Donald Trump presidency discussion thread V

SeamusFX

eagle eye wrote: »

What has that got to do with making up stuff and telling lies to make Trump look worse?
My point is you go down in the trenches it's likely you lose. Keep yourself at a higher level and he is the only one that is stinking the joint up.

I haven’t seen many examples of people making things up to make Trump look bad, he dies such a good job himself, making things up isn’t necessary. However, there are a plethora of examples where people have accused Trump of things he actually said and did and despite documented and even video evidence, Trump and his minions have denied it and claimed the accusers were lying and called it Fake News. Don’t fall into the trap and believe Trump, because in most cases where Trump accuses an opponent of lying, more than likely, it’s Trump that’s lying!

Trump arrives on British soil, and immediately launches a broadside against Sadiq Khan dubbing him a "stone cold loser". More pertinent however, to certain members of the media, is his 'new hairstyle'. The debasement of discourse continues apace.

eagle eye

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Trump arrives on British soil, and immediately launches a broadside against Sadiq Khan dubbing him a "stone cold loser". More pertinent however, to certain members of the media, is his 'new hairstyle'. The debasement of discourse continues apace.

Ugh, that will make Khan more popular, Sad day.

Brian?

eagle eye wrote: »

Lots of people who are anti-Trump. Trump loves this because he can prove there is fake news and throw more lies out there.


As above, if you make up lies you are just as bad as him. It's also only helping him.
Stay strong but honourable, wait until he shoots himself badly and then ride in on your high horse and take over the place.

I haven’t actually seen anyone make up lies about Trump though. He calls people liars for quoting him. It’s bizarre.

Beechwoodspark

I know trump is obsessed with optics and appearances

Going by the footage of him coming down the steps of the plane in London id rank him bottom of the list of all presidents since jfk in terms of appearance.

He doesn’t look even slightly presidential.

Igotadose

One of the plagues of Trump, his endless lying, is when you get rumors like this one, where his Admin is thinking of placing tariff's on Australian aluminium. It's being denied, so... is the rumor the lie, or the denial the lie?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446565-trump-admin-considered-placing-tariffs-on-australia-report

I vote that the denial's a lie. Imagine being the Australian PM this morning waking up to this rumor. Feud with the US, just what they need.

Let alone the 'social media presence' requirements for a Visa. If there were a way to fund the ACLU's suit against such, it'd be worth contributing to. What a blatantly stupid idea, big brotherism to a fair thee well, and imagine personal stuff in the hands of bumbling US beauracracy. Terrifying.

aloyisious

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Trump arrives on British soil, and immediately launches a broadside against Sadiq Khan dubbing him a "stone cold loser". More pertinent however, to certain members of the media, is his 'new hairstyle'. The debasement of discourse continues apace.

At this stage, I believe its best to treat tweets coming from Don's twitter account as trolling and don't react the way the sender wants, don't even react at all. Hopefully the media would do the same and sicken his chops.

aloyisious

Igotadose wrote: »

One of the plagues of Trump, his endless lying, is when you get rumors like this one, where his Admin is thinking of placing tariff's on Australian aluminium. It's being denied, so... is the rumor the lie, or the denial the lie?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446565-trump-admin-considered-placing-tariffs-on-australia-report

I vote that the denial's a lie. Imagine being the Australian PM this morning waking up to this rumor. Feud with the US, just what they need.

Let alone the 'social media presence' requirements for a Visa. If there were a way to fund the ACLU's suit against such, it'd be worth contributing to. What a blatantly stupid idea, big brotherism to a fair thee well, and imagine personal stuff in the hands of bumbling US beauracracy. Terrifying.

Time for a two-prong response to Don & Co. one public through media and steel-trade buddies that Oz has no quarrel with the US steel industry/doesn't want one - and one privately to Don's NSA; that if the US wants co-operation at a military and intelligence level against terrorism, its bad policy to attack ones allies.

Igotadose

aloyisious wrote: »

Time for a two-prong response to Don & Co. one public through media and steel-trade buddies that Oz has no quarrel with the US steel industry/doesn't want one - and one privately to Don's NSA; that if the US wants co-operation at a military and intelligence level against terrorism, its bad policy to attack ones allies.

Probably won't matter in today's government-by-impulse-and-tweet. Though, I believe the new Australian PM is right-wing so that might appeal to Trumpy. I could be wrong about the Australian PM, his winning was somewhat controversial as I recall, but Australia's always been pretty wild, politically.

Christy42

It is amusing how much he rails against those who want him to be PC and then goes to pieces whenever anyone says anything mean against him

I don't get how those who give out about snowflakes can't see he is the ultimate snowflake. I guess everyone is fine with "telling it like it is" when talking about others but do a quick u-turn back to political correctness when they are being targeted.

Still the UK is in no position to argue (at least the Tories). They know they could well be over a barrel in the next year or two.

pixelburp

Looking beneath the fold, so to speak, at American comments sections on reporting of Trump's asinine spat with Khan reveals the motives behind it, plain as day. As with similar attacks on Rep. Omar in Congress, Khan is Muslim and there's little the right of centre in the US will get behind quicker than some anti Muslim rhetoric. It's playing to his base and it's worth remembering that the only time the EU appears in certain news demographics is over a terrorist attack. Hannity, Ingram et al love nothing more than presenting EU countries as chaotic hellholes where socialists, criminals and Muslims roam free.

