Cheltenham Antepost

handsfree2

Massimo Tara wrote: »

See that, what’s driving that? Would have had a decent punt on him if fakir want possibly going there!

Southfield Stone won today, third in the Talworth behind De nutz[/quote]

The second in the tolworth shaped like the best in the tolworth and got outstayed by de nutz. Imo he was the best horse in the race.

Nulty

Interesting horse runs tomorrow. Crucial Role is entered in the Ultima and the RSA. Beat a good field in his beginners including Chef Des Obeaux and Now McGinty and was fancied to win a grade 2 at Haydock in Jan but broke a blood vessel. He jumps well. He's been running over 2 1/2 miles but is a 3 miler. Assuming he's well since then he's potentially over priced for both those races NRNB. I would expect he'll go for the Ultima if he shows up tomorrow

TheTorment

TheTorment wrote: »

Fast Buck runs in the 1st race tomorrow at Naas. His second to Fakir d’Oudairies in Cork early last month (on first run for Willie) looks decent form now after what weve seen Fakir is capable of.

Hes 40-1 with Hills without nrnb or 33-1 and 25-1 with sky or bet365 with nrnb for the Supreme.

If winning tomorrow surely he'll come into half that price and could be a contender

Well that went well 🙄

IAMAMORON

Ever since Ted landed the €20 Lexus gamble on Synchronised, live on telly I might add, I have known that he knows what's going on. Ted just knows, you know?

Outlaw Pete

Hhhm, this didn't seem the most bullish of comments.


https://twitter.com/RacingTV/status/1099692546777903104

FortuneChip

Le Richebourg out for the season.

Slattsy

What???????? Awe bollox

Fanny Wank

https://twitter.com/AtTheRaces/status/1099968630706577408?s=19

The Mig

FFS

https://twitter.com/JosephOBrien2/status/1099967254412886016

Slattsy

I really thought he was a good thing!

HarshOstrich

Glen forsa wont see another rival

Ah Bollox anyway

DuffleBag

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

Ruby is the worse tipster ever, don't listen to a word he says!Lay Faugheen!!

Not sure if I agree with that. 3rd/4th best preview night tipper last year with Paul Kealy. 5 winners and 5 places

Kauto

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Glen forsa wont see another rival

Doubt he will be winning. Would imagine he will be too slow for it. Sandown last time was desperate sticky ground and he was the only one who acted on it. Wouldn't take the run literally at all.

By Mahler whose stock are generally plodders. A big lay if he heads for this.

Slattsy

This is what I said about Penhill before the festival last year:

"Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.
So how many lengths does Penhill win by?"

Watch what they Mullins lads are saying

Slattsy

My Paloma Blue bet is looking better all the time though

Kauto

Slattsy wrote: »

This is what I said about Penhill before the festival last year:

"Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.
So how many lengths does Penhill win by?"

Watch what they Mullins lads are saying

Tony Blooms horse and he is one of, if not the biggest punter in England. Of course they will down play the chances for his sake.

As an aside, Willie is a great man for letting the owner have first go and so it should be.

HarshOstrich

Kauto wrote: »

Doubt he will be winning. Would imagine he will be too slow for it. Sandown last time was desperate sticky ground and he was the only one who acted on it. Wouldn't take the run literally at all.

By Mahler whose stock are generally plodders. A big lay if he heads for this.

It’s way below normal arkle standards this year and it wasn’t the ground that got the other horses beat at sandown, he is simply a better chaser than kalashnikov,He should run a huge race.

posturingpat

Slattsy wrote: »

My Paloma Blue bet is looking better all the time though

Has he had a run since he was jumping sideways at the fences?

NaiveMelodies

posturingpat wrote: »

Has he had a run since he was jumping sideways at the fences?

Toe to toe with Real Steel before RS fell at the last. Was a good run.

Slattsy

posturingpat wrote: »

Has he had a run since he was jumping sideways at the fences?

He's with the best man for the job.

RivetingRoger

If they re route defil to arkle I will cry

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

I've just backed Real Steel for the JLT. 20s with Boyles.

I think he'll win well today at Thurles and shorten massively for Cheltenham. JLT definitely his target. In a race that looks like it'll cut up big time, I think he goes off 5/1 at Cheltenham! (once he wins by half the track today)

Backed to win! But I'm greedy. I'd recommend each way lol

This lad into 5s in a place. Mostly 6s. 12s with Boyles still the best price.

Slattsy

RivetingRoger wrote: »

If they re route defil to arkle I will cry

I'd say he's nailed on to go for the Arkle now. Lets be honest, there's no choice to be made here.

Sorry for your loss

Slattsy

Someone should really start creating race threads.....

dicky dunne

RivetingRoger wrote: »

If they re route defil to arkle I will cry

if they don't, i will cry

The Mig

Christmas eve this day 2 weeks time

BumperD

Slattsy wrote: »

Someone should really start creating race threads.....

Go for it

pugw

Some good trend info for each race in the Irish field Cheltenham magazine!

maximo31

pugw wrote: »

Some good trend info for each race in the Irish field Cheltenham magazine!

If you like the trends this website might be of use to you.......:
http://www.gaultstats.com/

pugw

maximo31 wrote: »

pugw wrote: »

Some good trend info for each race in the Irish field Cheltenham magazine!

