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RivetingRoger

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Roger won't be happy. Delighted.

Sorry...did I miss myself offending u ?

Andrew00

Benie Des Dieux wins the Mares. I’ll be having a good bet on her whenever Mullins or Ricci tells us she’s ok or if she’ll run

HarshOstrich

Andrew00 wrote: »

Benie Des Dieux wins the Mares. I’ll be having a good bet on her whenever Mullins or Ricci tells us she’s ok or if she’ll run

I was only looking at this, has the beating of apples from last year, due to run a Gowran park I read somewhere.

madmoose

sitkaspruce wrote: »

Will Willie get a run into Laurina before the Champion Hurdle? Ricci said he hopes to get a run into Saldier at the Red Mills in 2 weeks.

Goes punchestown this month then CH

HandsomeBob

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Sorry...did I miss myself offending u ?

Delighted as in great to see more depth added to the race now. Could end up being the highlight of the week.

HandsomeBob

Anyone reckon Sharjah could be a dark horse for the Champion Hurdle. Hasn't done a whole lot wrong and seems an honest yoke.

Gringo180

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Anyone reckon Sharjah could be a dark horse for the Champion Hurdle. Hasn't done a whole lot wrong and seems an honest yoke.

Would be my luck alright after backing him in last years Supreme Novices.

WicklowBrave

Too many sensitive lads on this forum. It's all just a laugh.

Anyway, I was having a look at the Gold Cup market there and it makes for interesting reading. Presenting Percy has a massive chance. Bellshill has a decent chance. Native River, Might Bite, and Al Boum Photo have small chances. Invitation Only has next to no chance. The rest have absolutely no chance.

Slattsy

WicklowBrave wrote: »

Too many sensitive lads on this forum. It's all just a laugh.

Anyway, I was having a look at the Gold Cup market there and it makes for interesting reading. Presenting Percy has a massive chance. Bellshill has a decent chance. Native River, Might Bite, and Al Boum Photo have small chances. Invitation Only has next to no chance. The rest have absolutely no chance.

Is that not generally how the top of most markets appear? 😂

Gavin "shels"

WicklowBrave wrote: »

Anyway, I was having a look at the Gold Cup market there and it makes for interesting reading. Presenting Percy has a massive chance. Bellshill has a decent chance. Native River, Might Bite, and Al Boum Photo have small chances. Invitation Only has next to no chance. The rest have absolutely no chance.

Bellshill has a decent chance but no mention of R2R?

WicklowBrave

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Bellshill has a decent chance but no mention of R2R?

R2R has absolutely no chance. Jumps like a young lad getting a bating off his father. Bellshill will lap him in the Gold Cup.

WicklowBrave

Slattsy wrote: »

Is that not generally how the top of most markets appear? 😂

Yeah I've worded that really badly ffs. Haha.

RivetingRoger

I have been putting up Bellshill on here for the GC for ages now. The trip will suit, the ground is not as a big a factor for him as it is for NR/MB and others. Top jock on board. My idea of front 3 is Percy Bellshill and thistlecrack

Leslie Purkiss

Is ground or injury the reason for Benie absence to date?

Limini another for the mares. I thought she put the Christmas run well behind her last day.

Any bookies NRNB for the mares?

WicklowBrave

Can't see past Percy myself. Hacked up in the RSA and the form getting franked left, right and centre. Native River will want it up to his knees again. Might Bite looks like he's had enough. Al Boum Photo I think is a horse on the up, his Tramore win was very good. Bellshill's Irish Nash was some performance. The rest have zero chance.

RivetingRoger

Do people expect to see Min in the 2mile and FP and UDS in the longer?

WicklowBrave

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Do people expect to see Min in the 2mile and FP and UDS in the longer?

Footpad will run in the Champion Chase and he is a serious bet.

RivetingRoger

WicklowBrave wrote: »

Footpad will run in the Champion Chase and he is a serious bet.

I love footpad Wickla but how could anyone think he could give Altior a scare on any known form??

NaiveMelodies

RivetingRoger wrote: »

I love footpad Wickla but how could anyone think he could give Altior a scare on any known form??