The kneejerk prejudice is so strong a poll can ask about banning the teaching "Arabic numerals" in schools and receive a majority support. It's a bit more subtle than that but the inference is clear. Anything Islamic or Arabic sounding === cue the 2 minute hate.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/teaching-arabic-numerals/

Itssoeasy

Well the formal part of his arrival in the U.K. Seemed to go off well enough.

looksee

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well the formal part of his arrival in the U.K. Seemed to go off well enough.

What is astonishing/dismaying is that this is worthy of comment.

Itssoeasy

looksee wrote: »

What is astonishing/dismaying is that this is worthy of comment.

Yeah I know but it didn't seem awkward although the British royal family are playing senior hurling when it comes to this state visit stuff.

Itssoeasy

Just watching the royal family showing the family silver to the American lads it’s clear it’s not the queens first picnic as they say. It seems that he’s going to visit Westminster abbey soon which I’m not sure trump will appreciate or understand the history of that building.

ancapailldorcha

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Timberrrrrrrr

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Just watching the royal family showing the family silver to the American lads it’s clear it’s not the queens first picnic as they say. It seems that he’s going to visit Westminster abbey soon which I’m not sure trump will appreciate or understand the history of that building.

Bit of a snub to Trump to have a minor royal like Andrew escorting him.

Itssoeasy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Bit of a snub to Trump to have a minor royal like Andrew escorting him.

Is he a minor royal ? He's the son of the reigning monarch. And let's be fair she might be a monarch but she is at the end of the day 93 year old woman. And the usual person the duke of Edinburgh isn't there so the kids need to stand up.

robinph

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Is he a minor royal ? He's the son of the reigning monarch. And let's be fair she might be a monarch but she is at the end of the day 93 year old woman. And the usual person the duke of Edinburgh isn't there so the kids need to stand up.

Well he's only ever going down in the rankings. Despite starting life as number 2 he's currently ranked number 8. He might have a brief jump back up the table, but any more kids from William or Harry and he's back down the list again.

He's not really "minor", but his purpose expired once William and Harry were born.

Itssoeasy

robinph wrote: »

Well he's only ever going down in the rankings. Despite starting life as number 2 he's currently ranked number 8. He might have a brief jump back up the table, but any more kids from William or Harry and he's back down the list again.

He's not really "minor", but his purpose expired once William and Harry were born.

Well all of the queens children were going to be playing second fiddle to the children of the heir to the throne came along.

Igotadose

robinph wrote: »

Well he's only ever going down in the rankings. Despite starting life as number 2 he's currently ranked number 8. He might have a brief jump back up the table, but any more kids from William or Harry and he's back down the list again.

He's not really "minor", but his purpose expired once William and Harry were born.

And Randy Andy's Trumps budwan from Orgy Island days with Jeffrey Epstein.

(allegedly, of course.) https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-did-trump-and-clinton-pal-jeffrey-epstein-escape-metoo

Same Epstein that Trump's SecLabor worked to get a lightweight sentence, too:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/06/alex-acosta-jeffrey-epstein-plea-deal-1206753

Itssoeasy

I know it’s a poor reflection when you have to point this out but it seems to be going well so far. I’d say his team are slightly worried what he might say at the state banquet tonight. IF he sticks to the script tonight literally and as much as he can sound statesman like and it comes off well then Trump could use it to his advantage. I think he just might for the night that’s in it.

Beechwoodspark

Embarrassing seeing American reporters excuse him - “We are used to this now”.

Itssoeasy

It seems Donald Trump will be on what is his best behaviour as listening to sky news earlier he seems to have huge respect for the queen. I don't know where that stems from but it might help tonight's proceedings not be a cluster.

jochenstacker

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It seems Donald Trump will be on what is his best behaviour as listening to sky news earlier he seems to have huge respect for the queen. I don't know where that stems from but it might help tonight's proceedings not be a cluster.

If he gets chatting to Prince Philip all bets are off.

Itssoeasy

jochenstacker wrote: »

If he gets chatting to Prince Philip all bets are off.

Will prince Phillip be there ?

Beechwoodspark

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Will prince Phillip be there ?

No sign so far

1hnr79jr65

Regardless how he is behaving while visiting the royals, soon as he leaves he will return to usual programming.

He is more 2 faced than Harvey Dent, part of me wishes this clown was assassinated or pushed out of Airforce1 mid flight as he is creating political & financial turmoil across the globe.

Stop moaning ffs

He’s not anything like his tweets or his rants at rallies. He knows how to comport himself in company and occasions like this.
The outlier being when he has his private unrecorded meetings with Putin, where he’s embarrassingly and tellingly meek

pixelburp

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

He’s not anything like his tweets or his rants at rallies. He knows how to comport himself in company and occasions like this.
The outlier being when he has his private unrecorded meetings with Putin, where he’s embarrassingly and tellingly meek

I dunno, just off the top of my head, the last visit he stepped in front of the queen in an embarrassing faux Pas, while there was that big meet of NATO heads where he barged past & through the president of Estonia (I think) to get to the front. I'm sure there are others; he's utterly two faced, happy to shoot at Megan Markel or Mayor Khan from the sidelines but still struggles to comport himself in public