If you like the trends this website might be of use to you.......:
http://www.gaultstats.com/

In think that could be where they pulled them for! I wouldn’t be too into them but for example I read that something 8 out of the last 10 winners *(not exact figures) of the county were aged 5 or 6 ... so I didn’t go as Heaney in jezki as I would have

supremenovice

maximo31 wrote: »

If you like the trends this website might be of use to you.......:
http://www.gaultstats.com/

Last couple of Festivals have been a disaster for trends followers like myself!
Im just gonna watch replays and make my own mind up instead - the old fashioned way;)

HarshOstrich

supremenovice wrote: »

Last couple of Festivals have been a disaster for trends followers like myself!
Im just gonna watch replays and make my own mind up instead - the old fashioned way;)

Agree fully, last years festival I read too much previews and I struggled to pick a horse from a shortlist , my judgement got clouded, just going on what I’ve seen this year.

Gavin "shels"

Could be the same but trends also here: https://chelt-mental.co.uk/articles

Outlaw Pete

Don't see how Sir Erec is so short. Looks very beatable to me.

I'd give Tiger Tap Tap a good chance at reversing his 2nd to him at Leopardstown. Don't mind that last run as, as far as I'm concerned, Ruby never tried a yard. Elbow flapping and whip flailing at it's best (same goes for his ride on Bachasson by the way, never put the horse in the race).

Apple Jade is another I couldn't have. Running fast around Leopardstown is one thing, quite another to do it at Cheltenham and I see Buveur D'air powering past her on the hill with maybe only Verdana Blue (if the ground stays this side of g/s) of the others with a shout (ground dependent).

Angel's Breath looks nailed on to get placed in the Supreme to me too. Another that wasn't asked to dig too deep lto.

BumperD

Sir Eric could be as good as he looked the last day but I’ll probably side with Gardens of Babylon at the prices to improve past him . 2nds in this race have a good record in the triumph. Also felt he wasn’t ridden too forward in the DRF so liked the way he shaped

Massimo Tara

Can't agree with you on Angels Breath. He should be put in the Ballymore, looks to need the longer trip. I was listening to one of the lads in the RP podcast and agreed with him completely when he said if AB had a bit of class he would've found a way to win lto

PhuckHugh2

Massimo Tara wrote: »

Can't agree with you on Angels Breath. He should be put in the Ballymore, looks to need the longer trip. I was listening to one of the lads in the RP podcast and agreed with him completely when he said if AB had a bit of class he would've found a way to win lto

Can you explain what you mean by bit of class?

He won a Grade 2 on his first start under rules and was second in another Grade 2 on his second start where he gave the winner 5lbs and they broke the track record for the grade.
You dont do that without being some bit talented.

Outlaw Pete

Massimo Tara wrote: »

Can't agree with you on Angels Breath. He should be put in the Ballymore, looks to need the longer trip. I was listening to one of the lads in the RP podcast and agreed with him completely when he said if AB had a bit of class he would've found a way to win lto

I didn't say he would win. I'm saying he's nailed on to be placed (in whichever of the two he goes in).

He wasn't fully wound up for that race anyway, and jumped the last all wrong losing his momentum for a stride or two, but it's how he is held up and that lovely turn of foot he has, in truly run races, that makes him a place certainty for me.

One horse I will be backing to win for sure will be Henderson's Epatante in the Mare's Novice.

lemush

The best novice hurdler Henderson has will be JPs “second string” in the supreme.

Slattsy

lemush wrote: »

The best novice hurdler Henderson has will be JPs “second string” in the supreme.

Apparently Geraghty really rates him, but cant have it myself.

akelly02

lemush wrote: »

The best novice hurdler Henderson has will be JPs “second string” in the supreme.

Whos that

Massimo Tara

PhuckHugh2 wrote: »

Can you explain what you mean by bit of class?

He won a Grade 2 on his first start under rules and was second in another Grade 2 on his second start where he gave the winner 5lbs and they broke the track record for the grade.
You dont do that without being some bit talented.

I'd question the form of that Grade 2 he won, not much behind him. Southfield Stone blundered the last badly, idled in front and quickened up again when Angels Breath came up beside him. Personally don't think 2m is his trip. Think he would be a serious contender in the Ballymore

PhuckHugh2

Massimo Tara wrote: »

I'd question the form of that Grade 2 he won, not much behind him. Southfield Stone blundered the last badly, idled in front and quickened up again when Angels Breath came up beside him. Personally don't think 2m is his trip. Think he would be a serious contender in the Ballymore

I mean that point is fair enough. But would he not need some "bit of class" to win a Ballymore also? I just find that point you made about him not having class a bit strange. He is clearly a pretty talented horse.

pugw

akelly02 wrote: »

lemush wrote: »

The best novice hurdler Henderson has will be JPs “second string” in the supreme.

Whos that

Champagne platinum??

lemush

pugw wrote: »

Champagne platinum??

Yes, in my opinion. Just hope he doesn't go Ballymore but he probably will if recent comments are to be believed.

pugw

Had him backed at Cheltenham, he ran green enough but got the job done! Would be with a pint at 20s . . . The supreme is awful competitive though, fakir, elixir !

Earendil

Lads/Coral have went NRNB all races.

RivetingRoger

Earendil wrote: »

Lads/Coral have went NRNB all races.

Not till midnight tonight

Earendil

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Not till midnight tonight

No, from midnight on the 26th.