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can 804 gravel be used to make concrete?

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  • 01-12-2018 4:45pm
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    Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭


    as above.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    No, its too "dirty" to make any kind of quality mix.
    You can buy bulk bags of "concrete mix" , but if you need any quantity (more than 5 or m2) its cheaper and far handier to just get ready-mix.


  • Registered Users Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    No, its too "dirty" to make any kind of quality mix.
    You can buy bulk bags of "concrete mix" , but if you need any quantity (more than 5 or m2) its cheaper and far handier to just get ready-mix.

    What do you ask for in the quarry if collecting with trailer to mix at home - is it ‘concrete mix’ ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,447 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    What do you ask for in the quarry if collecting with trailer to mix at home - is it ‘concrete mix’ ?

    It depends on the application

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    "Aggregate" or "gravel".


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Called batch around here, could be a local thing i dunno. A lot of fellas will deliver a ton bag of it for u.
    I got a ton into the trailer before in the local quarry, dunno how i didnt burn the clutch outta my car trying to get out of the quarry!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,579 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    How about lean mix, it’s all mixed up cement and all added, you just add water at home.
    Buy bulk or by trailer load from quarry.


  • Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭eamon11


    thanks lads,

    thing is I have half a load of 804 there already and need to get rid of it.

    It's for a foundation wall of 4 inch blocks. Wall will be approx 4 feet hign.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    eamon11 wrote: »
    thanks lads,

    thing is I have half a load of 804 there already and need to get rid of it.

    It's for a foundation wall of 4 inch blocks. Wall will be approx 4 feet hign.

    Cheers.

    I was in same position with 804 left over so I added cement, some sand and it worked out fine for me. Didn't use in any area where I needed guaranteed performance but as a footing for an isolated wall. Added rebar to foundation - had this left over also. Had a reason to break out some of it later. It was as hard as I would expect normal concrete to be.


  • Site Banned Posts: 518 ✭✭✭eamon11


    Thanks Rampart,

    appreciate your response.

    Was it really necessary to add sand? 804 is already very sandy. If adding anything I would have thought bigger chips would be better. Anyway good to know I can still possibly use it.

    Eamon


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,085 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    If you're trying to do something useful with the 804, just use is as compacted sub-base under the wall footings.

    You'll be left with a load of topsoil, but that's great stuff you can just spread around the garden., e.g. top dressing lawn, raised beds and so on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,579 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    eamon11 wrote: »
    thanks lads,

    thing is I have half a load of 804 there already and need to get rid of it.

    It's for a foundation wall of 4 inch blocks. Wall will be approx 4 feet hign.

    Cheers.

    It might work out fine, but you won’t know for sure till it’s done and on a while. Allot will depend on the ground under the foundation. A strip foundation is still only as strong as the ground under it.

    I don’t think I’d chance it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭rampantbunny


    eamon11 wrote: »
    Thanks Rampart,

    appreciate your response.

    Was it really necessary to add sand? 804 is already very sandy. If adding anything I would have thought bigger chips would be better. Anyway good to know I can still possibly use it.

    Eamon

    Depends. If you leave 804 sitting in the rain for a while the larger stones are left on the surface. A couple of weeks of shoveling and moving the 804 and again you may be left with more stone than small aggregate. So you need to gauge it yourself.
    I'm not a builder or professional of any kind in this field so those more in the know could rightly suggest using a 'proper' mix. I can only give you my experience. I poured a decent thickness of base on compacted 804 and put a 4" block wall on top without any problems to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭geographica


    could 804 be used to make concrete for an outdoor path? 3” deep on top of packed 804?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭monseiur


    804 is not suitable use gravel or aggregate, most builders providers stock 1 ton bags for small jobs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


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  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭geographica


    Nah I’m ok with the depth, very firm underneath



  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭geographica


    What could be the effect of using it as aggregate?



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