Based on that logic, noone should turn up.

yaboya1

Percy looks very solid.
2/2 at the festival and the form of his RSA is standing up well. Will also definitely get the trip having previously won over 3m4f. Would have preferred to see him run more, but trainer knows what he's doing and he gave him a similar prep last year.
I wouldn't be a fan of Bellshill. His previous runs at the festival have been disappointing, with a well beaten third the best he's managed. Maybe the trip will bring out the best in him, but he's not for me. Wouldn't say he's no chance... :P, but would rather side with Invitation Only for those connections ahead of Al Boum Photo.
Think Native River will place but won't win. The Gold Cup is a brute of a race and usually doesn't go to a previous runner/winner (I said usually, before people start quoting Kauto Star or Native River himself). Can't have Might Bite. Horse looks to have fallen out of love with the game, which is a pity given the superstar he looked over the last couple of seasons. Road to Respect wasn't good enough last year. Don't see why that will have changed. Elegant Escape couldn't keep up with Frodon on easier ground than he'll get here, so he's little chance of laying up in a Gold Cup. He's also well held by Percy on last year's form, but may stay on past beaten horses for a place. Clan Des Obeaux is another one I don't like. Could be another Silviniaco Conti. Doubt he'll place. Didn't fancy Thistlecrack two years ago and definitely don't want him now. Far too many question marks, aside from the fact that he's 11 and spent a season on the sidelines. Sizing John ticks a few of the wrong boxes too and is also ruled out fairly confidently. Presenting Percy, Elegant Escape, Native River the 1-2-3 for me.

WicklowBrave

RivetingRoger wrote: »

I love footpad Wickla but how could anyone think he could give Altior a scare on any known form??

He's a serious each way bet. Have to take on Altior as futile as it will probably be. Footpad's Arkle was a serious performance. My initial reaction was the race fell into his lap but think that's overplayed. Still won so easily despite that bad mistake aswell.

maximo31

Sky bet offering 12/1 Apples Jade (CH) / Sir Eric (TH) today only. Might interest some....

Andrew00

maximo31 wrote: »

Sky bet offering 12/1 Apples Jade (CH) / Sir Eric (TH) today only. Might interest some....

Probably 10 Euro max lol

Gringo180

Cant have Bellshill. Surely a potential Gold Cup winner would of won the Irish National carrying 11-05 on his back. Our Duke pissed it the year before carrying 1lb less.

Slattsy

Couldn't have Bellshill myself. Actually thought Road to Respect should have won. Ruby outrode Flanagan. I like Flanagan but that's two poor rides he's given RTR.

Is Kilultagh Vic value at 33s, taking the Galmoy form literally it could look big!

Gringo180

Still cant get me head around how on earth Clan Des Obeaux is 8/1. Thats ****ing mental. He will love the 3m2f around Cheltenham. Probably my NAP of the festival.

BumperD

Slattsy wrote: »

Couldn't have Bellshill myself. Actually thought Road to Respect should have won. Ruby outrode Flanagan. I like Flanagan but that's two poor rides he's given RTR.

Is Kilultagh Vic value at 33s, taking the Galmoy form literally it could look big!

He’s fragile but wherever KV runs I’m backing him. Wouldn’t be at all surprised at a WH attempt for him or Bapaume

BumperD

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Anyone reckon Sharjah could be a dark horse for the Champion Hurdle. Hasn't done a whole lot wrong and seems an honest yoke.

I was at the finish line last year and was a little disappointed to see so many finishing so close in the supreme. I stated that here at the time. Generally indicates no superstars in that division. I’m not sure last years supreme will hold up for much. Most this season have had frailties exposed. Which brings us to Sharjah. He was back in the ruck on that bad ground in March. He might well get decent ground Day 1, even with some watering he handled ballybritt last summer just fine on soft. The big concern is just that, he’s on the go since August, that’s a really long season. Impossible to peak again in March so that’s why I’d be against him, I can see him hitting 4th or 5th if the current ones stand their ground.

BumperD

With Sir Erek looking like the JOB triumph entry, surely he will put Felix doudairies into the supreme?

Scott Tenorman

yaboya1 wrote: »

Close 2nd in the Triumph having not run for 3 months, then won the mares hurdle beating G1 winner Vroum Vroum Mag. Hardly poor performances.
Last year wasn't good, but two good runs v one bad doesn't really support your argument.

Poor relative to her runs outside of cheltenham. Take the triumph hurdle run versus the race at Aintree straight afterwards for example. Chalk and cheese

yaboya1

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

Poor relative to her runs outside of cheltenham. Take the triumph hurdle run versus the race at Aintree straight afterwards for example. Chalk and cheese

Probably needed the run at Cheltenham though. Hadn't run since Stephen's Day.

madmoose

Dallas Des Pictons for the Martin Pipe at 14/1 is still fair as i have just seen he has gone upto 136 up 11lbs and gets in now. Gordon loves the race with the M Pipe connection and has won the last two renewals.

I was happy to see he stayed well too the other day especially that this race is won by stayers such as Blow By Blow, Sir Des Champs, Don Poli etc

That 14/1 is with Boyles

Slattsy

I took 20s with Ladbrokes a while back. Seen money for him across the board and Ladbrokes last to react so took a chance.

