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Reselling unwanted baby stuff

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  • #32
    angeldelight
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    ted1 wrote: »
    In fairness to the RSA they are a joke of an agency. And I wouldn’t rate their advice. ( msybevits beacuse I’m a cyclists and they are particularly bad here )

    Look it a 500 Euro seat that swivels is handy and convenient but it’s no safer than a hundred euro seat that doesn’t.

    *providing they meet the same standards



    RSA don’t mention any brands in there documents

    It’s fitting and standards.

    http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Road%20Safety/Safety%20for%20kids/Child%20Safety%20in%20Cars%20English.pdf

    The people who work on the RSA Check it Fits campaign will recommend certain brands when speaking to them - and will recommend extended rear facing as it is a lot safer. A €500 ERF seat that has passed the Swedish Plus test IS a lot safer than a €100 car seat which hasn’t - it’s one area where you are actually paying for the extra safety features


  • #33
    ted1
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    angeldelight wrote: »
    The people who work on the RSA Check it Fits campaign will recommend certain brands when speaking to them - and will recommend extended rear facing as it is a lot safer. A €500 ERF seat that has passed the Swedish Plus test IS a lot safer than a €100 car seat which hasn’t - it’s one area where you are actually paying for the extra safety features
    And a 100 Euro that has passed it is safer than a 500 Euro that hasn’t. See where I’m going. Price means nothing.

    I don’t think the RSA check it fits staff are independent.


  • #34
    jlm29
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    ted1 wrote: »
    And a 100 Euro that has passed it is safer than a 500 Euro that hasn’t. See where I’m going. Price means nothing.

    I don’t think the RSA check it fits staff are independent.

    You will not find a €100 car seat that has passed the Swedish plus test. Sometimes price does mean something.


  • #35
    seannash
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    OmegaGene wrote: »
    100% agree
    At the ante natal class we had a rep from rsa and also someone from tony kealeys and they advised us on what seats were the safer options and explained why, it wasn’t just sales patter either

    Saw a ted talk a while back which showed a study that demonstrated that regular lap and shoulder seat belts are as safe and preventative as car seats for kids 2 and up.
    For kids below that yes, the car seat wins but I'd warrant no RSA instructor will tell you a seatbelt is just as safe as a car seat for your two year old.
    Just because they aren't salesman doesn't mean they aren't biased.


  • #36
    Fighting Tao
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    seannash wrote: »
    Saw a ted talk a while back which showed a study that demonstrated that regular lap and shoulder seat belts are as safe and preventative as car seats for kids 2 and up.
    For kids below that yes, the car seat wins but I'd warrant no RSA instructor will tell you a seatbelt is just as safe as a car seat for your two year old.
    Just because they aren't salesman doesn't mean they aren't biased.

    It sounds easy to keep 2 year olds in standard seatbelts rather than 5 point. I can’t wait to try it!


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  • #37
    angeldelight
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    Also they would be way too short - the shoulder strap would be more likely to decapitate the child than stop them safely in a collision


  • #38
    seannash
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    angeldelight wrote: »
    Also they would be way too short - the shoulder strap would be more likely to decapitate the child than stop them safely in a collision

    Not according to the data

    https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_levitt_on_child_carseats/up-next?language=en

    Now am I going to use a car seat for my child, absolutely but it does show you that sometimes we don't get all the information.


  • #39
    angeldelight
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    https://thecarseatlady.com/freakonomics-fallacy-an-economist-or-a-pediatrician-who-would-you-trust-to-keep-your-child-safe/

    It seems their data wasn’t so robust when you dig a little...


  • #40
    jlm29
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    This is totally derailing the thread, sorry OP. That one study is 13 years old. There’s lots done since that tell us that our children are safer in car seats- especially rear facing car seats until they’re at least 4 y.o. After that age, they’re no safer in a forward facing harnessed seat than they would be in a high backed booster with a three point safety belt.
    I’m Sweden, for example, it’s actually illegal to forward face a child before they turn four, and remarkably few Swedish children have died in RTAs in the last 30 years (I think it’s one, but I stand to be corrected on that)


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