Why is the Communist Party of Ireland unpopular?

Ubi feles est?

As above.

Also, why do they not field candidates at elections?

mosstin

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

As above.

Also, why do they not field candidates at elections?

It's a jealousy thing. They're too well Red.

mikemac2

They'd get a shotgun in the face if they tried to visit farms :eek:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

As above.

Also, why do they not field candidates at elections?

Answer the thread title and it's answers your supplementary question.



It's probably something to do with people wanting a decent standard of living, some basic rights to choose how they live their lives and a wish to enjoy a relatively free existence.

Ubi feles est?

They are a registered party, if they were to field candidates at elections they could get seats.

While in all likelihood they wouldn't get many seats, they could get some.

Would people vote for them? Why/why not?

Ubi feles est?

What I'm asking is if they were to field candidates at the next general election would they get seats? If not, why not?

TheValeyard

Cause communism is a load of sh*te.

Fighting Tao

The what party of Ireland? Never heard of them and I'm sure most haven't. Maybe if they did a bit of PR and told people who they are and how they will ruin our lives, they might get more support.

Pa8301

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Cause communism is a load of sh*te.

Off to the gulag for you, comrade.

TheValeyard

Pa8301 wrote: »

Off to the gulag for you, comrade.

Gulag closed down, not enough resources to fund it.

PopePalpatine

Too many splitters.

Mahony0509

I prefer the whole freedom, democracy and having the ability to make your own decisions thingy.

Insect Overlord

Keep asking the important questions, brother.

Pawwed Rig

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

Would people vote for them? Why/why not?

Sinn Fein and PBP soak up all the far left vote so there is no room for another party.

whisky_galore

Because capitalism, every cnut wants more stuff than all the other cnuts, and the reason why communism in its purest form never works.

Roger Hassenforder

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

They are a registered party, if they were to field candidates at elections they could get seats.

While in all likelihood they wouldn't get many seats, they could get some.

Would people vote for them? Why/why not?

Made a mistake once voting Green
Certainly wont be voting red.

Ubi feles est?

I'm not in support of it, but I'm just asking:

Could a Lenin-style revolution happen here to make Ireland a fully communist country?

Why/why not?

BTW I'm asking these questions out of mere curiosity.

Ubi feles est?

If the above were to happen, Ireland would become the first properly communist country in history.

Raheem Euro

Ruth Coppinger is a full on Trotskyite and she holds a seat.

Ubi feles est?

But COULD a Lenin-style revolution happen here?

Jimbob1977

The track record isn't too good....

Soviet Union

Warsaw Pact countries

Cambodia

China

Cuba

North Korea

Limerick

NewbridgeIR

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

Would people vote for them? Why/why not?

No
Reason - why would I vote for a party that hates me?

fiveleavesleft

A good party, great bookshop & they did the state some service (hate that phrase), no question. For all that I don't like to see them knocked.

Ubi feles est?

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

No
Reason - why would I vote for a party that hates me?

I'm just curious that why the party doesn't have any seats and if or why not a Lenin-style revolution would happen.

Duckworth_Luas

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I'm not in support of it, but I'm just asking:

Could a Lenin-style revolution happen here to make Ireland a fully communist country?

Why/why not?

BTW I'm asking these questions out of mere curiosity.

I hear Lennon and the Boylesheviks made great gains for the Roscommunist Party in the last local elections and now have a seat on the Tulsk UDC.

The revolution has begun!

italodisco

F#ck communism

Ubi feles est?

I am being serious. Could the equivalent of the Lenin-led Russian revolution happen here?

If not, why not?

Mad_maxx

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

As above.

Also, why do they not field candidates at elections?

Competition is fierce.

SF
PBP
Media

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I am being serious. Could the equivalent of the Lenin-led Russian revolution happen here?

If not, why not?

Ok.

No. Because only a very small minority see anything remotely attractive in the concept of communism.

Fighting Tao

Langston Nervous Rave wrote: »

Ok.

No. Because only a very small minority see anything remotely attractive in the concept of communism.

Be prepared for the “but why?”

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Be prepared for the “but why?”

True.


Because it's a proven failed ideology .

Ubi feles est?

I'm just asking about a Lenin-style revolution?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I'm just asking about a Lenin-style revolution?

Asked and answered already.



But you know that.

Raheem Euro

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I'm just curious that why the party doesn't have any seats and if or why not a Lenin-style revolution would happen.

Back in the early decades of the twrntieth century bolshevism was a significant political movement and force in industrial cities in Germany, France etc. Its support base was typically working class men in factories.

ROI was an agrarian ecomomy and society. The RCC who are a great enemy of communism was firmly rooted here at the time and was a strong influe ce on politics and ordinary peoples views.