He was backed from 8s into 7/2 on Sunday and won really well. Kennedy possibly got there too soon but idled. Looks a good un.

Agree 14s still big as he's 8s in places. Goes off 4s.

Slattsy

I'll send my updated ap bets later as that probably looks like after timing! Sorry. X

Backstreet Moyes

Tiger Roll and Paisley park the skybet special today 12s from 8s for anyone interested

The Mig

BumperD wrote: »

With Sir Erek looking like the JOB triumph entry, surely he will put Felix doudairies into the supreme?

Kevin Blake said FD is a possibility for the Supreme on the Monday Debate yesterday.

NaiveMelodies

madmoose wrote: »

Dallas Des Pictons for the Martin Pipe at 14/1 is still fair as i have just seen he has gone upto 136 up 11lbs and gets in now. Gordon loves the race with the M Pipe connection and has won the last two renewals.

I was happy to see he stayed well too the other day especially that this race is won by stayers such as Blow By Blow, Sir Des Champs, Don Poli etc

That 14/1 is with Boyles

That looks a very good shout. I think Elliott has laid out another for this big shtyle.

show me the money.1

BumperD wrote: »

With Sir Erek looking like the JOB triumph entry, surely he will put Felix doudairies into the supreme?

I liked Konitho's run in nass in its maiden its time was actually faster that Espoir D'allen winning the limestone lad grade 3 the next race the same day over same 2 miles and has an entry for the supreme.

Konitho now runs in the green and gold silks (entered this wend) which could be a problem as to where it goes in March.

Gringo180

Is it just me or does the Supreme look an appalling race?

RivetingRoger

Who are the "must haves" in the accas?

Thinking Altior, Sir Erec, and Paisley Park

madmoose

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Who are the "must haves" in the accas?

Thinking Altior, Sir Erec, and Paisley Park

Maybe honeysuckle aswell in the mares novice as epatante still isnt out

RivetingRoger

madmoose wrote: »

Maybe honeysuckle aswell in the mares novice as epatante still isnt out

Heard somewhere that she might not go the festival???
Hope she does, have her in an AP Double with Defil on the Thursday

RivetingRoger

C*cks on the blocks time
What AP bets are on lads?
I have

Laurina @4/1 Champion Hurdle
Thistlecrack @ 12/1 GC
Bellshill @16/1 GC
Elixier de Nutz @ 12/1 Supreme
AJ/Altior/Percy treble (but AJ is in Mares in this bet, so thats fu*ked)
Le Richbourg @ 7/1 Arkle
Impulsive Star ew @12/1 4miler
Faugheen @ 10/1 Stayers
Hazel Hill @ 10/1 Foxhunters
Defil @ 10/1 and Honeysuckle @ 7/2 Double (JLT/Mares Novice)
Monalee @ 10/1 Ryanair
Defil @10/1 JLT
AJ 15/8 (Chmp Hurdle) Altior 4/9 Paisely Park @ 5/2 Stayers and Percy 5/2 GC Acca
Le Richbourg 4/1 Arkle Defil de Seiul 4/1 JLT... Double

Not saying stakes incase her indoors is looking in...........

Slattsy

14s on Dallas Des Pictons gone with Boyles. Boardies got on, 10s best price now. Still think this fella goes of half that !!!!

Slattsy

I've backed Getaway Trump (16s) for the Supreme before he goes for the Betfair this weekend. A great traveller (no not one of them) who should relish a proper pace and that Cheltenham hill.

Andrew00

Slattsy wrote: »

I've backed Getaway Trump (16s) for the Supreme before he goes for the Betfair this weekend. A great traveller (no not one of them) who should relish a proper pace and that Cheltenham hill.

Worth backing on Saturday too?

Gavin "shels"

Gringo180 wrote: »

Still cant get me head around how on earth Clan Des Obeaux is 8/1. Thats ****ing mental. He will love the 3m2f around Cheltenham. Probably my NAP of the festival.

No one listened to us a couple pages back, no one will listen to us know Gringo 8/1 is a steal!

BumperD

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

No one listened to us a couple pages back, no one will listen to us know Gringo 8/1 is a steal!

Back him Saturday in a two horse race it’s like free money if you think 8/1 in March is that good

Gavin "shels"

BumperD wrote: »

Back him Saturday in a two horse race it’s like free money if you think 8/1 in March is that good

Prefer to back 8/1 AP for the GC before Saturday than back 13/8 to win the Denman.:D

BumperD

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Prefer to back 8/1 AP for the GC before Saturday than back 13/8 to win the Denman.:D

Hummmm surely the Denman Saturday will be much easier than next month if you think 8/1 value then a lump job Saturday (not for me, I’m a percy man)................. just saying