Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

pjohnson

Highly dpubt Williams is actually gunna go anywhere. They are just the new Minardi it seems constant backmarkers.

Adamocovic

pjohnson wrote: »

Highly dpubt Williams is actually gunna go anywhere. They are just the new Minardi it seems constant backmarkers.

Used to love the Minardi cars, always forget Toro Rosso came from them.

recyclebin

What's the best website for view testing times by tyre compound?

I'd like to see everyone's best times on the c3 tyre and on the C4 tyre.

eviltimeban

Lazenby and Davidson weren't bad together - at least Lazenby wasn't being OTT. It's that "laugh in the voice" style of delivery that Croft has which is really beginning to annoy me. Like he's doing a VO for a commercial, rather than just speaking in his normal voice.

Adamocovic

Williams car has arrived, expected to hit the track after lunch.

Be interesting to see what sort of pace (or lackthereof) the car has.

El_Duderino 09

recyclebin wrote: »

What's the best website for view testing times by tyre compound?

I'd like to see everyone's best times on the c3 tyre and on the C4 tyre.

Motorsport.com had that info on Monday.

El_Duderino 09

Adamocovic wrote: »

Williams car has arrived, expected to hit the track after lunch.

Be interesting to see what sort of pace (or lackthereof) the car has.

It’s pre season testing so pace us almost irrelevant. Williams will be doing the initial shakedown which other teams did last week. So they just need a successful shakedown and get 30/40 laps under their belt. That would be a successful first day under the circumstances.

Inviere

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That would be a successful first day under the circumstances.

Or third day...

eviltimeban

That Alfa Romeo seems to have good pace.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

eviltimeban wrote: »

That Alfa Romeo seems to have good pace.

I'd say Ferrari have invested the maximum the rules allow into that team.

If it keeps up i wouldn't rule out a Raikkonen podium in 2019.

eviltimeban

Peyton Lively Tiller wrote: »

I'd say Ferrari have invested the maximum the rules allow into that team.

If it keeps up i wouldn't rule out a Raikkonen podium in 2019.

That would be great to see. Or a victory in a race of attrition.

Adamocovic

Russel having his seat fitted. I'd say they would be delighted to have it do a few laps.

Anjobe

Kimi Raikonen - Cuore Sportivo!

H3llR4iser

Anyone willing to take a shot at what the best time will be by the end of the tests next week? I'd bet easily in the 1'16", maybe somebody will put in a high 1'15"...so much for "1.5 seconds slower"...

Joeface

1 Raikkonen (Alfa Romeo) 1m17.762s
2 Vettel (Ferrari) 1m18.350s
3 Hulkenberg (Renault) 1m18.800s
4 Kvyat (Toro Rosso) 1:18.897
5 Verstappen (Red Bull) 1m18.899s
6 Fittipaldi (Haas) 1m19.249s
7 Sainz (McLaren) 1m19.354s
8 Perez (Racing Point) 1m20.102s
9 Bottas (Mercedes) 1m20.693s


Mercedes just trolling around that the back is telling us nothing really . actually both mercedes powered cars are at the lower end.

Adamocovic

Russel in the car and Williams to head out on track "as soon as possible". Now the question is will their nightmare continue.

eviltimeban

Imagine they did a Brawn!

Adamocovic

This picture of them waiting for the Williams is gas!



I am imagining them running around sticking whatever they find on it, a last minute rush :P

billybonkers

Netflix series is out 8th March

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1098190573947764736

eviltimeban

Adamocovic wrote: »

This picture of them waiting for the Williams is gas!

I am imagining them running around sticking whatever they find on it, a last minute rush :P

The new Williams comes out:

pjohnson

eviltimeban wrote: »

The new Williams comes out:

I was thinking

Adamocovic

From Gary Anderson:

As they prepare to send the FW42 out for its first lap, Williams will be working on the small details with wheels on, making sure the brake ducts are clear. Checking the bodywork fits. Any grinding you hear from the garage at this stage could be a bodywork cutout that’s too close to a suspension component. It’s very easy to damage bodywork or even other parts that way. There will be these small things that need to be tidied as everything is designed to be so compact.

Jordan 199

eviltimeban wrote: »

The new Williams comes out:

Herb: Gerry, what's the sticker price?

Gerry: $82,000.

Herb: I'm ruined!

eviltimeban

Well at least it's on track. Russell did an install lap. At least it didn't break down.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

eviltimeban wrote: »

Imagine they did a Brawn!

And Kubica became champion

El_Duderino 09

OSI wrote: »

Christ. Imagine being so unprepared that you turn up to testing not even sure the bodywork will fit :rolleyes:

That’s what shakedown day is for. The other teams did their shakedown and “filming” 100km last week. So they all found those issues and cake to this test prepared. I’ll wait and see if they can get a few laps done today and tomorrow before I start to bury them.

Anjobe

Russell just set a time - 1m56.073s

Anjobe

...and immediately destroyed that with a 1m49.830s

Inviere

If he can shave another half minute off that lap time they're golden....