Ubi feles est?

Langston Nervous Rave wrote: »

True.


Because it's a proven failed ideology .

There have been 0 communist states anywhere in history. If Ireland were to become one via revolution or vote we would be the first communist state, and would therefore have the capacity to improve on the ideology and set an example.

fiveleavesleft

Langston Nervous Rave wrote: »

Ok.

No. Because only a very small minority see anything remotely attractive in the concept of communism.

I dunno. When Fianna Fail were Communist, the louder CnaG/FG said the were, the more popular they became:D:D:D

Ubi feles est?

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I'm just asking about a Lenin-style revolution?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

There have been 0 communist states anywhere in history. If Ireland were to become one via revolution or vote we would be the first communist state, and would therefore have the capacity to improve on the ideology and set an example.

I'd be genuinely interested in how your definition of a Communist State differs from the accepted norm of " a state that is administered and governed by a single party, guided by Marxist-Leninist philosophy, with the aim of achieving communism."; of which there are several examples.

overshoot

whisky_galore wrote: »

Because capitalism, every cnut wants more stuff than all the other cnuts, and the reason why communism in its purest form never works.

I would have said it fails because a complete and utter waster gets as much as the person who works hard, or the menial job will get the same as the difficult highly skilled/pressured job. Therefore there is no incentive to work let alone to better yourself and if people dont grow, improve themselves, it follows the state wont.
In other words, communism, nice in principle... but forgets human nature...

Langston Nervous Rave

Langston Nervous Rave wrote: »

I'd be genuinely interested in how your definition of a Communist State differs from the accepted norm of " a state that is administered and governed by a single party, guided by Marxist-Leninist philosophy, with the aim of achieving communism."; of which there are several examples.

Well I'm pretty sure there are none at the moment that actually practice communism.

prinzeugen

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

As above.

Also, why do they not field candidates at elections?

They do.

Although they call themselves SF, PBP etc as its less scary sounding.

fiveleavesleft

overshoot wrote: »

I would have said it fails because a complete and utter waster gets as much as the person who works hard, or the menial job will get the same as the difficult highly skilled/pressured job. Therefore there is no incentive to work let alone to better yourself and if people dont grow, improve themselves, it follows the state wont.
In other words, communism, nice in principle... but forgets human nature...

Your behind the curve my friend, a little Deng Xiaoping thought will bring you up to speed. There's big changes coming.

Roger Hassenforder

Langston Nervous Rave wrote: »

I'd be genuinely interested in how your definition of a Communist State differs from the accepted norm of " a state that is administered and governed by a single party, guided by Marxist-Leninist philosophy, with the aim of achieving communism."; of which there are several examples.

Ah but thats not real communism
Or something

Edgware

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

What I'm asking is if they were to field candidates at the next general election would they get seats? If not, why not?

Maybe you should check out how successful they were when we could see how well the oul communism worked in Russia, Cuba, Albania etc

fiveleavesleft

Edgware wrote: »

Maybe you should check out how successful they were when we could see how well the oul communism worked in Russia, Cuba, Albania etc

Was that not at the same time as the Sticks became a mass party & gained seats in the Dail election after election. :P

DS86DS

Because Irish people have common sense.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

It’s a failed idealogy.

I’ve just watched a documentary about the illicit doping of underage East German athletes back in the days, all to show off to the world the might of Communism. Creepy as fück. Creepy things tend to put people off.

Sir Oxman

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I'm just curious that why the party doesn't have any seats and if or why not a Lenin-style revolution would happen.

Because when they did run they barely hit triple figures in the *two constituencies they ran in

*Maybe three, I can't remember

frosty123

we have SF to fill the marxist/communist void in this country

DS86DS

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It’s a failed idealogy.

I’ve just watched a documentary about the illicit doping of underage East German athletes back in the days, all to show off to the world the might of Communism. Creepy as fück. Creepy things tend to put people off.

Creepy, but not half as creepy as the documents and videos they found in the Stasi files. In East Germany under Communism, there was zero concept of privacy and freedom.

East Germany was the most Orwellian project in the history of the world. Thank God that Irish people have their heads screwed on when it comes to Communism......a victory for the Communist Party of Ireland is a snowball's chance in hell.

Daily life in a Communist state is straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

Interestingly, Angela Merkel was involved in the East Germany state during her younger years. Why this hasn't been investigated further I don't know.

The Tetrarch

Ubi feles est? wrote: »

I am being serious. Could the equivalent of the Lenin-led Russian revolution happen here?

If not, why not?

Go with the idea of free stuff, everyone equal, profit is bad, and you end up with the state employing four million people to make boring products.
And everyone is worse off.