitzman was adamant no shots came from the knoll and she was literally a couple of metres from it.

Cheerful Spring

The more I think about could this be what Dino Antonio Brugioni saw in the original frames If they showed him the Zapruder film and not the original frames he would be confused?

He said when he saw the original frames there was a haze more of a spray above the head? Frame 313 shows that? There still could be missing frames but is the Zaprauder film doctored?

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Clearly the head is more forward on 313 than in 312. I mean clearly and unequivocally. Also your image shows the majority of the spray is going forward in that frame, so I presume you now agree it was a shot from behind. Spray going forward is not possible from a front shot. I also knew the phrase "but it's been manipulated" would come out when it blows up your beliefs, classic conspiracist lines.

Abraham Zapruder and his secretary who were standing literally a few metres from the grassy knoll fence didn't hear any shots from there. The secretary Marilyn Sitzman was adamant no shots came from the knoll and she was literally a couple of metres from it.

The problem with your theory you have yet to explain how a bullet goes through Kennedy skull and leaves no evidence of damage to the hairline. There no spray or blood there. A bullet makes a hole you know and it's violent. Warren Commission places the bullet entering the top back of the skull and moving to the right and out.

Timberrrrrrrr

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The problem with your theory you have yet to explain how a bullet goes through Kennedy skull and leaves no evidence of damage to the hairline. There no spray or blood there. A bullet makes a hole you know and it's violent. Warren Commission places the bullet entering the top back of the skull and moving to the right and out.

Jesus H Christ!

Entry wound will ALWAYS be the diameter of the bullet, exit wound is larger! You have no experience with shooting yet you talk as if you are an expert!

Bullet clearly enters at the rear and exits at the front hence the massive trauma and spray of blood/brain matter.

Cheerful Spring

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Jesus H Christ!

Entry wound will ALWAYS be the diameter of the bullet, exit wound is larger! You have no experience with shooting yet you talk as if you are an expert!

Bullet clearly enters at the rear and exits at the front hence the massive trauma and spray of blood/brain matter.

You think a Carcano bullet hitting the back of the head would not show on video?

You guys have also ignored the official record of evidence in this thread. The Warren Commission own ballistic experts were unconvinced by the magic bullet theory. The tested 100 bullets of the very same type and make and not even 1 out of 100 was undamaged or deformed. Do you think the Warren commission own experts are part of the conspiracy?

That bullet clearly was planted therefore the event is a conspiracy.

Timberrrrrrrr

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You think a Carcano bullet hitting the back of the head would not show on video?

Please explain why a carcano bullet is different to every other bullet that it woulds be different on entry

You guys have also ignored the official record of evidence in this thread. The Warren Commission own ballistic experts were unconvinced by the magic bullet theory. The tested 100 bullets of the very same type and make and not even 1 out of 100 was undamaged or deformed. Do you think the Warren commission own experts are part of the conspiracy?

I could take you shooting tomorrow, we could fire 1000 bullets and no 2 would be the same.

That bullet was ALLEGEDLY planted therefore the event is a conspiracy.

This is the opinion of conspiracy theorists like yourself.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The problem with your theory you have yet to explain how a bullet goes through Kennedy skull and leaves no evidence of damage to the hairline. There no spray or blood there. A bullet makes a hole you know and it's violent. Warren Commission places the bullet entering the top back of the skull and moving to the right and out.

No problem. You wouldn't expect to see the hairline or entry wound on the film. Per the autopsy photo the entry would is a circular wound of c.1-2cm in diameter in the back of the head. Entirely consistent with a shot from the TSBD. And completely inconsistent with a shot from the grassy knoll.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You think a Carcano bullet hitting the back of the head would not show on video?

You guys have also ignored the official record of evidence in this thread. The Warren Commission own ballistic experts were unconvinced by the magic bullet theory. The tested 100 bullets of the very same type and make and not even 1 out of 100 was undamaged or deformed. Do you think the Warren commission own experts are part of the conspiracy?

That bullet clearly was planted therefore the event is a conspiracy.

Your spoofing now. The bullet that hit Connally and Kennedy was damaged and deformed. Are you just having a laugh at this stage or what?