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Even the 1997 Lola’s were quicker than that

Jordan 199

I like the livery on the Williams.

Frank Bullitt

The livery is quite nice...the car itself?

Burkie1203

Anjobe wrote: »

...and immediately destroyed that with a 1m49.830s

Eh is the car being pushed around the track?

Kimi did a 1m17 earlier

Inviere

I think its hideous (the livery)

eviltimeban

He's ended up with a 1m25.625s. 5 seconds of the pace of the next C3 runner (which happened to be Hamilton).

Joeface

Fastest lap today


DANI K ............1m17.704s ...Honda . nice one

El_Duderino 09

23 laps for Russel in the Williams. Probably about as good as you can expect for a shakedown.

Worst case scenario would be spending the afternoon in the garage chasing an oil or hydraulic fluid leak or trying to find the source of a vibration or something. Hopefully they have a proper day tomorrow.

They’re waiting for aero parts to arrive so they can start the aero running tomorrow. So pretty sure today was just a shakedown.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-waiting-for-parts-testing/4341179/amp/

Frank Bullitt

Merc think that Ferrari are .5 secs ahead of them currently, that should seem about right.

They have a big aero upgrade for the second test, and with the mileage they have been getting, could be tight at the top.

antodeco

I'm assuming Sky F1 are showing this? I'm now home sick for the week, so may aswell catch up live!

vectra

antodeco wrote: »

I'm assuming Sky F1 are showing this? I'm now home sick for the week, so may aswell catch up live!

From 1pm each day

recyclebin

Williams is pretty ugly looking and slow. Black with red, a bit of blue and then white. Too many colours. I'm not sure why they even have the blue.

The sides of the most of the cars are getting very complicated looking with a lot of aero devices. The rule changes to the front wing has just pushed the areo development back down the chassis to this area of the car. Long gone are the days of the simple barge boards!

I'm trying to figure out what Mercedes are up to. They don't appear to be very fast on the time sheets.

El_Duderino 09

recyclebin wrote: »

Williams is pretty ugly looking and slow. Black with red, a bit of blue and then white. Too many colours. I'm not sure why they even have the blue.

The sides of the most of the cars are getting very complicated looking with a lot of aero devices. The rule changes to the front wing has just pushed the areo development back down the chassis to this area of the car. Long gone are the days of the simple barge boards!

I'm trying to figure out what Mercedes are up to. They don't appear to be very fast on the time sheets.

It’s testing. They’re under no pressure to go for fastest times. It’s all about understanding the car. How it’s aerodynamics work compared to their computer simulations. How the car heats and cools tyres. How the suspension works, how the numerous fiddley bits of electronics work. Finding the point at which parts of the car break so they know when to push and when not to push during a race weekend. Hiw the cat reacts under different aero, suspension, fuel loads, tyre camber and pressure. How they react on long runs.

That’s only some parts I can think of off the top of my head. Topping the time sheets is irrelevant until qualifying in Melbourne.

Kvyat was fastest today and Kimi yesterday. Don’t for a second believe they’re actually the fastest cars. They’re just looking for publicity by topping the timesheet. That’s not a problem but don’t bother with testing times.

muckwarrior

I think this looks good.

Frank Bullitt

I want to see them do better this year at least. I always had a soft spot for Williams.

youreadthat

From what I’ve heard from Merc this winter, the big evolution of the car is to be kinder on the tyres. I’m wondering if they are just pounding in the laps to a delta time to make sure the expected wear is happening and is predictable, given that this is a big part of their philosophy this year.

eagle eye

Well I won't be watching it anymore. Just tired of the same old every season. You can fall asleep after the first lap and wake up just before the finish and more often than not you've missed nothing important.
I started following Nascar a couple of seasons back and Indycar too. They are much more entertaining.

youreadthat

I tried to get into Indycar a couple of years ago but it was like F1 with uglier cars and amateur levels of driving skill, which can obviously lead to entertainment but it’s not for me. Also the TV coverage was dire.

muckwarrior

eagle eye wrote: »

Just tired of the same old every season. You can fall asleep after the first lap and wake up just before the finish and more often than not you've missed nothing important.

I'm tired of people saying this every season for the past 20 years or so. Maybe F1 just isn't for you.

mickdw

There can be boring races. I think it needs refuelling to add a little to the strategy combinations and chances of things going wrong.
Should be few interesting races coming up anyway, figuring out where everyone is after rule changes. Can leClerc beat Vettel. Will honda do the job? how quick is the hulk beside ricciardo? Are alfa going to jump to top of the mid field? Have McLaren got their act together? Will stroll be respectable beside checo and can kubica compete?
So plenty to keep us watching even if Hamilton runs away out front.

Charlie-Bravo

I like most four-wheel motorsports. F1 is pinnacle of all of them to me, but Indycar is more about the different drivers, the sheer speed they can do on ovals, and then Nascar is more a fun, wreck'em watch. If there was more rally-cross on TV I'd be delighted (still love joker laps).